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Georgia Albert - 01:49pm Dec 6, 1998 MST (1)

I have been researching the demise of the goddess. I have realized that the game of chess made the queen, or Goddess, the most powerful piece on the board. She can move freely and be ressurected. The patriarchal religions did not like the idea of the Goddess having so much power, so the game was banned for many years by the Catholic church. I have read that the reason for the ban was because the chess game promoted war. I do not believe this. I believe the reason for the ban was because chess was the game of the Goddess.

Ron Adams - 02:53pm Dec 6, 1998 MST (#2 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Hi Georgia. I like your comments. I like Chess. Did you ever read the fiction book called "The Eight"? It is about a search by two women for Emperor Charlemagne's Chess Set, which was suppose to contain magickal qualities. He was Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire 800-814 A.D. He was called Charles the Great. I am sure he was aware of the Goddess lineage. The Rosicrucians use to call the Tarot Trump II the Great Whore, it is traditionally called the Priestess. They were making fun of the Catholic Church becomming the Antichrist. Of course they were persecuted by the Church.
Peace
SunWolf


Georgia Albert - 02:58pm Dec 7, 1998 MST (#3 of 672)

Hi Ron, thank you for the information. I was hoping you would know the name of the author of"The Eight", I would like to read it. The research I have been doing has taken me to 200 C.E. when the writings relating to the Goddess were being destroyed systematically. Did you know that the Ptolemies and the Roman emperors Augustus, Tiberius, Trajan, Hadrian, Antoninus and Lucius Virus built temples to the Virgin in the chapel of Isis. Much of the true history of the goddess has been destroyed by the hands of Christians. I have found that the Library at Alexandria which was destroyed by the Christians has be under excavation resently. I hope that they can recover the true history and restore it to the people of the world. Thank you again. I appriciate and information to can get on the Goddess. May the Hand of the Goddess always be with you. G.


Mark Borcherding - 05:19am Dec 10, 1998 MST (#4 of 672)
dare to dream upon your own star

When I read the posts here I did the same thing I normally do ... confer with number and look what I found :)

C H E S S converted to number is 3 8 5 1 1

3+8+5+1+1 = 18

L O V E converted to number is 3 6 4 5

3+6+4+5 = 18

Number seems to agree that Chess is a game where the power of the Goddess "love" is present. The king is basically just another pawn. The Queen has diversity she flows in any direction.

mARK 188

Ron Adams - 01:05pm Dec 10, 1998 MST (#5 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Well Mark, Numbers it is. I pulled out my chess board.
Each side has 16 pieces, that 2 pieces of 8.
There are 8 x 8 squares on a chess board = 64.
There are 8 pawns for each side, total of 16.
If you add Mark's statement that the King is nothing but a pawn, then there are 9 on each side, a total of 18. There's that Love number. By the way Mark, you keep using this number 18, did your realize that the 18th Tarot Trump is the Moon, the symbol of the Goddess and represents Mystery?
There are two Queens who can flow any direction.
There are 2 Rooks (Castles) on each side, a total of 4, the 4 elements, Earth, Air, Fire and Water.
There are also 2 Knights (Horses) too, a total of 4, again the 4 elements.
And finally there are 2 Bishops, a total of 4, again the elements. 444 = 12.
Play with those number!
Peace,
Sunwolf


Georgia Albert - 03:08pm Dec 10, 1998 MST (#6 of 672)

How many times can the queen be resurrected?

Prrrrrrr

G

May the Hand of the Goddess always be with you.


Ron Adams - 04:16pm Dec 10, 1998 MST (#7 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Great Question Georgia. Technically it is possible to ressurect your Queen and get the piece back with all pieces except the Queen and the King. So this make 28 times the Queen could be ressurected. Interesting that Pisces is the only month left with the Sacred 28 days, the cycle of the Moon (29.5) and the cycle of the Female (28). This of course is also the number of days in a Mayan Moon.


Mark Borcherding - 10:20pm Dec 10, 1998 MST (#8 of 672)
dare to dream upon your own star

However, the Queen cannot move as does the kNight. Only the kNight can make a 90 degree turn while in motion. Put a kNight on the Telektonon board and see what it does.

I thought only the pawns could become queens and thus you would have 16 pawns + 1 queen thus 17 queens would be the maximum. Just as there would be 16 pawns + 1 King (pawn) in the beginning.


Georgia Albert - 06:34am Dec 11, 1998 MST (#9 of 672)

Could the castles have been obelisks?

If the castles where origanally obelisks,rocks.mountains or whatever, what would the Knights and the Bishops origanally have been?

It is hidden well.

G

May the Hand of the Goddess always be with you.

Mark Borcherding - 08:26am Dec 11, 1998 MST (#10 of 672)
dare to dream upon your own star

Ref #9

Yes the castles could have been obelisks towers of heaven which the maiden (goddess) maybe held within.

kNights could very well relate to the Knights of Templar or (Roundtable).

The bishop could be a magician or a church type depending on how you look at it.

A few years ago I looked at expanding the game of Chess and was going to add the "Dragon" and "Moat" along with 4 extra pawns.

May the spirit and beauty of the Goddess be with All.


Georgia Albert - 06:27am Dec 12, 1998 MST (#11 of 672)

REF. #6

The gueen has 9 lives. Cats also have 9 lives. In Egypt the cat was held very sacred. If you remember your history, during the dark ages cats were killed off in mass. Plague followed. Interesting.

G

May the Hand of the Goddess always be with you.


Ron Adams - 12:10pm Dec 12, 1998 MST (#12 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Yes, Georgia, the Queen does indeed have Nine lives, 8 Pawns and 1 Queen. The Cat has 9 lives. They say a stitch in time, saves 9. Next year is 1999. What are they really saying?
Your move!
SunWolf


Georgia Albert - 02:16pm Dec 15, 1998 MST (#13 of 672)

In the world we have the queen of England. What does that make the Pope, a King or a queen or maybe a Bishop?

G

May the Hand of the Goddess always be with you.


Mark Borcherding - 11:16pm Dec 15, 1998 MST (#14 of 672)
dare to dream upon your own star

Ref 13

P o p e

P a w n

However each piece in the chess game is needed and when working together they form a powerful team. The best chess players use all pieces in harmony to win. This includes using the opposing sides pieces as well.

May the spirit and beauty of the Goddess be with All.


Ron Adams - 07:24am Dec 18, 1998 MST (#15 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

The Queen is back. Resurrected. Tho this isn't check mate yet. Your move.
I say that the Pope is the Bishop
Feldsparq.


Georgia Albert - 11:08am Dec 18, 1998 MST (#16 of 672)

Ref.# 13

I was thinking the pope might be trying to be a Queen.

Ron maybe the pope wears alot of blue.

G

May the Hand of the Goddess always be with you.


Ron Adams - 02:31pm Dec 18, 1998 MST (#17 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Well you know there is evidence that they switched colors of males and females, to usurp the power of the Goddess. Blue is Nuit's color, color of Nu, Space, the Dark Sky Blue Yonder. It is the mystery.

The male powers that be took this into words like "blue-blood", "blue moon" (there are 13 full moons in one solar year), and "blue eyes" of the Aryan man. They'd rather had people looking into the blue eyes, blonde haired male who can manipulate and mind control, than wondering into the deep vastness of space.
Tell me what you think about that Georgia?


Mark Borcherding - 02:56pm Dec 18, 1998 MST (#18 of 672)
dare to dream upon your own star

What piece in the Game of Chess is not a piece but yet is?


Ron Adams - 07:39pm Dec 18, 1998 MST (#19 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Mark, I believe it is the Board.


Mark Borcherding - 03:35am Dec 21, 1998 MST (#20 of 672)
dare to dream upon your own star

Ref 18 & 19,

There is the board and the two players.

One player is black the other white (ying, yang)

The board is the stage, world, or universe.


Jan Newton - 10:23am Dec 22, 1998 MST (#21 of 672)

Georgia re Post 3, Katherine (Katharine?) Neville wrote "The Eight". Great novel. Ron re Post 17, I thought it was red (originally purple) that was pre-empted from the female, red being the color of the primal flow, etc. Too much power for us poor lowly souls - it scared a lot of men half to death that we (meaning females) have the creative power (this obviously disregards that it takes two, of course, to make life, not just one), not to mention that red is the color of blood, in which the ancients believed the life force flowed.


Georgia Albert - 12:22pm Dec 23, 1998 MST (#22 of 672)

Ref. #21

Jan,

The color is violet. It is a high frequency color, just like blue. The high frequency colors are the feminine colors. The low frequency colors and masculine, such as red.

It is hidden well my friend

G

May the hand of the Goddess always be with you.


Ron Adams - 12:55pm Dec 23, 1998 MST (#23 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Interesting that the word "Patriarchy" has a numerology of 334, in RA's English Kabala. It resonates with "Turqoise" = 333 and "Passion" = 335.
"Matriarchy" is 351. It resonates with "Surrender" = 353, "Strength" = 354, and "together" = 357.
Interesting that 351 - 334 = 17, the number of the Star. Interesting that both "Purple" and "Violet" = 290. This resonates with the words "Moon" = 289 and "Gay Shadow" = 290 also.
Happy Holidays.


Georgia Albert - 12:24pm Dec 24, 1998 MST (#24 of 672)

Could it be possible that a priamid and sphynx are hidden within the game of Chess?

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.


Ron Adams - 08:35pm Dec 25, 1998 MST (#25 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Well, Georgia, you ask a very good question there. There is a sphinx, if you look at all the pieces, we have males, females, and animals. On each side we have 16 pieces, that's a total of 32. There are 64 squares.
64 divided by 3 = 21.333.
32 - 21.333 = 10.667.
32 divided by 3 = 10.666
666 is the Number of the Beast in the Book of Revelations. It adds up to the number 18, which is the numerology of the word "Love".
Looking at our history of the way we rank men, women, animals and nature says a lot about our current world condition. Maybe pyramids were left hidden in the Chess set to symbolize an awakening. The triangle is also the delta, which can represent the female genetalia.
Seems like even tho we have 2 sides, there seems to be a 3rd side hidden in the game? Any clues?


Georgia Albert - 05:29am Dec 26, 1998 MST (#26 of 672)

Ref.# 25

WOW,

666 = LOVE

It seems everything is upsidedown and backwards.

What does 999 =?

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be With You.


Georgia Albert - 01:34pm Dec 27, 1998 MST (#27 of 672)

Jan

Ron

I just started the book "The Eight", so far very interesting.

I am sure I will have some more questions, soon.

Thank you both,

Georgia

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.


Jan Newton - 02:15am Dec 28, 1998 MST (#28 of 672)

Ron, my numerology is admittedly rusty, but how does 666 equal love? When I add up the letter/number values I come up with 5 for love, and 5 for hate (14 or 1 plus 4 equals 5 for each). Also, not to get into a religious discussion, but I find it hard to believe that the number (or mark) of the Beast would equate to love. The Beast is everything antithetical to it. Georgia, there is a third meaning, and possibly many more, in the game, which is something The Eight speaks to, involving (on one level) a mathematical/chemical formula. I won't say more for fear of giving away the climax of the book. Good reading!


Ron Adams - 01:25pm Dec 28, 1998 MST (#29 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Jan according to Pythagoran numerology:
L = 3, O = 6, V = 4, and E = 5
3 + 6 + 4 + 5 = 18
6 + 6 + 6 = 18
18 is also the Tarot card for the Moon.
John the Revelator was a Kabalist too. He knew the mystical meanings of words and numbers. When the male patriarchy took over, then ranked beasts and women and children under themselves, this set up the old paradigm and heirarchy of power. I think that there is more than one meaning here. Because of the ego of males we have all but destroyed the environment, and abused women's rights. This is part of the story here in this thread, about how the Goddess religion was hidden in the game of chess. Look at the pieces, the faces of the sphinx, the 4 beasts: Lion, Eagle, Bull, and Human (Woman) in the Book of Revelations are actually the Zodiac signs of Leo, Aquarius, Taurus and Scorpio.


Georgia Albert - 01:29pm Dec 28, 1998 MST (#30 of 672)

Ref # 8

Mark,

There are 16 pawns and 2 kings which equals 18, not 17. LOVE There are 16 pawns and 2 queens, 18, LOVE.

The meek shall inherit the earth. I wonder if the origin of this saying comes from the pawns in the game of Chess.

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.


Jan Newton - 01:54am Dec 29, 1998 MST (#31 of 672)

Ron, you are right. I had laid out my number/alphabet chart wrong by including the cipher (0) and that threw the values off (it has been a long time). The value for love is 18, but it also is 1 plus 8 or 9, which is the end of the 9 number cycle and means completions and endings. The triple 6 in "666" in biblical numerology terms means gross imperfection; 7 and 12 are "perfect" numbers in the Bible and 6 represents missing the mark; a triple 6 would mean, as I said, gross imperfection. Add up the 18 value for "666" as 1 plus 8 and that also equals 9. Thus, I think John was pointing to the grossly depraved state that mankind would be in at the time of "the end". I'm confused about your tying the four beasts in Revelation to four signs of the Zodiac. In the context of Revelation, what purpose would that serve? Revelation isn't about a battle between the religion of the male versus the religion of the female god. I agree there are probably hidden meanings in the game of chess. Unfortunately, I'm the merest novice at the game, and never could learn to strategize, so although I greatly admire those who can play the game with elan and skill, I'm probably missing the deeper elements. I'd be a very poor goddess! Although the number value of "Jan" is 7, the number value of my true name, "Janet", is 5. That should tell you all you need to know about where I'm coming from! Georgia, that scripture would very aptly apply to the pawns of the game and the larger game in the world. Interesting to note that it first arose in, I believe, Psalm 34, during the heyday of the Hebrew kingdom, and showed up again in the Sermon on the Mount by Jesus (Ch. 7 Matthew) almost a thousand years later.


Ron Adams - 11:53am Dec 29, 1998 MST (#32 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Jan: the whole Bible is about "Male Patriarchal" God sending his messengers to destroy pagan "Goddess" idols. You don't think the supression of women by the Western World is part of this. I really don't want to get into a religious debate, I respect your religious views. Semantics is a problem, because spiritually I think both the goddess and the god can co-exist. In the Bible 7 is sacred, 7 days of creation, 7 candles in book of Revelations. But did you know in the Tarot that 7 is the oddball, Futility (7 Swords), Failure (7 of Disks), Illusion (7 Cups), and Valour (7 Wands) and the Chariot (Seventh Trump). The Sixes in the Kabala and Tarot mean "groundedness". Love (Sixth Trump), Happiness (6 Cups), Success (6 Disks), Science (6 Swords), and Victory (6 Wands). The Star of David is also a six-pointed star.


I think that the depraved state of the world is because of the way the Male Domination ranks things in order of good or bad, with men on the top of the list, women and children under them, nature and the planet at the bottom of the list. When you have no respect for Mother Nature you are destroying your own nest.
Perhaps the Goddess religion had time to hide its secrets in Chess, Tarot, Numerology and other forms of divination. And also that a lot of people find "divination" works for them in nature, amongst rocks, brooks, meadows, fields, forests, etc. The four beasts in the Book of Revelations represent the 4 Zodiac signs that are traditionally used in Alchemy. That is why I say that John was an alchemist and kabalist. There are some deep secrets to this, and I won't reveal the key here, but if you look at the Chariot card, the Seventh trump in Crowley's tarot deck, you will see these symbols of these kerubs, four beasts. It has a lot to do with will power and motivation. What is guiding our evolution. Why of all the creatures of God, has mankind been given the free will to say no. Even the angels cannot say no to God. Some stories say that this is why the Luciferian rebellion occured, because God gave Mankind free will choice and Satan felt he deserved it as well.
Also why does the Knight move in a pattern of three, usually a 45 degree angle? Wouldn't a head on attack be more efficient?
Peace,
Ra


Georgia Albert - 02:42pm Dec 29, 1998 MST (#33 of 672)

Does anyone have any ideas of how we can get information about Chess from the vatican archieves. They have locked away the truth for too long.

The only other place would be The Library at Alexandria. Scientists are excavating it now as we speak. I hope they do not hide away what they find, like they have in the past.

Out of two you get one. The two together produce off spring. It is a thought.

LOVE PEACE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess always be You.


Jan Newton - 03:55am Dec 30, 1998 MST (#34 of 672)

Georgia, sorry, no clues about how to get access to the Vatican Archives. I don't know if this is correct, but I believe I read somewhere that they're not open to the general public but only to scholars, and so my guess is you'd have to be affiliated as a researcher or something with a university. About the library as Alexandria, weren't all the books/scrolls destroyed and/or carried off before the building was torched? I understand the ruins are now underwater, so it doesn't seem anything other than stone would have survived. Hope you're enjoying The Eight. Ron, you're into stuff far too heavy for me. I don't know the Kabbala, Tarot or the myriad legends that exist with respect to (no doubt) everything under the sun! Don't know why the Knight doesn't move in a straight line. Is it a riddle? As to John being an alchemist and a Kabbalist, I'd not heard this. What is your source for your statement that Satan and the angels don't have free will? If they didn't have free will, how could there have been a rebellion? They would have only been obedient robots wouldn't they? You're right about the present messed-up state of the world. Mankind's priorities are totally screwed up. Can this be attributed to a patriarchal society? Maybe. I'm more inclined to attribute it to "The Fall" (which was blamed on poor naive Eve). What kind of knowledge do you think might be hidden within the game of Chess?


Ron Adams - 11:34am Dec 30, 1998 MST (#35 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Jan, my statement about the Angels not needing to have free-will since their will is to serve God's will was a reference found in the book The Messengers by G.W.Hardin and Julia Ingram. This is why Satan rebelled and chose free will. He had to take it, it was given to humans by God as part of the great experiment of creation. If you read the whole thread you will see some of the knowledge we have talked about hidden in the game of chess.

Georgia, now the Vat again! That is probably testosterone talking, perhaps they don't have any secrets there. You could try remote viewing, but I think that the forests and the trees can tell you more, since there are no more secrets in this New Age.

As far as the Fall, and blaming women, I think that is a patriarchal trick. Women are the same as men, and can learn just as much if not more. Tarot and Kabala are extremely easy.


Georgia Albert - 04:52pm Dec 30, 1998 MST (#36 of 672)

Ref: #34

Jan, yes the Library is underwater, and so is Cleopatra's Palace. The lower levels or basements survived the christian destruction of the Library. What the archeaologists are hoping for, is that the clay tablets have survived. The archeaologists are doing the underwater excavations now. They have found Caesarius's Palace, not far from the underwater site. Caesanius was Cleopatras son by Caesar. Cleopatra's Palace was also known as the Temple of Isis.

LOVE

G

May The Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.


Ron Adams - 08:24pm Dec 30, 1998 MST (#37 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Georgia, they resently found Ptolemy 7's Temple to Isis, way up in the Delta. He was Cleopatra's Father. I wonder if clay tablets will be preserved in water? I hope they reveal the contents of this. Actually Mark sent me the url about this discovery. I will look it up and email it to you.


Mark Borcherding - 10:58pm Dec 30, 1998 MST (#38 of 672)
dare to dream upon your own star

Ref 30 - Georgia you are correct.

However, once a King wins then all 16 pawns are under that kingdom.

16 pawns + 1 king = 17 + 1 queen = 18

32 pieces + 1 board = 33

32 pieces + 1 board + 2 players = 35

Ref 34 The Knight makes a 90 degree turn

Knights of Templar ... wonder what they did with 90 degrees? I know there was use of 72 degrees of the pentagram to layout their religious patterns. 90 - 72 = 18 there is our 18 again :)

Some other numerology of Chess:

64 squares - the number of I-ching but wait we must add the one big square "the board"

64 + 1 = 65

32 light squares + 32 dark squares

16 light pieces + 16 dark pieces

1 light player + 1 dark player

49 light + 49 dark = 98 = 9+8 = 17

but now we add the one big square "board" again:

49 + 49 + 1 = 99 = 9+9 = 18

Love = 18


Georgia Albert - 03:02pm Dec 31, 1998 MST (#39 of 672)

The Knight moves 2 up and 1 over. The Knight is tracing a triangle with a hypotonus of 3, a 123 triangle. Use the magic square technic and you get 123 + 231 + 312 = 666 = 18 = LOVE.

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.


Georgia Albert - 10:49am Jan 3, 1999 MST (#40 of 672)

The outer perimeter of the Chess board has 28 squares. Are there any more 28's to be found in the game? Are there any 13's in the game?

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with you.


Jan Newton - 04:23am Jan 5, 1999 MST (#41 of 672)

Georgia, I don't have a chess board in front of me right now, so I can't count them, but if a board has 64 squares total, and is square, wouldn't that make it 8 (side) x 8 (side) = 64; so the perimeter would be 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 = 32, right?


Georgia Albert - 07:15am Jan 5, 1999 MST (#42 of 672)

The way to count the perimiter of the Chess board is 7 squares on each side 7+7+7+7=28. Jan, the way you were counting you were counting the corners twice. The lunar calander has 13 months of 28 days each, and each month has four weeks with 7 days each.

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.


Ron Adams - 01:00pm Jan 5, 1999 MST (#43 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Hey Women, did you know when you go inward to the next level and count the chess board, 5 by 5, by 5, by 5, you get 20. There are 20 Mayan glyphs and 20 Egyptian Deities in both of their Cosmologies. And ain't it strange that the Egyptian god and goddess relate to the Mayan?

The Next level in the board is 4, by 4, by 4, which equals 12.

And at the center is the 4 directions, the 4 sphinx, the 4 signs of the Zodiac. Now we have a key!

Ratio:
7:5:4:4.

This equals 20. (Again).

64 divided by 20 = 3.2 [Very important ratio].

Square root of 3.2 = 1.7888544. Lambda, the golden section is 1.619 roughly. That is a
difference of 0.17. Introducing the fractals. Fractals are very imporant to the Spiritual, Goddess aspect of this formula.

One last piece of information (because I can't put all the pieces of 8 together for you): Imagine at the center of the board you have at the top left, one white square representing Aquarius (female to male), Creative Intellect, the next black square, top right, Orphecus the Whale (not Scorpio, because Orphecus is the missing 13th Zodiac taken out when the Goddess fell. It is in direct alignment with the Galactic Center, 26 degrees Sagitarrius)represents record keeping (male to female).

We have the reversed pattern in the final two, left bottom black square is Taurus the Bull (female to male)boundaries and nurturing, and the last right white square Leo the Lion, (male to female)courage, strength. Look at each, and their relationship to one another. I think that when you asked where the 13 were, I find that it is in the lost Zodiac. Remember this reverse pattern symbolizes the DNA, as our galactic ancestors knew of this too. Any other patterns?

Peace
Sun Wolf


Mark Borcherding - 09:33pm Jan 5, 1999 MST (#44 of 672)
dare to dream upon your own star

Ref 41 thru 43 , If we look at the sides moving inward we see the pattern:

7+7+7+7 = 28

5+5+5+5 = 20

3+3+3+3 = 12

1+1+1+1 = 4

notice that if you do a numeric reduction on 28,20,12,4 that you get 1,2,3,4

If you look at the 28 as the castle wall then 20+12+4 = 36 and 36 = 18 + 18

notice the pattern 7 5 3 1 these are the centers of tone systems and 7 is the center of the Mayan tone system:

-1-

1 2 -3- 4 5

1 2 3 4 -5- 6 7 8 9

1 2 3 4 5 6 -7- 8 9 10 11 12 13 (mayan)

what would the next ring on the chess board be if you added it to the outer edge?

9+9+9+9 = 36

hmmmm... theres that 36 again and the tone system would be

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 -9- 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17

thus we would now have 9,7,5,3,1 as the tone center sequence the sum of which is 25.

We would now have 64 + 36 = 100 squares

In Mayan we would write 100 like this:

===== 100 (5x20) "Overtone"

-0- 0 (no ones) "Sun" or Ahau

May the Heart of the Goddess, Child, and God be with All

:: Foton Fonon (mark)


Georgia Albert - 02:26am Jan 6, 1999 MST (#45 of 672)

Rook

A European crow that often nests in treees near buildings.

A person who cheats at cards and dice.

One of the pieces with which the game of chess is played; castle.

Old French, roc < Arabic rukhkh.

Roc

A legendary bird having enormous size and strength, and able to carry off huge animals, famous in such Arabian tales as Sinbad.

I know that the crow is one of the smartest birds there is. It is also a very important bird in many cultures.

What might be the significent of the Rook be?

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.


Jan Newton - 05:38am Jan 6, 1999 MST (#46 of 672)

Men, all these numbers (and relating them to various historical and/or mythological references) are very interesting but what do they mean? Georgia, sorry about the math error. It's a good thing I'm in law where little things like numbers don't get in the way of the "bigger picture"!!! And to think I took one semester of calculus, and passed, too! Only goes to show you. . . Can anyone tell me when the game of chess first arose, and from whence?


Ron Adams - 10:54am Jan 6, 1999 MST (#47 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Well Jan, in the Eight there is a mention of Chess of Charlemagne. I think that perhaps the game of Tarrochi, Tarot and Chess could have arose at the same time in Italy, during the 14th & 15th Century. If Charlemagne had it, it would have been the 8th Century A.D.

Interesing Art's guest last nite quoted from 2 sources in this Chess thread. One was about the 4 Beast, or Sphinx of the Apocalypse, and he directly mentioned Chess and the Rook moving 45 degrees. I wonder if he has been reading this thread? Hum. His book is on Atlantis.

Mark great work. This ties in lots of the Mayan and time fractal stuff. Sorry, Jan, we'd have to teach a class to explain it all. Tho you can get a taste for it in the Mayan thread. Probably wouldn't help you unless you had an interest in numbers. But the ratios Mark is talking about are the time ratios we have discovered progressing in the ancient calendars, to our present day Gregorian, into the New Time calendars. This ratio is "9-7-5-3-1".

Rook is an interesting name. Some of these beings Art's guest was talking about last nite move in between the dimensions at a 45 degree angle. They can be seen as images like big birds. I think I had one in my dream recently. Lots of American Indians call them the Thunderbirds, huge birds that can capture a small child or farm animal easily.

May the Goddess, God, and Golden Child be with you all.
SunWolf


Georgia Albert - 02:33am Jan 7, 1999 MST (#48 of 672)

Ref. # 45

I found this information in the book Man, Myth & Magic.

Roc- the magico-religious bird has become a story-book character, but origianally the great bird gripping a snake represented the victory of the beneficent fertility-bringing powers over the evil forces of drought and sterility.( power over evil, Love)Notice the reference to fertility, Goddess.

Rook- in Germany ravens were thought to be the steeds on which witches rode. ( witch AKA Goddess)

One captures a piece in Chess, not kills, this is the correct term in the game of Chess.

I wonder, is the bishop really the Goddess of the in-betweens, Bridgid? Is there a corrisponding Goddess in the Arabian culture?

LOVE

PEACE

G

May the Hand of The Goddess Always be with You.


Ron Adams - 01:36pm Jan 7, 1999 MST (#49 of 672)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Are we pawns to life? How do we claim our authority and rulership? Is Intuition for our co-creation? When is a side approach better than a direct approach? Why is the Queen the only one to be resurrected, after capture?
Just some ponderings. Notice which chess pieces I refere to here?


Mark Borcherding - 10:21pm Jan 7, 1999 MST (#50 of 672)
dare to dream upon your own star

Ref #49 Pawns & Queens

Notice that there is one pawn for each other piece on the board. You could think of it like this. The pawns are like your human body sort of limited but very important. The Rook, Knight, Bishop, Queen, and King (5) have more abilities in movement but do not even have the power of a pawn of transformation. Now we come to the board which is the All and without its canvas the game could not be played at all.

Notice there are 6 unique pieces in the game: pawn, rook, knight, bishop, king, queen

Now if we add the board we get 6 + 1 = 7

Now if we add the players 7 + 2 = 9

Since there is black and white we can do this 9 + 9 = 18

18 = L O V E = 3+6+4+5 = 18

C H E S S = 3+8+5+1+1 = 18


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