Jan Newton - 03:53pm Mar 5, 1999 MST (#301 of 321)

Georgia, from what I understand, almost everything in Eastern and Western Europe, England and Ireland that has a "Dan" in it it attributable to the Goddess Danu. The Celts were a meandering and far flung people. I may be wrong about this, but seems to me I recall reading, somwhere, that Danu was an adaption of the name Tanu, which was an adaption of the name Tanith, which was an adaption of the name Ashtoresh, etc., going all the way back to the original mother goddess. So, there is another connection to chess. Phil, I also ran across a reference to a black (Irish) Celtic goddess (re your earlier posts), but I can't remember her name now. I'll look it up again.

Georgia and Jan:

Reference Boadicia (a.k.a. Boudicca). The Roman historian Tacitus mentioned her rebellion in what is thought to have been his last work, The Annals of Imperial Rome.

As you probably know, Julius Caesar invaded Britain in 55 B.C., and by about 84 A.D. the Romans controlled most of what is now England.

Queen Boadicia's rebellion took place in the early days of Roman occupation. I do not believe that she was really the queen of all the Britons. She was the widow of King Prasutagus of the Iceni tribe. There were a number of other tribes. Her husband had tried to placate the Romans and ensure a peaceful future by naming the Roman emperor as one of his heirs. Tacitus records that the widowed Boadicia and her daughters were physically abused by the Romans, who endeavored to enslave her people. So, there is little wonder that she would have wanted to revolt against the Romans.

Boadicia and her Iceni army were joined by the Trinovantes, another tribe who according to some historians used square swords, and who I believed were from the vicinity of Londinium. The Britons under Boadicia attacked Camulodunum in about 60 A.D. They routed the Roman Ninth Legion. The tribal warriors also raided settlements and killed innocent people, taking no prisoners.

Then the Roman general Suetonius Paulinus gathered together elements of various Roman army units and marched against Boadicia. Boadicia reportedly led her troops from a war chariot. At the end of battle, Suetonius Paulinus won. His forces sustained several hundred deaths, while Boadicia's forces supposedly lost about eighty thousand warriors. The defeated warrior queen, Boadicia, took her own life in a way I'm not going to mention.

The Iceni rebellion under Boadicia wasn't the last fight against the Romans, but the Romans ruled Britain for several hundred years, until sometime around 400 A.D.

We have a 9th, Welcome Micheal! Your knowledge of history is a valuable addition to our beautiful weaving. I love the balance of male and female (Yin, Yang) we have, I feel this is why our weave exists.

LOVE

G

May Manna Always Be With You.

Georgia and Jan, I was reading the other day about Joseph Campbell's comments on Freud's last book ("Moses and Monotheism"), where the venerable psychoanalyst got the "heretical" idea that Moses was not a Hebrew, but an Egyptian, and that his name is a derivative of Ra-Moses, where "moses" in Egyptian meant "son" (as in "Thut-moses" I, II, and III, 18th Dynasty pharoahs). The idea is that Moses was influenced by a later 18th dynasty phaoraoh, Akhnaton (Amenophis IV), and his queen Nefirtiti, as we have discussed in earlier posts. Interesting, because many historians have speculated that Akhnaton was the true founder of monotheism (one God), but he himself was a great patron of Maat (Goddess of Truth and Justice)! In the end, of course, Akhnaton, Nefertiti, and their "Aten" monotheistic movement were razed by the polytheistic priesthood who wanted a return to the good ol' days of power over the masses, by keeping them dependent upon the priests who were the requisite links to the many gods.

The irony in this whole speculative line of thinking is that the Goddess traditions were largely eclipsed by the Western monotheistic ways (Judaism, Christianity, Islam), and yet all may have had their source in a man (Moses) who was influenced by a worshipper of Maat!

And, to complete the link, Maat's partner Thoth was the deity of the Kabbalistic Magic Square of 8X8=64 squares -- geometric form of the chessboard!

Phil, do you never sleep? Thanks for the info on Queen B, Michael (Lofts says, strictly speaking, she wasn't really England's first queen but she's included in the pantheon because "she was British, she was heroic, and she fought for a seemingly lost cause; she is remembered". Lofts also says "that her name, spelt in various ways, is said to be the equivalent of Victoria". Phil, the name of the Irish goddess I was thinking about is "Morrigan". This is what the entry by Evans says: "'Spectre Queen' or 'Great Queen': a trio of war-goddesses, named the Morrigan, Badb ('scald-crow') and Nemain ('frenzy, fury'), were probably manifestations of the same diety: appeared as ravens, birds of ill omen in Celtic tradition, before and during battles: in her manifestation as 'the Washer at the Ford', the Morrigan foretold the outcome of battle by washing the equipment of those about to fall: the double association with the river and the raven suggests a possible reflex of the Gaulish Nantosuelta." There is a picture of a funerary or ritual urn on the next page which shows various gods and goddesses and the caption says "the number three was important in Celtic mythology and some Celtic goddesses, such as the Morrigan, appeared in groups of three." So, we have the raven (remember Georgia's earlier postings about the Ruhk, etc.), the river (used on the board in Chinese chess), and a trinity of goddesses! I checked up on the goddess Nantosuelta, which says "posssibly a river-goddess (Welsh nant 'stream') her iconographic symbol, the raven, suggests a link with Irish war-goddess Morrigan, also associated with rivers.

 Ref post #304 - Philip I did a little numerology on
words in the post and here what I found:

Word	SUM	Reduce
Moses	17	8
Amenophis IV	59	5
Nefirtiti	56	2
One God	33	6
Maat	8	8
Thoth	26	8
Ra-Moses	27	9
Goddess of Truth and Justice	98	8

I notice a few things the list of words starts and ends with
a 17 as 89 = 9+8 = 17. I also notice alot of 8's in the last
column which is a numeric reduction of the SUM into a
single digit. Relating to the 8 rows and columns of the
Chess board.

Notice Amenophis IV 59 + 5 = 64 and 64 = 6+4 = 10
10 = 1+0  -or- 1 yang + 0 yin = 1 in Balance

yang = 20 , yin = 21 thus yin + yang = 41

4 fingers and 1 thumb (opposable)
4 arms/leg and 1 head (top)
4 senses of the head (see, hear, smell, taste) and 1 sense of touch (All over the body)
4 directions and 1 center (unity) of the medicine wheel
4 points of the pyramid base and 1 crown (top)

John and Caitlan Matthews mention the "Washer at the Ford" in their Hallowquest Tarot, where she is representative of the Death card. They connect Morrigan to Morgan, the Avalon Goddess, and also to Modron, the Welsh Great Mother; Modron's son Owain is Arthur's opponent in the Welsh Mabinogion tales, where chess is mentioned in association with Perceval's quest.

Mark, another take on the 4-1 symbology, re chess, is 4 "officers " (pawn, rook, knight, bishop), 1 Goddess (queen) and 1 indispensible source (king). This could be paralleled with the Hermetic system of 4 elements (air, earth, fire, water), and 1 non-material energy (ether), plus the unknowable Source. One possibility would be as follows:

Pawn -- Earth, the Body, simplest of the elements, the foundation of life and the base of our journeying on the alchemical quest.

Rook -- Air, the Mind, connecting to the Chariot and the Merkabah, vehicle of communication and knowledge.

Bishop -- Water, Feeling, the Heart, the converter of negative energy and the alchemical master of opposites (light/dark squares), creating balance.

Knight -- Fire, Intuition, the initiate who can escape earthbound conditions (leaping over), thus transcending logic.

Queen -- Ether, Goddess, the manifest creative Force of the known universe, the Energy of Spirit.

King -- The unknown and unknowable Source, the infinite.

The above is a working template for understanding the hidden alchemical "code" of chess. What I'd like to see, Mark, is the numerology of the chess pieces and the elements compared in the ancient languages (Latin, Greek, Persian, Sanskrit). I'm certain that interesting stuff will be decoded if we correlate that with the numbers in the Thoth-Hermes Kabbalistic square of 8X8.

Ref.305

Washer at the Ford, very interesting, last Saturday I went to Bonnie Springs, an animal sanctuarty, they have a pair of Ravens that I like to feed, well last week I brought some fresh bread for them, guess what they did with it, they put it the water and washed the bread before they ate it. Many posts ago I mentioned that on the Giza platue they are excavating " The wall of the Crow"and the rook was also known as a large Crow. With the Rooks at each corner of the Chess board they form a wall. Connections everywhere.

As for the MIV Hitler, did you know that he and Pope Pius XII were buddies. Yes, the Pope and his German Secretary spent alot of time in Germany. Pope Pius knew what was happening to the Jewish people in Germany and did nothing, nothing, to stop it. Here is another interesting connection, Romans were slavers and so were the Germans and Swiss, right now German companies are paying restitution to the people who worked as slaves in Germany and Switzerland during WW II. We also know that in Moslem countries they still practice slavery. What I haven't quite figured out is why the MIV were trying to destroy the Jewish people, for Mary, mother of Jesus, was Jewish. Could they have been trying to kill off the Goddess Mary, her blood line?

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.

Georgia, as you know, I have fed several generations of crows in my yard since I built my place in 1990. I can attest to the fact that they will often taken objects, and sometimes food, to the birdbath, and wash it. They are incredibly intelligent creatures, and they don't "bite the hand that feeds them", so to speak. Garbage day in my subdivision is Tuesday and everyone has to put their garbage at the curb. Well, of course, the crows are lined up in the trees and overhead wires just waiting to pick in the garbage. Except, they leave my garbage alone. No lie, up and down the block, when I come home at night, you can tell where the crows have been picking at the plastic garbage bags and pulling out various tidbits. But they leave my stuff alone. Cool, hey? Phil, re post 304, wasn't Freud forgetting about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? They all believed in Yahweh/Jehovah, the One True God. Mark, all "my" eights jumped out at me from your post. What does the One True God reduce to in 9 numerology? Moses reduces to 8; Ma'at is a true 8; Thoth, her consort, reduces to 8; and Goddess of Truth and Justice (Ma'at's title), reduces to 8. Phil, re your post 307, I will volunteer to check out the different language words for the chess pieces. However, I do recall reading that the Latin words for the pieces were often made-up names, because there were no English word equivalents from the Arabic; for example, the Arabic "ferz" became the "queen" in English, but the ferz was originally the minister or counsellor, not a female at all (except in ancient Babylon, where she was the first queen turned into goddess!). It will be interesting to see where this leads. By the way, I saw Riverdance this afternoon and the singers did two songs in the Gaelic. What a wonderful, mysterious language. I understand it's one of the most difficult languages to learn, even harder than Mandarin Chinese! I got the tickets for the show before the end of January, I think, before we started the string investigating Welsh and Irish connections to chess! Talk about sychronicity! I agree with Georgia, what a wonderful tapestry we are weaving here.

P.S. Georgia re post 308, did you ever hear about the so-called "Concordat" signed between Pope (I believe it was) Pius and the German Government a/k/a Hitler? Talk about one aspect of the so-called "Babylon the Great" and the "Kings of the Earth" sleeping together (via shades of Revelation!!!; the Bible, very chastely, calls it 'committing fornication')! Within the past several months the Roman Catholic Church, authorized, by the present Pope, felt it incumbent to apologize for not taking a more active stance against Nazism pre-and during WWII. Jews were the number one target, but the Nazis also targeted for extermination and killed many thousands of the so-called Gypsies (Romany), Jehovah's Witnesses, the "physically infirm", "mentally inferior", et al., several hundred pacifists who refused to go to war, and later on, also many thousands of Roman Catholics. So much for the then prior Pope's Concordat. Hitler, if he had any knowledge of THE GAME, was, at most, a very poor player. Unfortunately, before the game checkmated (this was one game where the Black King took himself off the Board, so to speak), he managed to wreak havoc on several million of innocent mankind (read - Pawns).

 Ref 309 - J A N ... here it is in 9 numerology

One True God	52	7
Jesus Christ	43	7
Jan Newton	35	8
One True God and Goddess	90	9

Interesting there is 52 cards in a deck and 52 weeks in a year. Look what
happens when we add 43 + 9 = 52. See the 9 occurs when we add the
Goddess back in the last word phrase.

The name Jan Newton = 8 between the 7 and the 9 and so it forms a bridge
between Heaven and Earth Mother goddess. (35 + 52 + 3 = 90) in words this is
(Jan Newton + One True God + Earth orbit =  One True God and Goddess)

Re: Pull Down Your Mask, Wolf In A Sheepskin !!!

The Lateran Accords(sp?) which made The Vatican a Separate and Sovereign State were signed between Pius XII, predecessor, Pius XI(#?) and The Supreme Lictor, Benito Mussolini. The Grand Boulevard that leads up to the central Obelisk enclosed by St. Peter's Church was originally block after block of buildings which were demolished in acceding to the express Desire of His Sweet Papacy. I presume that this municipal alteration would be to enable some alignment of that Ebon Needle of Adamant with a Winking Red Eye on the Horizon.

The Shadow of His Wings, by Gereon Karl Goldmann, an autobiography, sheds light on the "arrangements" between Germany and the catholic church. The author joined the SS and continued as a catholic seminary student simultaneously with other Kameraden. Classes in combat and pest control were interrupted by furloughs to Lebensborn Resorts run by the KdF Org. (Kraft durch Freude/Strength Through Joy). The seminary students resolutely resist this assualt on their moral piety. It was only after completing SS officer training that he was formally requested to choose between the SS and cthulhuism. When he and the others choose the latter, they are simply transferred to the Wehrmacht. Years later on the sud-front in Italy, having continued his seminary studies and achieved ordination, Goldmann received permission to say mass and distribute holy communion to Italian civilians who were lacking a priest. This he performed, bearing the Iron Cross on his parade-dress uniform........you really ought to try the slot in the bishop piece....the visual effect is startling.......

Remember, now, Adolph means "little wolf", in German.......a diminutive, given with affection.

Here are the Greek letters of the pieces, and their combined number values (according to a number system for Greek given by Bonnie Gaunt in her book "Stonehenge and the Great Pyramid"):

Pawn (pi, iota, omicron, upsilon, iota) = 570

Knight (alpha, lambda, omicron, gamma, omicron) = 174

Bishop (epsilon, pi, iota, sigma, kappa, omicron, pi, omicron, zeta) = 542

Rook (pi, upsilon, rho, gamma, omicron, zeta) = 660

Queen (beta, alpha, sigma, iota, lambda, iota, sigma, sigma, alpha) = 654

King (beta, alpha, sigma, iota, lambda, iota, alpha, zeta) = 261

When these 6 numbers are added we get 2861, which reduced is 17, reduced again is 8.

The reduced numbers of the individual pieces are as follows:

Pawn=3, Knight=3, Bishop=2, Rook=3, Queen=6, King=9. When this is added we get 26, reduced is 8.

According to Gaunt, whose pyramid/Stonehenge book is full of mystical references to Jesus and who seems to be a heavily Christianized numerologist (unusual combination), the Greek word for Jesus adds up to 888. She also points out that it takes 8 minutes for light to reach our planet from the Sun. And, there's more: the Greek word "pneuma", as we have discussed, means both breath and Spirit (Shakti, Holy Spirit, Goddess), and is closely connected to breathing (in life, or spirit). The atomic number of Oxygen is 8. "Life", in Greek, is 808. And, Jesus' saying "I am the Life" totals 888 (in the Greek).

David Hulse in his "Key of it All" gives the number for Pythagoras as 864 (8 beside the square of 8, or the numbers of the chessboard). 864 is also the number for the Greek name for Jerusalem, held to be the "center of the universe" at one time.

Gaunt also provides some out-there interesting info about music that I'll post later after I've "eight-en" (okay, that was a bad one). I have Hulse's 2nd volume which gives the number values for Sanskrit, Hebrew, Arabic, Tibetan, and Chinese, which should be fun to look into re the chess pieces.

So Mark, what is it with this number 8?? Perhaps we are slowly beginning to decode the chess cipher...

 ref 315 Philip

"Key of it All" = 44 = 8

44 + 20 = 64 = 8 x 8           There are 20 Mayan SOLar glyphs in the sacred Tzolkin.

The 8th Mayan glyph is Lamat the yellow "Star" glyph and it relates to the planet Venus.
And we find the Mayans has a special thing for Venus and the 105 Venus cycle relates
to 365 days - 260 mayan tzolkin kin = 105. "Venus" = 18, "Love" = 18

Thus 888 = Star Star Star = Holy Holy Holy = "Holy Trinity"

8+8+8 = 24 and the word "Holy" = 24

These trinity of 8's form the Sun part of the Star Tetrahedron of the MerKaBa

Sun Tetrahedron MALE

Earth Tetrahedron FEMALE

S t a r - T e t r a h e d r o n
U n i t y

We see that 10 + 8 = 18 the 10 is 1 & 0 (male & female) (yang & yin)
Each tetrahedron has 4 points thus a star-tetrahedron with male + female
has 4 + 4 points and then we also see the 1 center of the tetrahedron thus
(1 4 4) the number 144 has a special significance in Revelations in the Bible.
There are 144,000 kin in a Mayan Baktun time cycle. 1+4+4=9 thus 9 represents
the male and female coming together thru the center "1" with the 4+4=8
The 1 and 8 form 18 Love which is 8+2+8 notice the 28 going both ways and
the Mayan moon is a cycle of 28 days. The Earth is the Goddess part of the
Star tetrahedron that accepts Heaven upon Earth. Thus it is no wonder that
the Goddess energy might be feared by some thru out history. 

"The Hand of the Goddess touches Our Sacred Hearts with Joy and Wonder"

Mark, what's a Mayan "kin"? The 144,000 from Revelation relates to 144,000 "chosen ones" "bought from the Earth" who are adopted as sons of God and are to become Priests and co-kings with Jesus in the new system after Armegeddon. Interesting that the two numbers are identical. Georgia, I found another warrior queen, Xenobia, who was ruler in Palmyra in the third century CE. I won't go into all the details, but basically she invaded Egypt and took the country over for awhile before getting defeated by the Roman Emperor Valerian. However, instead of getting herself killed after her capture by the Roman army, she ended up spending the rest of her days as a Roman matron. She must have been some gal! Phil, if your book contains the words in the foreign languages for all the chess pieces, then I won't hunt around for them. I contacted a lady who posts elsewhere and she sent me information on the 8. It is almost frightening how accurately it describes yours truly! I am a definite 8 personality, even the month I was born in (August) resonates with 8. Go figure!

Interesting note about the title of Hulse's book, Mark. He says he picked that title to match the numerology of his name, using some obscure Rosicrucian numbering system. Apparently the phrase "Key of it All" is found in Crowley's Book of the Law, 47th verse, 3rd chapter.

Concerning the Mayan and Christian number 144,000, here is more fun: The radius of the Aubrey Circle of Stonehenge is 144 feet! According to Gaunt, the "Station Stone" rectangle at Stonehenge points precisely to the Great Pyramid. She says that the rectangle is 288 feet (144 X 2), and that the Greek wording for "The Kingdom of Heaven" is also 288 in number value. She then gives the perimeter for the Great Pyramid as 3041.28 feet, which if converted to "reeds" (the Egyptian unit) equals 288.

Gaunt's books (she has 4 or 5 out) are wildly speculative and maybe at times lacking in rigour, but it's hard not to sit up and notice all these number connections. She's done exhaustive research and it all seems to be pointing toward some invisible design.

Jan, re "8", are you aware of the Enneagram Personality System? It is a 9-pointed symbol deriving from the Sarmoung school and Gurdjieff, and has been popularized by a number of psychologists in recent years (Palmer, Rohr, Riso, et al). It is the most comprehensive personality system I've ever come across, and gives an in depth explanation of the "8" type, at least according to the Enneagram teachings. I'm sure you can find info on it on the web.

Ref. # 315

The number twenty was at one time a base unit. It is seldonly used in English any more, it is called a score, 4 score and...... Lincoln's Gettisburg address. It is used regularly in the French language, quatre vingts, which translates to 4 twenties and that equals 80. Remeber the perimiters of the Chess board 4, 12,20,28, I wouldn't be surprised if this is where the term score originated from.

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.

It is called a "score" because that was the measure of 20 lashes. Later, the term was euphemized to refer to musical notation.

The 144,000 Mayan kin occur in a Baktun cycle and there are 13 baktuns from 3113 BC - 2012 AD when the current cycle ends on Dec 21.

There are 260 (13 x 20) unique Mayan kin and each kin has a Daytone and Solar glyph. For example today 3/8/1999 in the Quiche maya count is 11 Akbal kin 63.

The 144,000 from a Mayan perspective would mean that ALL are saved there is no one left behind. Each and every kin from a cycle is needed and has his or her own special energies. The Mayan phrase "In Lakech" means "I am another You" -or- "One Spirit of All". So the 144,000 is inclusive not exclusive.

In Mayan the 20th glyph is Ahau "Sun" and it also has the value 0 zero since they counted by 20's then the number 20 is the first number that introduces a 0 as a placeholder.

0 is special because it allows things to be increased in size without changing their base harmonic pattern. Thus 80 = 8+0 = 8 still an 8.

Ref 319 ... Jan sorry forgot to discuss your first question about what happens at the end of a cycle and beginning of another.

I recall someone writing that if you saw a human baby being born from a certain perspective it looks traumatic, bloody, painful, and bad. It is said that if the mother has no fear and feels it is a blessed event she will feel ecstacy not pain, likewise if she has mainly fear she will be in pain. I think this is probably a good analogy to the birth of a new cycle.

We are in the catapillar cycle now and entering the butterfly cycle as we gain our wings and power of co-creation. It is important to balance the beauty of both the feminine goddess energy and the male god energy (yin & yang) for each person has both of these energies.

I would think it is a nice idea to get an early start on creating our new cycle and everyone in this Chess post looks like a wonderful creator to me.

Mark, thanks for finding "my" 8's and also for the info on the end/beginning of a new cycle. I have not had a child, and therefore can rely only upon what I have heard from three younger sisters, all who have had children. IT HURTS! Of course, afterward, the pain is all forgotten. I was pondering Phil's post about the 8x8=64 grid superimposed over the Giza plateau when it occurred to me that 6 + 4 = 10 = 1 + 0. Mark, isn't this the alpha/omega you mentioned earlier, also the yin/yang? If you have a chance, I would highly recommend all of us looking at the Giza Plateau using the terraserver site that was given to me over in Pyramids II. I checked it our last night and it is really cool. With our collective eyes, perhaps we can pick out some interesting features or something will jump out at one or more of us. For example, I thought I saw what looked like a giant X in the mountainous or hilly region to the northwest of the plateau, but the other Phil (from Pyramids II) says he didn't see it. See what you think. It its there, does X mark the spot?

I visited the Terraserver site again and found my X. However, it doesn't really look like an X after I zoomed in on it enough. I posted about this over at Pyramids II. I printed off some of the pics, but the resolution is very poor. I'm not hopeful that I'll see anything unusual. However, I will look for 8's and 9's tonight while I'm watching Star Trek Voyager. Phil, the 8x8 grid that you mentioned earlier, was it superimposed over a photo of the Giza Plateau or over a diagram of same?

The grid was superimposed on a diagram of the Giza plateau, Jan. Take out your chessboard and imagine the following: The Great Pyramid fits exactly into squares g1, h1, g2, and h2 (white king knight 1, white king rook 1, white king knight 2, white king rook 2) of the chessboard. The 2nd Pyramid (attributed to Khafre, or Chephren) falls within the central squares d4, d5, e4, and e5 (white queen 4, white king 4, black queen 4, black king 4), filling up 93.75% of the space (the 2nd pyramid is 93.75% the perimeter of the GP), with the base tucked in to the "lower left" corner of the d4 square (white queen 4). The 3rd pyramid, Menkaure (or Mycenirus), is found exactly straddling the a6 and a7 (white queen rook 6 and 7, or black queen rook 2 and 3) squares, filling up exactly half of the a6 and a7 squares. The exactitude of these placements strongly indicates deliberate design.

Furlong's research is amazing, and seems to show an obvious geometric design for Giza that involves the 8X8=64 squares. For instance, the two grid lines that show where the 2nd pyramid is placed (on the chessboard, the left side [south side on the plateau] of d1 to d8, and the lower side [east side on the plateau] of the a4 to h4 rank, are Golden Mean proportions! This is extraordinary. The Golden Mean, also known as Phi, is .618, and is found everywhere in primary geometric figures (such as the pentagram, symbol on the American flag and many others), and in the Golden Mean rectangle and "Fibonacci spiral", which is found in many life-forms and universal structures (galaxies, hurricanes, whirlpools, nautilus shells, etc.). The sequence of Fibonacci numbers is 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89, etc., where the preceding number is added to the last one to create the next one.

So, what we have encoded into BOTH the Giza plateau and the chessboard (and, astonishingly, both of them together at Giza), is the Golden Mean proportion, and the Fibonacci spiral that arises out of it. According to the mathematician Schneider, the 17th century mathematician Bernoulli said that the Fibonacci spiral expressed "Eadum mutato resurgo" -- "Although changed, I arise again the same". Hmm. Letting go of Bernoulli for a moment and bringing in the mythologist Campbell, I could easily see him equating that saying to the Goddess archetype, the Shakti principle that governs all life forms...

One more thing concerning the numbers 8,8,64. The diameter of the Sun is 864,000 miles. Akhenaton, 18th dynasty pharoah who was a worshipper of Maat and promoted the One God as "Aten", the Solar Disk, was linked to the Essene mystery schools by a number of metaphysical researchers. Christ may well have been initiated by the Essenes. The number 37 has incredible properties and when multiplied by multiples of 3 creates 3-sequenced numbers (37X3=111, 37X6=222, 37X9=333, 37X12=444, etc.). 37X24=888, the Greek number for the name Jesus. When we insert the chessboard and Giza grid number of 64 into the 37 multiplier, we get 37X64=2368. 2368 is the Greek number for the name Jesus Christ (in Greek). This part may seem a bit disjointed but this is the link: Aten-solar disk-diameter of sun-Akhenaton (Maat-Thoth-Great Pyramid-8X8=64 grid-Golden Mean proportion-Fibonacci spiral-Goddess archetype)-Essene-Jesus-64-Jesus Christ.

There. Wasn't that simple? Poker anyone?

Philip,

Your on a Roll! Winner!

I am very glad I took Trig. in college. I can read the music of the numbers, and this is beautiful music. I have read recently that a man, by the name of Le Plongeon, theorises that Mayan's colonized Egypt. Hmmmmmmmm Mark, what are your thoughts on this? Recently archaeologists have proven that the peoples of the Americas and Europe were trading for 20,000 years. This man Le Plongeon mentions Queen Moo and her brother/husband (Osiris, Isis)Prince Coh, they were Mayan, when Coh was murdered, Moo fled to Eygpt for saftey, Le Plongeon claims this was the origin of Isis and Osiris.Hmmmm

LOVE

G

May Manna Always be with You.

Phil, was the Sphinx integrated into the grid overlay at all? Did a little reading on the Carthaginians last night. Georgia, they were not very nice people, they sacraficed their children (first borns) to the fire god Chemosh (Molech or Moloch). I was checking up on the origins of the name "Carthage" and ran across that little bit of information. The word "kart" in Chaldean means "walled city", according to Hyslop. I checked on words in my Bible Concordance close to "Hage" and game up with Hagi, Haggi, and Haggai, all having the same Hebrew root of "festival". Thus, Carthage means "walled city [or fortified city] of festivals". One of the biggest festivals was the spring celebrations honoring Ashtoreth (Astarte), from which our Easter springs. Also ran across "Carchemish"; I believe this name means "walled city of Chemosh [or Molech]". As with "Dan", now I'm wondering if cities with "Car" or "Cart" in them elsewhere have the same root meaning? I also ran across the Armenian Hall of Fame (remember my earlier post about chess possibly passing to Russia through the Caucasus and the Armenians claiming descent from a descendant of Japheth) on the Net last night. Here are some of the names: George Gurdjieff (one of Phil's favorites); Gary Kasparov; Cher (Sarkassian); Lando Kalrissian (no lie, he was there!); and Tilgran Petrossian, who was listed as an "ex-world chess champion". So, at least two world champion chess players hailed from the area. Georgia is also in the same area, where there are so many people who live to be over 100. Hmmmm, restricted access to the people living in those mountains for so long may have kept the gene pool "purer", and thus closer to the original survivors off the Ark. Worth considering...

ref 325 Philip ... great observations I am going to have to ponder them some more and reply later.

ref 326 Georgia I can see that that the Mayans and Egyptians may have very well come from the same place originally perhaps Lemuria or Atlantis. I suspect their cultures went into a slow decline probably due to whatever has/is causing our spiritual amnesia and seperation that causes things like hiding and attacking the Goddess energy. 37X9=333 relating to 9 and in Mayan culture the 9 was very significant to them on many levels.

Ref 327 Jan it will be interesting to see what comes up on the Sphinx realting to chess board layout. From what I have heard the Sphinx is looking from one age to another. The age of Leo to the age of Aquarius. "Sphinx" = 36 (36 + 1 = 37) look at all the 37's in Philips 325 post. 37 relates to Hydrogen the 1st element thus all others are harmonically related.

"The Heart Manna of the Goddess"

On Furlong's chessboard grid, you find the Sphinx by placing the point of a compass on the NE corner of the Great Pyramid, select the Golden Mean radius (in this case 3/2 times the length of one GP side, or, on the chessboard, put your compass point on the lower right corner of the h1 (white king rook 1) square and put the pencil point on the lower left corner of the d1 (white queen 1) square. Then draw a circle. At the exact point of two squares "below" the chessboard grid where the Golden Mean arc bisects, is where the Sphinx is! Thus, the Golden Mean ratio found in the Giza chessboard grid predicts the placement of the Sphinx. Or, put another way, the placement of the pyramids and Sphinx are all based on the design and geometry of the 8X8=64 grid and its derivative geometric proportions.

Hmm. I wonder how many people know about this. Furlong's research is based only on the 8X8=64 grid, and only covered in 2 or 3 pages of his 300 pg work. And, he mentions chess nowhere in the entire book. We may be the first to link chess with the Giza plateau.

Now I'm REALLY starting to think about a book...

Phil, you should definitely write a book about chess history. I'm already working up plot lines for the definitive chess novel. I believe there is at least one theory floating around out there that the Sphinx is much older than the pyramids on the Plateau, and goes back to, hmmm, was it 12,000 BCE? Assuming, for the moment, that this is correct, that would mean, Phil, that the geometry of the three pyramids was made to coincide with the earlier geometry of the Sphinx. Just a thought. It's hard to believe that the Great Pyramid and the Sphinx are contemporary in origin. This may be incorrect, if so, please correct me, but I thought the Sphinx was carved right out of the raw native stone of the Plateau. Where did the "waste" stone go to, or is it still around somewhere? And it seems to me that such a carving job would have been even more massive an undertaking than constructing the Great Pyramid, as awe inspiring as that project had to have been (even today, I understand, we really can't duplicate the Pyramid builders' engineering feats!). At any rate, my hypothesis is as follows: assume the Sphinx pre-dated the catastrophy that destroyed the great civilization that pre-dated our current one; most everything is washed away in the ensuing Great Flood, but the Sphinx, in a now greatly diminished and damaged form, survives as a harbinger of that great prior age. There are only handfuls of survivors, in Egypt, in Ararat (Caucasus Mountains), in South America, in China. These survivors all retain memories of that Great Age, one of the pastimes of which was chess, the game of the Goddess, encoding mathematical and chemical formulae as well as being The Game about the mating dance of male and female (think about it, isn't love often equated with war, at least as far as strategy and tactics?) As the isolated pockets of survivors struggle to recreate what was before, the first thing they do is start playing chess again. As the populations grow, the survivors determine that never again will their wonderful achievements and monuments to their greatness be wiped out by a disaster. The Babylonians, under Nimrod, the first one after the Flood to develop fortified cities and engage in war, undertakes the construction of the Tower of Babylon; the dispersion takes place; later in history, the Great Pyramid is undertaken, with its wonderful encoded knowledge; by now, the neo-Babylonians are building the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, the Chinese have built several hundred massive pyramids, and the civilizations in the new world are getting warmed up to do their building at Machu Picho, etc. This post is far too long, but you get the general picture (I hope), of where I'm going with this. This scenario makes far more sense to me than talking about aliens "mutating" us out of ape-women, and all of our wonderful mysteries being attributable to a bunch of space jockies with pointy heads (ala the Coneheads!).

Ref 329 Philip ... each of the 64 DNA codons could be assigned to a chess square and its interesting to think how that relates to the pyramids & sphinx positions. Seems like the sphinx is sitting in a "vesica pices". The Sphinx appears to be looking into another Age of time when the energy of the Goddess will be shared equally with All.

Perhaps we should think of what each pryamid and the sphinx represent(s). Does it relate to chess pieces as well?

Mark, excellent point about the Sphinx, re the time-factor. Jan also questioned about the comparitive placements of the 3 main pyramids and the Sphinx.

I've been pondering why the Sphinx lies outside of the chessboard grid (though accessible by following the Golden Mean ratio arc from the NE corner of the GP), and one hypothesis would be that the Sphinx belongs to a different temporal grid, as it was created at a different time.

This is what most of the metaphysical researchers have long believed, and what the American geologist Robert Schoch was determining in the early 90s before his working privileges at Giza were revoked by Hawi, oops, Zahi Hawass and co. Schoch showed that the erosion patterns on the Sphinx were caused by torrential rain, pushing its creation back many millennia before what was commonly accepted (when there actually was enough rain at Giza to cause something like this).

Extraordinary to speculate about this. If the Sphinx lies outside of the 8X8=64 grid, then it must pre-date it, for the geological reasons shown above. Thus, the chessboard grid, though ancient, may have been pre-dated by something even older.

According to the Sanskrit scholar Dr. G. Mees, the Sphinx represents the combination of the Goddess and the Lion. He boldly asserts that the head is the head the Goddess (pg 44, Vol. 2, "The Revelation in the Wilderness"). He connects the Sphinx head to the Moon and Shakti (for an interesting twist on the ancient meaning of "Shakti", check out Ron Bach's comments on the Guests/Sitchin site).

The Sphinx symbol eventually made it to Crete, where it was very important. In myth, Oedipus explains the Sphinx riddle as follows: "In the morning it goes on four legs, in the mid-day on two, and in the evening on three. It is the only creature that changes the numbers of its feet." Hmm. Maybe that one deepens the riddle, rather than explains it.

It has occurred to me that the knight move is a Golden Mean proportion, 3/2 (three squares, then two perpendicular squares). The Sphinx is found on a Golden Mean arc trajectory from the Great Pyramid. Looking at the chessboard, I see that all 3 main pyramids are separated by exactly a knight's move from each other! And, the Sphinx is located a knight's move from the Great Pyramid -- following the GM arc off the grid.

One other neat thing. The Giza chessboard grid measurments are 3023 feet by 3023 feet (each square is about 378 by 378 ft.). The entire equatorial circumference of the Earth is about 130,564,440 feet (24,728 miles). The relationship between the Giza chessboard grid and the cicumference of the earth is precise. The width (or length) of the grid is exactly one-half of a minute of equatorial latitude. You get this by dividing the circumference, 130,564,440 ft by 360 [degrees] = 362,679 ft, which is one degree latitude. Then further divide 362,679 ft by 60 [minutes] = 6,044.65 ft, which is one minute of arc latitude. Then divide this last number by 2, and you have 3,022.3 ft, which is within .0003% of the dimension of the Giza chessboard grid!

Thus, not only is the exact size of the Earth encoded into the Great Pyramid dimensions, it is also encoded into the Giza chessboard grid.

Your other ideas are interesting as well, Mark, re the DNA codons. Will look at that later.

Good evening, all. Phil, I perhaps did not make my position vis a vis the Sphinx quite clear, but in any event, your musings and my assumptions about the comparative ages of the Sphinx and the three great pyramids track 100%; only our "modus operandi" differ; you attribute the condition of the Sphinx to natural weathering conditions that existed eons ago; I attribute them to a catastrophic flood. We end up in the same place! I have been following the discussion elsewhere about the meaning of "Shakti", thus my reference to coneheads in my prior post! (Editorial note: as far as I'm concerned, that says it all, although "that" thread certainly is entertaining, just like the old Saturday Night Live shows). I was reading briefly last night about an Egyptian goddess who had a human body and the head of a lion. I forget her name at the moment, perhaps one of you know it? She apparently is very ancient, even, perhaps, predating the Isis/Osiris/Horus trinity and the whole Egyptian pantheon. Most interesting, n'est pas? I will check on Her further. And just what does that Cretan riddle mean? Phil, do you know the answer? If you don't, no fair posting it! Excellent discovery about the movement of the Knight vis a vis the Giza Chess Grid! How long did you stare at the Grid before coming up with it? For myself, I've been pondering Mark's last post about the possible chess meanings/identifications of the Giza Plateau with chess pieces! I freely confess it's been driving me nuts! Perhaps I will dream about it tonight. Finally, Phil, the Grid encoding the dimensions of Earth within .0003 (did I get that right? it does work backwards as well, n'est pas?) is truly amazing! I notice that the last number, 6,044.65 ft. (which is one minute of arc latitude), is divided by 2, to get 3,022.3 ft, to get within .003 of the dimension of the Giza Chessboard Grid. Do you suppose the 2 signifies that it takes "two to tango", so to speak, meaning, of course, playing chess! Finally, my friend Alice e-mailed me the numerological meaning of "64", as well as "10", and "1". If you want these, let me know, I will send them along to you. Quite, quite fascinating!

RE Post 332: The Golden Mean also ties in Pythogoras' discovery of the Octave Law. I think Katherine Neville's Book "The Eight" really brings out a lot of information that has been before us all along. RE Post: 326 The the music of the numbers;
I found an interesting site called International Lambdoma Research Institute that ties it all together. They show the relationships all of the parts that we are discussing here. The I Ching, The DNA Codons, The Harmonic Octave. The 8X8 Grid, the color coded musical scale, mandellas and more. For those of you that are interested the URL is
http://members.aol.com/Lambdom/Home/ILRIHomePage.html
In Neville's Book the chessboard have have been hidden, but the main version looks like is it sitting right there on the Giza plateau.
Ilumani

Ilumani, thanks for the info, I will check it out. Do you get the feeling that sometimes "those men folk" don't hear what it is we're saying???

P.S. Dear Mark, re post 327, thanks for bringing up Lemuria! I read about it more years ago than I care to disclose here. Usually everyone points to Atlantis as the precursor civilization, and they forget about gentle, wonderful Mu! Shades of the Great Mother Godesss! We should also check HER out!

ref 332 Philip

In the morning it goes on four legs, in the mid-day on two, and in the evening on three.

Interesting that the Sphinx is outside the 8x8 grid perhaps looking beyond the time of the 64 DNA codons into a new age.

Look at the pattern of the Knights possible moves very interesting looking design:

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Ref 334 Vickie ... there is one more thing to add to music that is often very important and forgotten and that is "silence" so 8 notes + 1 silence = 9

Ref 336 Jan ... most likely that Lemuria (Mu) pre-dated Atlantis and the Lemurains founded South American, Central American, and Atlantean cultures and probably is the mother culture.

Another fascinating "discovery" on the Giza 64 grid: take the compass point from the SE corner of Khafre's pyramid (lower left corner of the d4, or white queen 4 square), which is the intersection point of the two Golden Mean lines (running on the left edge of the d1 to d8 file, and the bottom edge of the a4 to h4 rank), and make the compass radius the same as the radius from right corner of h1 to left corner of d1, i.e. the Golden Mean radius, and then draw the arc. Amazingly, it bisects the arc from the GP's NE corner (lower right corner of h1) at precisely the Sphinx's front paws!

This bisection is not listed on Furlong's grid. When I made this discovery I immediately recalled something that Cayce had predicted about the Sphinx's front paws. I grabbed Bauval and Hancock's "Keeper of Genesis" from my library and there it is, discussed in detail. Cayce predicted that the Atlantean "Hall of Records" was stored under the Sphinx's front paws. According to Bauval and Hancock, when John West took the American geologist Schoch to Giza, where he made his famous geologic assessment of the Sphinx's age, he also took along the geophysicist Dr. T. Dobecki, who made an startling discovery: using seismographic instruments, he found strong indications of "cavaties and anomalies" in the bedrock between the Sphinx's paws. One cavaty was described as about "30 ft by 40ft", buried about 15 feet deep. He felt the regular shape was not consistent with something naturally occurring, thus it may have been man-made.

Then, just as Dobecki was doing his measurements and Schoch was determining the age, Zahi showed up on the scene and accused them all of "abusing the Sphinx's body" (they had inserted endoscopes into the rock) and of doing "unscientific work". They were expelled and barred from returning to complete their investigations. According to Bauval and Hancock, Hawass was cheesed off because they had consulted his superior, and not him, to get permission to do their work.

So, what's interesting here is that what Cayce foresaw, and what West, Dobecki, and Schoch were trying to confirm, is predicted by our Giza chessboard 64 grid! It's very simple and can be done by anyone with a good compass, diagram of the plateau, and understanding of where to place the grid, combined with an understanding of Golden Mean ratios.

The flood thing is interesting, Jan. The guy who got the whole ball rolling re the Egypt-Sirius mystery back in the 70s, Robert Temple, has recently come out with a new edition of his old classic (perhaps feeling left out what with all the others getting kudos) in which he presents his theory that the Sphinx's weathering is caused by being submerged in water! I don't think he thought it was a flood, but rather related to water levels. The book is "The Sirius Mystery", the 1998 edition.

Illumani, interesting site, but I couldn't find anything that led me to believe that we're just reinventing the wheel...well, at least in entirety anyway.

Mark, your board seems to be 7X7. Can you show an 8X8 version? Also, can you blacken out the squares that show the positions of the pyramids for effect? See my earlier post for the grid coordinates. Thanks.

Ref 338 Philip the 7x7 was just for example did not intend anything other than show the knights various options for a move that form that pattern. I am very interested in what you have discovered and have not had time to properly digest it all. That is the reason I hve not responded alot on it.

I will be happy to try to diagram what you have discovered but will be busy this weekend so not sure when I can get it done. Perhaps a first simple version in the next 2 days.

"Golden Mean" = 45

45 x 1.618 = 72.81

72 + 81 = 153 and this number is found in several places on the pyramids

1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+17 = 153

17 X 9 (total pyramids at the Giza complex) = 153

204 (total courses of stone on the Great Pyramid) / 1.3333333(a 4th in music intervals) = 153

360 feet up the Great Pyramid is the 153rd course

The length of the grand gallery inside the Great Pyramid is 153 feet

153 + 513 = 666 6 x 6 x 6 = 216(new standard)

315 + 351 = 666 2160 miles is the diameter of the moon

135 + 531 = 666 (not the devil but astronomy)

1 and 5 and 3 are the degrees in a scale used to make a chord

Ref. 332

The Riddle. What animal is it that in the morning goes on four feet, at noon on two feet, and in the evening on three feet?

This riddle or the sphinx, hides the pythagorean values of numbers. The 4, the 2, and the 3 produce the sum of 9, which is the natural number of a person and also of the lower worlds. The 4 represents the ignorant person, the 2 the intellectual person, and the 3 the spiritual person. Infant humanity walks on four legs, evolving humanity on two legs, and to the power of a persons own mind the redeemed and illumined magus adds the staff of wisdom. the sphinx is therefore the mystery of Nature, the embodiment of the secret doctrine, and all who cannot solve her riddle perish. To pass the sphinx is to attain personal immortality.

According to the Greek legend of the Sphinx is similar to the Egyptian legend. The Sphinx is a winged lion with a head of a woman. The sphinxes lare was along the road to Thebes, whoever passed was ask the riddle. If you failed to answer correctly the sphinx would destroy them. Edipus traveled the road, and when asked the riddle he replied, it is a person. An infant person travels on all 4s when crawling, an adult person walks on 2 legs, and an old person travels with 3 legs( 2 legs and a cane). He was right so the sphinx cast herself off a cliff. I personally like the first version myself, I like stories with happy endings. My version of the end is, the sphinx praises Edipus for his answer, and allows him to pass safely, and they all lived happily ever after.

This information, I shared, was from a book by Manly Hall, very sexist, so I did some editing of my own.

Mark, I remember the post with the Knight circut you did many posts ago. I am looking forward to the diagram you come up with, I am sure it will be beautiful.

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddesss Always be with You.

Georgia, post 340, excellent, I was thinking along the lines of evolution as well but the idea of the "staff" of wisdom for the 3rd leg hadn't occurred to me. That makes perfect sense. I'll have to check out that Hall book. Also, the Sphinx is connected to Trump #10 in the Tarot, Judgment. I wonder what happened to the wings of the Giza Sphinx, and whether her/him/it ever had any.

Jan, your "two" divisor mentioned in post 333 probably is significant. Mark, interesting observations, 360 is also the number of degrees in equatorial latitude, thus related to Giza grid dimensions again.

Another link: the pyramid rises to its point of power in the centre (apex). Imagine a pyramid over a chessboard. The apex falls at the exact center of the 4 central chessboard squares. In chess, the 4 central squares are of maximum power and importance, the key to the strategy of the game....

I remember Philip mentioning that there are nine Pyraminds on the Giza plateau. I had a hunch, so I looked up all the minerals that are octahedral in their crystaline form. I found, get this, 9, Hmmmmmmm.

Diamond C

Gold Au

Iron Fe

Hematite Fe2 O3

Magnetite Fe3 O4

Fluorite Ca F2

Chromite Fe Cr2 O4

Spinel Mg Al2 O4

Franklinite Similar to Magnetite, Zinc and Magnesium.

Could the proportions of these crystals relate to the proportions of the pyramids?

Bon Nuit

LOVE

G

May Manna Always Be With You.

Just thought I would throw this in about the sphinx. I have heard from different sources at the time of Atlantis there were "mixtures" of human and animals. Edgar Cayce alluded to this the most, though there are others who speak of these. Myths also speak of mermaids, centaurs and other mixtures. Could the Sphinx be a memorial to these creatures, perhaps? Or something more?

Also Key 10 of the Tarot is "The Wheel of Fortune" I will copy from my Tarot File below for you. The "Judgement" is Key 20.

Key 10 The Wheel of Fortune. The symbol corresponding to this card is the closed hand, indicating mental comprehension. To grasp is to own; and to grasp your place in the world is to grasp what and who you really are. Therefore you never suffer material deprivation.

The number 10 begins a new cycle, a repetition of the 1. Rotation and cyclicity are the keywords for the Wheel of Fortune. All is in the process of becoming; change is the only constant, so in due time, all things come to pass.

The bull, the lion, the eagle and the man represent the four fixed signs of the zodiac- Taurus, Leo, Scorpio (the eagle is a symbol for the higher side of Scorpio) and Aquarius. The books that they hold represent the wisdom of the ages. They indicate the laws of the universe, which are immutable, fixed and cannot be changed. The wavy serpent symbolizes the descent of the life force into manifestation. The jackal-headed hermanubis (an Egyptian god Thoth, also a race of jackal-headed men) shows evolution of form, while the human body and animal head indicate that man has not evolved beyond the intellectual level. His ears above the horizon of the Wheel of Fortune show that man's interior hearing or intuition allows him to rise to a higher level. The sphinx depicts the developed human being to which we aspire. The woman's head and breast, coupled with the lion's body, show the soul in dominion over the body, in perfect harmony, hence exemplifying the union of male and female powers.

Alice, you just might be on the wavelength of the Art Bell historical chess club. Welcome, I enjoyed your comments.

You're absolutely right about trump #10 being Wheel of Fortune, not Judgment. In some decks (Crowley's, Haindl's) "Judgment" is not called that but "Aeon", but yes, it is never #10.

The information re Thoth as "jackal-headed" is less certain. In the renditions I saw in Egypt, and in what some researchers believe, his head is that of an Ibis bird. Annubis seems jackal-headed. Some thought that of Set as well, though most saw his head as being of some unknown creature or a composite of others.

The point about Cayce and the Atlantean hybrids is excellent and may well be the possible source. This could certainly explain some of the mythological creatures, as well as Set's mysterious head.

According to Bauval and Hancock there was once a Horus-king statue standing in between the Sphinx's front paws. The 3rd big pyramid, Menkaure, has been connected to Horus by some, including Robert Temple. Two Golden Mean arcs bisect that exact spot where the Horus statue apparently stood, from radius points indicated in my earlier posts. And, the proportions of the 30 by 40 ft "cavity" detected by Dobecki are the same proportions of the 2nd pyramid, which fits on a 4 X 6 grid. If you view the 2nd pyramid two-dimensionally, then slice it in half, you get a 3-4-5 triangle, with the base 3 and the height 4. This is interesting because the Sphinx lines up with the 2nd pyramid. When you stand in front of it, the 2nd pyramid (attributed to Khafre) towers over it from behind, from a distance of about 1,700 ft. away. This placement is part of the reason it was assumed that the Sphinx's mug belonged to Khafre (they still proclaim this in the Sound and Light Show every evening), though this has been severely doubted by many. John West even brought in an American detective who was an artist and face expert. He was given pictures of the Sphinx and the carvings of Khafre and concluded that they were absolutely different people. Zahi's reaction? Well, you guessed it....

Two of my posts have disappeared into the ether of cyberspace... I see Alice visited us. She was kind enough to send me some info on the numbers 64, 10 and 1. She already quoted in her last post some of the info about 10, here is some interesting stuff about 64 (this is related as a personal number vibration, so you will have to abstract to The Game):

A 64/1 is extremely individualistic and often remains single. However, your magnetic personality, tolerance, liberal views and charitable ways draw joy and affection into your life. You are especially effective with groups... You are intuitive and a good judge of human nature. Your keen intellectual perceptions will serve you well if you decide on a literary career, or decide to become a professor or public speaker. Professional work is better for you than efforts in the commercial field. ... Your will to win comes from your strong positive attitude and determination to let nothing get you down.

Scientific and spiritual matters interest you. Once you have awakened the life force or kundalini, within you and accepted the true nature of reality, which is change, you will have the powers to overcome all negative forces.

A negative 64/1 suffers many losses and failures. You cling desparately to the material world of fear. Because you hang on, each loss brings greater suffering. ...

Astrological Correspondence: Third decan Gemini. A good intellect,mental stability and balance are the gifts of this decan. You have the power of concentration, and you very likely will pursue a career in science. You could pioneer in electronics or in eneergy production. Your abilility to judge human nature without prejudice or bias is a valuable asset in your business and social life.

That's it in a nutshell. I have drawn several conclusions from this info, and I think you all will be able to do so too. Seems nothing is a coincidence... I found a lot of information about the lion-headed goddesses of Egypt, which I will post later. They are very interesting, but I don't know if the Sphinx is meant to represent one or more of them or not, because of the "reversal" - lion's body and woman's head versus lion's head and woman's body. Or is this an "identity" like in math?

Two of my posts have disappeared into the ether of cyberspace... I see Alice visited us. She was kind enough to send me some info on the numbers 64, 10 and 1. She already quoted in her last post some of the info about 10, here is some interesting stuff about 64 (this is related as a personal number vibration, so you will have to abstract to The Game):

A 64/1 is extremely individualistic and often remains single. However, your magnetic personality, tolerance, liberal views and charitable ways draw joy and affection into your life. You are especially effective with groups... You are intuitive and a good judge of human nature. Your keen intellectual perceptions will serve you well if you decide on a literary career, or decide to become a professor or public speaker. Professional work is better for you than efforts in the commercial field. ... Your will to win comes from your strong positive attitude and determination to let nothing get you down.

Scientific and spiritual matters interest you. Once you have awakened the life force or kundalini, within you and accepted the true nature of reality, which is change, you will have the powers to overcome all negative forces.

A negative 64/1 suffers many losses and failures. You cling desparately to the material world of fear. Because you hang on, each loss brings greater suffering. ...

Astrological Correspondence: Third decan Gemini. A good intellect,mental stability and balance are the gifts of this decan. You have the power of concentration, and you very likely will pursue a career in science. You could pioneer in electronics or in eneergy production. Your abilility to judge human nature without prejudice or bias is a valuable asset in your business and social life.

That's it in a nutshell. I have drawn several conclusions from this info, and I think you all will be able to do so too. Seems nothing is a coincidence... I found a lot of information about the lion-headed goddesses of Egypt, which I will post later. They are very interesting, but I don't know if the Sphinx is meant to represent one or more of them or not, because of the "reversal" - lion's body and woman's head versus lion's head and woman's body. Or is this an "identity" like in math?

Georgia, that is fascinating about the crystals. I was reading about Mu, last night I think, and the article indicated that the natives, who knew a great cataclysm was coming, spent 1,000 years more or less gathering and storing on crystals all of the information in the world, and then burying the crystals deep underground where they would not be affected by the flood waters. According to this legend, the people of Mu went underground at the right time and thus did not get swept away in the flood. After a year or so underground, the ascended to the surface, and thus arises the beginning of the "myths" of many of our native americans, who believe they "arose out of the ground". Unfortunately, there was next to no information available on the net (after an admittedly cursory search) about Lemuria, but lots about Atlantis. However, the two civilizations seem to have been just about opposite each other as far as "temperament", if not achievements! Info on Egyptian goddesses:

Neith (Nit, Neit, Net) - one of the oldest goddesses, she predates the combined kingdoms of the north and south, shown depicted wearing the crown of the north and holding either a sceptre or bow and two arrows; for this reason, she is believed to have been a goddess of war. She was self-produced and the Egyptians believed she was of both a masculine and feminine nature. It is said she gavem birth to Re. In upper Egypt, she was protrayed with the head of a lioness. Symbols: bows and arrows, shields and weapons, Red Crown, weaving shuttle.

Next in time appears to be Mut. Her name means mother and the Egyptians regard her in many ways as the great world mother and mother of the pharoahs. She is also a self-created goddess. She is usually protrayed as a woman wearing the united crowns (Double Crowns) of the North and the South. Some portraits depic Mut with the heads of a man, a woman, a vulture and a lioness. She has aphallus, a pair of wings and the claws of a lion. Symbols: Double Crown, vulture, cobra, lioness, queen.

Next up, Hathor (Hethert, Athyr): the horned cow-goddess of love, also the diety of happiness, dance andmusic, and a protector of women, particularly pregnant woman. However, before this incarnation, she was Sekhmet, created by Re, her father, to wreak punishment on disobedient mankind. Later, Re changed his mind, but even he could not stop her from killing men. He then disguised beer as blood and when Sekhmet became drunk, she could no longer kill and was known thereafter as Hathor, a goddess of love. [Adds new meaning to the phrase "make love, not war"]. Hathor is depicted as a cow, a woman with the head of a cow, or a woman wearing a crown with stylized cown-horns which hold in them a solar disk. Early in Egyptian mythology, she was known as Horus' mother [Phil, a connection to the missing statue of Horus that stood in front of the Sphinx?]; later Isis assumed this role. "Hathor" means the "house of Horus". As the mother of Horus, the queen of Egypt was identified with her. This was natural, as the queen was the mother of the Pharoah, the living Horus. Isis was often shown with cown-horns like Hathor's on her head when the artist wanted to emphasize her role as the mother of Horus. Symbols: cown, lioness, falcon, cobra, hippopotamus, sistrum (a kind of rattle), musical instruments, drums, pregnant women, mirrors, cosmetics.

Sekhmet (Sekhet, Sakhmet, Nesert): ("Powerful Female") - The lioness-headed goddess of war and destruction. The sister and wife of Ptah, created by the fire of Re's eye as a weapon of vengence to destroy men for their wicked ways and disobedience to him. Truly fearsome, the Egyptian people developed an elaborate ritual involving priests saying prayers to 700 statues of the goddess every morning and afternoon every single day of the year! She is generally portrayed as a woman with the head of a lioness surmounted by the solar disk and the uraeus. she is identified with the goddess Bastet, and they were called the Goddesses of the West and the East (Bastet). Both were shown with the heads of lionesses although Bastet was said to wear green, while Sekhmet wore red. Symbols: lioness, cobra, Udjat (Eye of Horus).

Bastet: Usually represented as a woman with the head of a domesticated cat. However, up until about 1000 BCE she was portrayed as a lioness. Another daugher of Re, the sun god. When shown as a lioness, she is associated with sunlight. Bastet was the goddess of fire, cats, of the home and pregnant women. According to one myth, she is the personification of the soul of Isis. She is called the lady of the East. Her counterpart, Sekhmet, is called Lady of the West. Bastet seemed to have two sides to her personality, docile and agressive. Her chief festivals were celebrated in April and May. Herodotus gives a description of part of the celebration (that I won't go into) which sounds a lot like the Dionysian revels! Symbols: cat, lioness, sistrum (the rattle again), Udjat (Eye of Horus).

All of these goddesses seem to be counterparts of each other or, at the very least, connected to each other. Notice the duality of Bastet and Sekhmet, the different colors and titles they have - like the two sides of a chess game! Notice the connection of these goddesses to warfare, as well as to the more feminine aspects of life such as music and childbearing (the queen, protective and nurturing of the king, aggressive and deadly to those who would mess with her man). Finally, there is the definite connection to Horus.

Just a thought, perhaps it has come up previously in our discussion, but I don't remember: the octahedral shape that Georgia mentioned (crystals), two pyramids glued together at the base. Do you suppose the adage "as above, so below", would apply to Giza? I mean, could there possibly be pyramids below the surface that mirror the ones on the surface?

Okay, my last post today. I was curious about Georgia's 9 minerals/elements and so, after exhaustive research and mental endeavor, I tracked down and added up the atomic weights of each of the 9. The weights, in order are: Diamond 12.0112

Iron 55.8457

Fluorite 78.0768

Spinel 142.2726

Hematite 159.6922

Gold 196.9665

Chromite 223.8366

Magnetite 231.5386

Franlinite 461.8406

Total: 1550.0696

When I added up the numbers in the total, it came out to 32! Half above, half below???

Sorry I could not get the html posted to this message board to work for the chessboard with the 3 pyramids on it. It was real aggravation and I finally gave up. It looks nice but for some reason this message board could not process it.

Welcome Alice you are our 10th. You have brought lots of 10s with you. Your post number 343 adds up to 10. And your post has lots of 10s. # 10 Tarot card, Wheel of Forutune, the Goddess Fortuna makes her appearance.

Jan, I am glad you picked up on, the same as above and below, I have been thinking, for a long time, about mirrored pyramids, I sure would like to find out if they exist.

Pythagoras studied in Egypt and started his own school based on what he learned there. One of the things that were taught in his school was equality of the sexes. In fact his wife continued to lead the school after his death. I have a feeling Pythagoras would have liked our weaving.

LOVE

G

May Manna Always be with You.

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