The Weave Posts 701- 750
     
Jan Newton - 07:38pm May 2, 1999 MST (#701 of 701)

'Sis, I know that "mother" look, LOL! Got it plenty of times especially during my teen years. Must be something instinctive that comes to a woman once she has children of her own. I tried practicing "that look" many times in the mirror and could not master it, but then I am not a mother.

Just wondering, a sudden thought - in the Great Pyramid, would what is called the "King's Chamber" also be centered (looking downward from the imaginery center of the pyramid) over the 4 center (mother) squares?

Made a mistake in my prior post. I thought "Keats" was Raymond Keene, but he is not. I will find out from Ricardo who Keats is.

Jan Newton - 04:49am May 3, 1999 MST (#702 of 734)

Alice, good information. It makes sense that the 81 would be the last number on the sacred triangle; the number not only represents the 8 (chess' number) and the 1 (each player's number), but also sums to 9, Gaunt's number for completion and perfection. The fork in the road is where we would pause and decide which path to take (those of us with out a good map, that is!).

Triangles are interesting creatures. I have been learning about them from Schneider. It is the only geometric form that contains the largest perimeter while simultaneously containing the smallest volume, just the opposite of the circle. It is therefore the strongest shape in nature and this characteristic is used by engineers and architects in buildings since ancient times.

I am wondering if Iskundree is anything like Rithmomachia. Gerhard sent me some information on Rithmomachia sometime back, and I have been trying to find out more about it, but all I can come up with is that it was a game created by Sir Francis Bacon in the middle ages to teach mathematics and military strategy to wealthy lordlings. Well, if that is so, why was a Rithomachia game board and pieces apparently found in a bronze age grave at Shar-i Sohtka (western central asia (modern day Afghanistan), southeast of the Caspian Sea, almost due west of the Indus Valley and almost due south of the Aral Sea (containing the island called the Land of No Return). Argghh! This is so frustrating. Not enough time to research.

Mark Borcherding - 06:11am May 3, 1999 MST (#703 of 734)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Jan ref 703 another thing intersting about triangles ... they are related to the "diagonals" on cubes
and other geometeric shapes. An equilateral triangle has "3" 60 degree angles 60+60+60 = 180
so two of these triangles 180+180 = 360 degrees. One triangle would be male and the other female.
Just like the white and black squares on the Chess board. If we build a 3 sided pyramid out of triangles
we get a tetrahedron with 1 top and  3 base points. Like the moves of a Knight 3 then that
"1" 90 degree turn "up" to the capstone. Recall the relation to the chromosomes XX XY each can form
the 4 outer points  of the tetrahedron. In a universe that would mirror ours this would be YY YX and this
also forms a  tetrahedron. Note we now have 2 tetrahedrons one female X capstone and one male Y capstone
 
X
Y Y Y
Y
X X X		 Y
X X X
Y Y Y
X

The green symbolizes Earth (Goddess) where the Female mirror universe with the X capstone that is being
connected to our Male universe with the Y capstone. Recall our 4 center squares in the Chess board?
If there is a second chess board where the colors are mirrored then there would be 8 center squares like
the XY YY + XX XY above. Recall our number 8 in these discussions?

What happens when these 8 combine in equality and harmony into 1?   See the 81 or the 18?

Jan Newton - 08:51am May 3, 1999 MST (#704 of 734)

Yes, Holmes, quite right! Out of the union of two right triangles cut in the square comes 360 degrees, the circle, representing wholness and completion, the Monad, that out of which all things come forth.

I have constructed a tetrahedron for contemplative purposes (required by Schneider in his chapter on the number four). I felt once again 8 years old, with my construction paper, pencil, magic Xena compass, scissors and Modgepodge glue! Amazing how both it and the square arise out of the Vesica Piscis.

Now, where are the 81 and 18 in the mirrored four squares of the Chessboard? I am myopic, Holmes. All I see is the following result from combining the 8 squares one atop the other: XX; YX; YX; and YY. Since I don't believe there is a chromosonal combination YY, that leaves XX (female) and two YX's (male)! I like that ratio, two boys for every girl, YES!

I flipped one string around and didn't like the result at all: YX; YX; YX; and XY! All males. That would be a boring world, what?

Mark Borcherding - 09:24am May 3, 1999 MST (#705 of 734)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Jan,  you are -not- myopic if you were then you would not being playing with that Xena-compass
and other cool toys having such fun.

> "Now, where are the 81 and 18 in the mirrored four squares of the Chessboard?"
>

4 squares + 4 mirror squares + 1 (unity) = 9 = 1+8 = 18 mirrored = 81

Notice our infamous 1 4 4 has appeared again and watch our Knight chess moves.
 
Y
XXX		 X
YYY		 v X
YYY
XXX
Y
4
female
  
Y
X X X

 

4
male
  
X
Y Y Y

 

1
unity
  
X X X
Y  1 X
Y Y Y


Don McLean - 09:38am May 3, 1999 MST (#706 of 734)

Pony boy carry me home...

Pant, pant... Rounding the final turn (#634) and heading for the finish line - but it keeps moving a little farther away with each passing day!

Mark Borcherding - 09:52am May 3, 1999 MST (#707 of 734)
dare to dream upon your own star

Jan I reread your post 705 and what I was trying to show thru the Knight's movement overlaid with the XX XY chromosome pairing how the "Y" chromosome connects this universe to a mirror universe. Ironic is it not that the Human Males have the XY chromosome pairing thus carrying a link to the Goddess. I love such paradox! Where you see an anomoly it always warrants closer attention.

But recall we have another universe of the "Goddess" mirroring our own and what links does it have?

In that "Goddess" universe you would have YY YX the mirror of our universe's XX XY?

In that universe YX is female and mirrors the XY male in our universe. These YX XY links between universes may also represent our 4 "center" chess sqaures again.

Thus the game of Chess thru the movement of the Knight and it's 90 degree turn show how to connect with the universe of the Goddess. Why the "Knights Templar" are called such and why they had such high regard for the Goddess.

"As Above ... So Below"

Jan Newton - 11:04am May 3, 1999 MST (#708 of 734)

Arrrrggghhhhh, Holmes! Yes, I am yet myopic. The four squares, mirrored, were there right under my metaphysical nose, and I didn't even see them! I was too busy imagining the dance of the chromosomes, and procreation that leads to the dance of the chromosomes, and all those wonderful things that happen leading up to procreation that leads to the dance of the chromosomes, de yada de yada! "Knight" moves, darlings, LOL! Slap my face, oooooh!

Ahem, I am once again back to my normal staid, conservative self. Mark, the human males having the XY chromosome isn't ironic if seen from the right (goddess) viewpoint. It only seems so because the patriarchy has put their own particular spin on the matter, stating that woman was taken out of man. However, if you reverse the process and take the man out of the woman, it makes perfect sense. The goddess was here first, after all, it is only logical that she created woman in her image, and then the man was taken out of the woman. That is why there are so many more X's than Y's, a truism that is reflected today in the population as a whole. This answers Georgia's riddle from awhile ago, which came first, the hen or the egg? It was the egg, and out of the egg came the rooster with all his crowing and strutting his stuff around the barnyard, and the world hasn't been the same since!

Interesting observation about the Knights Templar. They were accused of all kinds of things before they were hunted down by the MIV and allegedly exterminated, including performing magic and sorcery. Could it be that they were trying to reintroduce into the world through magic the goddess element, to put the rampaging rooster back in check?

And were they successful?

Jan Newton - 11:14am May 3, 1999 MST (#709 of 734)

Xena is on a tear here, folks. But I promise I will not post anymore this afternoon, unless divine inspiration strikes like a bolt of lightening from Zeus.

It is my very great pleasure to introduce you to Don "De Lion" Mc Lean, who is headed toward the home stretch even as I write this message. He has given me permission to quote the following, by way of introduction:

"I find that the game, as some have interpreted it through numerology, relates directly to 'octonion matrix modules' - a concept I belatedly discovered through Tony Smith's (now defunct?) web site. That diamond pattern seems to be everywhere! Nonetheless, there is something oracular in the mathematics of chess which draws me out.

"More immediately and personally, though no great mathematician or chess player, I am all about aces and eights and the regenerative outcome of supraluminal processes implicitly woven into the fabric of an overarching destiny. A footloose knight, I have been self-ordained by my own personal Sophia to scour the planet in search of mystery strategems concealed within the magical matter of pawn surpirses and promotions.

"Detecting some royalty moving about the chess bulletin board, I therefore genuflect and swear fidelity to its coats of arms, secure in the knowledge that all assembled in this court appear variously engaged in the recovery of realms primordial and the concurrent re-establishment of balance upon the shared throne of enlightened sovereignty. Noblesse oblige."

De Lion has been duly introduced. May we have a rousing round of applause, please! Ooohhh, I love it when a man talks "dirty"!

Mark Borcherding - 11:44am May 3, 1999 MST (#710 of 734)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Jan don't become too conservative it is the child within that dances and plays.
That is all I do is play with the info, numbers, colors, and patterns and see
what they have to teach me.

Look at what the letters X and Y symbolic of the chromosomes have to show us.

X has 5 points ... 4 on the ends and 1 center
Y has 4 points ... 3 on the ends and 1 center

o    o              o      o
   o                    o
o    o                  o

With 1 center we can do this note how the female/male connect thru the 1:
(XX)(XY)=(5+4+(1)+4+4)=18 
In number the following words "Love" , "Chess", "Venus" = 18

The people that hunted down the Knights Templar were probably the sames ones who burned the
so called witches and warlocks (actually healers). All true magic directs its energy into transformation
using the power of  L o v e.

Philip Mistlberger - 12:00pm May 3, 1999 MST (#711 of 734)

If I recall my research rightly, the Knights Templar were frequently depicted as convening over a black and white checkered floor, the pattern of which was consistent with ancient Mason-architecture, Pythagoras, and the floor of the Hall of Judgment over which Maat/Thoth presided. Id est, a giant chessboard.

However, in later years, the Knights Templar grew fat and powerful (and perhaps a tad corrupt), and were thus duly sent packing by the fatter, corrupter, yet more powerful Men In Tights.

Don McLean - 05:02pm May 3, 1999 MST (#712 of 734)

When whippoorwills call, and evening is night I hurry to my blue heaven. A turn to the right, a little white light - Will lead me to my blue heaven

J'arrive! J'arrive! Ahem. Have been advised by counsel to give vital stats and deliver these to the appropriate officers, who may re-post same under the conventions already outlined in this folder.

Name: Donald Alexander McLean (a.k.a. Don de Lion) anglicism for fr."dentsdelion". D.O.B: April 11, 1951 10:25 a.m. Port of entry: Montreal, Canada

Thanks for that wonderful fanfare of introduction Xena. Will try to do justice to the impressive diversity here at Serf City. Just the facts - for now. Exhausting run for the roses. This folder has legs! Have picked up several bulky items along the way. Must rest for the night.

a bientot Don

Jan Newton - 06:47pm May 3, 1999 MST (#713 of 734)

LOL, darling De Lion! I had done a most impressive, albiet x-rated post, to you, and in my excitement whilst listening to the God, Robert Palmer, sing "Some Like It Hot", hit a wrong button and it got sent into the ether, there to tantalize the gods forever! LOL, just what one would expect from MOI, n'est ce pas?

Welcome! Enjoy yourself! I know you will!

John Fiorentino - 06:55pm May 3, 1999 MST (#714 of 734)

Jan Newton - 05:48pm May 2, 1999 MST (#698 of 712)

Eek! Can you imagine constructing a 9 by 9 magic square!
Ok. Here is the 9x9 magic square. The construction of this odd-numbered magic square is one of the simplest I could remember. Of course there are other ways of constructing them, but I have no desire at this time to go back to my notes.

47 58 69 80 1 12 23 34 45

57 68 79 9 11 22 33 44 46

67 78 8 10 21 32 43 54 56

77 7 18 20 31 42 53 55 66

6 17 19 30 41 52 63 65 76

16 27 29 40 51 62 64 75 5

26 28 39 50 61 72 74 4 15

36 38 49 60 71 73 3 14 25

37 48 59 70 81 2 13 24 35

Each diagonal, column and row should add to 369 n(n^2+1)/2 where n=size of square.

If my memory serves me right the method I used to construct this magic square is called the "wrap-around" method and it may have something to do with elliptic curves (aka modular forms) and Fermat's Last Theorem which has been proved by Prof. Andrew Wiles of Princeton University.

Now let's look at some of the properties of this magic square. Note that the sum of the digits of the total (369) adds to 18 (3+6+9 = 18). And, the sum of the digits 18 add back to 9 (1+8 =9), the size of our original square.

Now, the sum....what the hech I'm no mathematician. But you do get the picture. If you rotate the square along its diagonal, middle column or middle row axis you will get a new magic square. The fun part with magic square is to play around with them (be prepared to spend lots of time) and to find patterns.

I also hear that the mathematics of magic square are used in modems.

PS: sorry I couldn't get it to appear in the shape of a square.

Mark Borcherding - 07:23pm May 3, 1999 MST (#715 of 734)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Regarding the Knights Templar:
Papal advisors suspected that the true mission of the Templars was to
merge Hermitic and Christian teachings. In 1307 Pope Clement ordered
the arrest of every Templar in every country. In 1314 the final "Grand Master"
of the Templars "Jacques de Molay" was burned at the stake.  The church fathers
saw the Hermetic representing feminine consciousness that could undermine their
authority. Anything feminine was suspect! Women and Men who dealt with healing,
herbs, and being close to Earth were suspect and vulnerable to burning. The Knight is
also the only chess piece which has two parts Rider & Horse. And look at where the
Knight starts on the chess board between the Rook & Bishop. Both the Rook and Bishop
have the power to move the entire 8 squares one straight and the the other diagonally.
The Knight however moves both straight and diagonally. Because it is the Warrior that
has integrated both male and female aspects into One. The Knight can also move over
or thru another piece.

Look at the Cross and see the movement of the Knight chess piece and notice that
the alpha or omega move takes that 90° degree turn that only the Knight can do.


.
4 3 4
2
1

Alpha - Earth to Heaven

.
1 2 1
3
4

Omega - Heaven on Earth


Jan Newton - 08:09pm May 3, 1999 MST (#716 of 734)

Ohmygod, John, DARLING! Where have you been for the past 550 plus posts? I am in love! Be sure, darling, that I will analyze your Magic Square to the "n'th" degree! And have some serious mathematical type questions to ask you! Bast and Xena are both sitting here next to my trusty new computer smiling and puuuuuurrrrrriiinnnngggggg...

Oooooohhhhh, I love it. Simply Irresistible, is The Game! The One, The Only, The Incomparable Goddess of All Time (By Whatever Name You May Choose To Call Her)...CHESS!

Jan Newton - 08:42pm May 3, 1999 MST (#717 of 734)

Holmes! You are positively inspired! My hat is off to you, My Mentor of All Things Mathematical! I am now, yet again, rocking out to Robert Palmer's "Addicted to Love"! LOL, darlings! Addicted to Chess! Remember the Immortal Formula! Love = 18 = Chess!

Ahem. Yes, back to subject. Holmes, regarding your synopsis of history regarding the Knights Templar, yes, Yes, YES!!! Ohmygoodness! Doctor, doctor, give me the news, I got a bad case of loving you...

OOOOOHHH!

Ahem... Back, yet again, to subject. Holmes, as I was saying, ahem. Yes, where was I?

Oh yes, the Knightess! Integrating aspects of both Female and Male in her move! The mighty Xena, Warrior Princess, with Her Magic Compass, Come To Do Battle With the Forces of Evil! Er, well, darlings, LOL!

Holmes, 'tis true! The Knight(ess) incorporates mathematical aspects of the "mirror worlds". (S)He is the only piece to do so. We once again hear the mighty call of "Ekhos" (and Gerhard is on holiday, so he cannot e-mail MOI to scold MOI for getting off my research topic!!!) YES! Earth to Heaven, or, Heaven to Earth! You have got it Holmes, by God, you have GOT IT! Yes, YES, YESSSSSSSSS!!!! And all due to the humble auspices of "Ekhos".

I just love it, I simply love it, darlings, when a plan comes together!!! We are the A-TEAM!

Georgia Albert - 08:45pm May 3, 1999 MST (#718 of 734)

Welcome John, that was a great post. I liked the mentioning of Fermat's Last Theorem, I really enjoyed watching a program on PBS about Prof. Wiles and his proof, six years of secret reseach to get the proof, amazing.

Don, Bravo! You now hold the fastest offical speed reading time for the Weave. And you win an evening with any Goddess you choose. Now wave to the camera and say hello to MOM:) I am really glad you decided to join the party, you are alot of Fun.

We Goddesses sure are lucky to have such extrodinary Gods with us. I can imagine the Great Mother Goddess looking at this Weave and smiling with pride and happiness.

LOVE

G

May Manna Always be with You.

Jan Newton - 09:34pm May 3, 1999 MST (#719 of 734)

I must echo Isis's sentiments, whilst once again (one last time before beddy bye time for this hard working goddess) rocking out to the sounds of Robert Palmer's "Addicted to Love"!, Addictions I! Ooooohhhh! "Ohhhh, you like to think that you're immune to the stuff! Oh Yeah! Ooooooohhhh! Closer to the truth to say you can't get enough! You know, you might as well as face it (darlings!), you're addicted to love! [heavey bass here, big time! crank up the treble! ooooohhh!] Might as well face it, you're addicted to love!"

Good night, darlings, all!

John Fiorentino - 10:55pm May 3, 1999 MST (#720 of 734)

Hi Jan, Georgia et al,

speaking of chess boards, you just reminded me that there is, in the construction of magic sqaures, a pattern called a "night's move" which I believe, if my memory serves me right, is in the shape of an L. This pattern is often used in the construction of magic squares where n (size of the square) is a multiple of 4. And, if I'm not mistaken, (BTW, I don't know chess), the size of a chessboard is n = 8.

Moreover, magic squares that are multiple of 4 are among the most difficult squares to solve and usually with less possible solutions than the easier odd-numbered squares.

Mark Borcherding - 04:57am May 4, 1999 MST (#721 of 734)
dare to dream upon your own star

Here is John's 714 post again


47 58 69 80  1 12 23 34 45
57 68 79  9 11 22 33 44 46
67 78  8 10 21 32 43 54 56
77  7 18 20 31 42 53 55 66
 6 17 19 30 41 52 63 65 76
16 27 29 40 51 62 64 75  5
26 28 39 50 61 72 74  4  15
36 38 49 60 71 73  3 14 25
37 48 59 70 81 2 13 24 35

Mark Borcherding - 05:22am May 4, 1999 MST (#722 of 734)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Jan ... I like that ... Knightess. The Knightess of the Templars would have been
the Black Madonna. Notice she is black like the black chess squares and represents
the primordial void ... the cave ... the place of birth.

"Black Madonna" = 37 (9 numerology) and in Bonnie Gaunt's book it talks about that
being the number of Hydrogen the 1st element of matter used for birth of stars. As Aliester Crowley said "Every Man, Woman, Child is a Star"

"As Above so Below ... As Below so Above"

       Knight      Horse                Horse        Knightess

Recall I posted earlier about the Horse with 8 legs in various countries according
to shamanic traditions.  Here we see the 8 legs because in our mirror universe the
Knightess is also riding a horse.

"As Above so Below ... As Below so Above" = 96 in number

9 = light of male/female
6 = matter of male/female

We have 46 chomosomes 44+2 (XX or XY) and what if we change that +2 to a +4 again symbolic of the 4 sqaures in the center of the chess board or the 4 squares of the Knight/Knightess.

(44+4) + (44+4) = 48 + 48 = 96 = "As Above so Below ... As Below so Above"

Now we take the 44+4 and do this 4x4x4 = 64 our chess board but of course there is a second 4x4x4 chess board of our mirror universe which reflects the Knightess or Goddess within us All.

Don McLean - 09:44am May 4, 1999 MST (#723 of 734)

"You'll see a smiling face, a fireplace, a cozy room

A little nest that nestles where the roses bloom

Just Molly and me, and baby makes three

We’re happy in my blue heaven..."

Any Goddess Georgia? Oooh I hesitate to say which one for fear I might offend the others... and we know all too well that hell hath no fury...

I might agree to an evening on the town with any one of them - providing of course I can bring along my pet dragon. Fierce looking - but knows stuff! A pussycat really. Feed it and it will either fight or purr. Most of the time you don't even notice that it's there. Has a moist but cuddly nature and gets me kicked out of alot of places. Can't take it to church for instance. No matter, I stopped going years ago. Places that discriminate against dragons seem to be the same ones discriminating against the Goddess. Don't know why this thing attached itself to me. It likes to spin - chases its tail - makes figure eights in the air. Angel or Archon? Perhaps it all depends on which side of the chess board one is sitting.

This dragon likes Clifford Algebra. Gibberish, slithy, brillig to my non-mathematical mind - but maybe Mark can make something out of it. It's a geometric 8 dimensional method of calculation that eventually connects with the new post-quantum physics in some important way. Spinning left - spinning right - twin spin. These days, light beings Michu Kaku, David Bohm, Jack Sarfatti et al tend to take the game of chess deep into the ozone where I suspect Feynman and God are playing the same game from two separate locations in quantum non-localized space time. Only a few people seem to know the rules...

God does not play dice... The explicate move has many implicate possibilties. Chess may well be a worldly analogy for the hyperspatial, multidimensional puzzle of existence. This connects in turn to the alchemical strivings that have been discredited by the MIV since Hermes showed up with his dragon - many moon ago.

Jan Newton - 10:42am May 4, 1999 MST (#724 of 734)

John, you have constructed a marvelously elegant Order 9 Magic Square. I have only been playing with it for a little while and it has already revealed some very interesting secrets to me, but then, I am the confidant type! (Or else people are afraid of my magical Xena compass).

I quartered the Square along the vertical and horizontal axes. Interestingly, the patterns in the numbers mirror each other on the diagonal, and in the opposite direction! It is really cool!

Observe: numbers from the first outside row of the NW quadrant are 47, 57, 67, and 77. Each 10 apart.

Numbers from the first outside row of the SE quadrant are 5, 15, 25, 35. Each 10 apart.

It gets more interesting when you move to the second row in. Numbers in the NW quadrant are 58, 68, 78 and 7. The pattern is 10, 10, 71.

Numbers in the SE quadrant are 75, 4, 14, 24. The pattern is 71, 10, 10.

Moving in to the third row, Numbers in the NW quadrant are 69, 79, 8, 18. The pattern is 10, 71, 10.

Numbers in the SE quadrant are 64, 74, 3, 13. The pattern is 10, 71, 10.

Numbers in the fourth row NW quadrant are 80, 9, 10, 20. The pattern is 71, 10, 10.

Numbers in the SE quadrant are 62, 72, 73 and 2. The pattern is 10, 10, 71.

Got to run, hope to post more later tonight. I sure hope there aren't any typos in the above!

Mark, notice all the "10"s, tons of Alphas and Omegas. And look at the vertical axis, bottom number: 81! LOL!

Mark Borcherding - 11:20am May 4, 1999 MST (#725 of 734)
dare to dream upon your own star

Ref 723 Don ... I know what you mean I am not a math wiz either. I like simple numerology and symbols that can be used like crayons. I think Hermes actually had two dragons on his staff. The Dragons could be male & female then the staff could be the same symbology as the "cosmic tree". Note one of those dragons is spinning left the other spins right around the staff. "As above so below & As below so Above".

The word "dragon" in number = 32 thus if we have two dragons the 32+32=64 chess squares. The Knight(ess) is the dragonslayer ... slaying the dragons within oneself and what did the Knight(ess) carry? jousting pole (staff).

Jan-xena ... I bet you were happy with All those 1 & 0's

"Alpha Omega" = 43 = "Jesus Christ" we see that Jesus appears to have combined male and female aspects in equality. After all he did say "look inside yourself" and "to enter Heaven as a child". What happens when you combine your inner male & female?

Birth of the Child

"child spirit" = 64

Philip Mistlberger - 12:15pm May 4, 1999 MST (#726 of 734)

The primary Magic Squares all correspond to the seven "planets" of the ancients, as determined from the Hebrew Qabalah. Essentially, they are as follows:

3X3 = Saturn (Chronos) 4X4 = Jupiter (Zeus) 5X5 = Mars (Aries) 6X6 = Sun (Apollo, and others) 7X7 = Venus (Aphrodite) 8X8 = Mercury (Hermes) 9X9 = Moon (Diana, and many others)

Actually, according to Hulse these numbers he gives for the 9X9 Moon square are different, I'll post them later when I have more time. However, the Moon's general archetypal and occult associations are The High Priestess, silver, loss of control (spontaneity), and the pure reflection of the soul's light. The Moon of course is also linked to Thoth and Maat, and Graves' work delves into it under the umbrella of the "White Goddess". Thoth is linked directly to Hermes/Mercury, and yet, strangely, Thoth is a Moon god. Thus, there is a direct link between the Moon and chess, as the 8X8 magick square is that of Mercury/Hermes/Thoth.

What is so striking about the contrast between "modern chess", with its foundation of calculation, competition, and warfare, and the Moon archetype, with its lunacy, feelings tones, and spontaneous irrationality, is its complete and utter diametric opposition. Suggests that something has indeed been missing -- or was removed. A good metaphor for the emergence of patriarchal colonialism.

Monsieur Di Lion, I have indeed received the raw material for your astrological particulars. Will post later when old man Chronos smiles on me and bestows more time.

If your pet dragon spins figure eights in the air, it must be an incarnation of the Golden Dawn Magician, weaving his musings endlessly under the symbol for infinity....

Mark Borcherding - 02:38pm May 4, 1999 MST (#727 of 734)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Philip your post made me think of doing the following ... we have talked of this
9x9 square and the 8x8 Chess square. I wonder what happens when combined?

8x8 + 9x9 = 64 + 81 46 + 18 = 64    Wow! we got our 64 back again

Hmmmm... I wonder what happens if we add it all together:

64 + 46 + 81 + 18 = 209

Now 209 is only significant to me because it so happens in the Mayan calendar
Kin 209 is called "1 Muluc" or "1 Moon" and this seems to connect with Philip's
writing on Thoth & Moon. The Moon glyph is the 9th glyph of the 20 mayan solar glyphs.


The Moon glyph is one of the two mayan glyphs of the planet Mercury.

White
Castle
north
Blue Castle
west		 Green Castle
center		 Red 
Castle
east
Yellow Castle
south
In the Mayan:Plieadean system there are 260 kin total (5x52) the 52 day sequences are called Castles and there are five of them as shown to the left here. 

Kin 209 is the first kin in the Green Castle thus this kin is the entry or doorway into the "Green Castle of Enchantment". 
Good place for the Goddess.

 

Jan Newton - 05:45pm May 4, 1999 MST (#728 of 734)

My goodness, gods, we are zipping along here! I hardly know where to begin!

John, back to your wonderful 9 Magic Square! Note the diagonals: from NW to SE: 47,68,8,20,41,62,74,14,35. The "pattern" is: 21,60,12,21,21,12,60,21.

Diagonal from the NE to the SW: 45,44,43,42,41,40,39,38,37. That one is easy enough to figure out, LOL! Tres cool, darling!

Some further very interesting aspects of this Magical Square showed up when I looked at the horizontal rows. Numbering the horizontals from top to bottom 1 through 9:

Rows 1 and 9 mirror each other: The pattern is 11,11,11,79,11,11,11.

Rows 2 and 8 mirror each other: The pattern is 11,11,70,2,11,11,11,2.

Rows 4 and 6 mirror each other: The pattern is 11,2,11,11,11,2,11,70.

Rows 3 and 7 mirror each other: The pattern is 11,70,2,11,11,11,11,2.

Row 5 is very special. It's pattern is: 11,2,11,11,11,11,2,11.

John, Philip posted Thoth's magical square some time back, an 8x8, which, based on my admittedly inexpert calculations, is a Pan Magic Square.

And yes, you are absolutely right, 8x8 is the chessboard.

I won't bore you, darlings, any further, with my numerical analysis of John's 9 Order Magic Square by going into excrutiating detail of the NE and SW quadrants!

Paul Bilyeu - 05:47pm May 4, 1999 MST (#729 of 734)
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Magick Squares........Abramelin. Just don't leave them/it where animals can get at it.......

Jan Newton - 06:17pm May 4, 1999 MST (#730 of 734)

Mark, re post 722, I like the "Black Madonna" as the Knightess! Is she a great-grandmother to the 29th power of the Borg Queen? LOL!

Her 37 value is interesting not only because it reflects the physical constant of hydrogen (1.373737... to infinity) of hydrogen, but also because it sums to "10", or 1+0, the Alpha and Omega. Thus, we once again see a representation of the goddess being the "Beginning and the End", or the circle, that which never ends, the Monad! And you thought I was just joshing about the circle with the dot in the middle being a woman's breast! LOL!

I don't know if it was noted, but also, with respect to your:

9 = light of male/female; 6 = matter of male/female. The 9 and the 6 are just upside down versions of each other!

deLion, you are obviously settling right in (post 723), continuing to sing "My Blue Heaven"! Does your dragon have a name? How about "Fearless Leader"?

Never heard about Clifford Algebra. I thought Michu Kaku was a remedy for nausea! Sorry, darling! I'll stick to Michael Schneider's book on sacred geometry for dummies 101!

You are right on that Chess is a worldly analogy for "the hyperspatial, multidimensional puzzle of existence"; there is no "may" about it!

Pant, pant, pant.... More to follow, when I catch my breath and get a glass of wine...

Jan Newton - 06:25pm May 4, 1999 MST (#731 of 734)

Sir Paul! Where have you been? What have you been about? Oh well, darling, I'm just glad you decided to visit again. Who, or what, is an "Abramelin"? I promise not to talk in Latin if you promise not to talk in German!

Jan Newton - 06:44pm May 4, 1999 MST (#732 of 734)

Holmes, regarding post 727, your equation of the 8's and the 9's could be reduced to:

(64 = 6+4 = 10) + (81 = 8+1 = 9); 10 + 9 =19 = 1+9 = 10 = 1+0! Behold, yet again, the Alpha and Omega!

There has been some speculation among Chess Historians (a sacred profession, therefore, I capitalize) that The Game originated on a 9x9 board, because some of It's alleged predecessors were played on a 9x9 board.

Hmmmmmm, perhaps. But I don't buy it. I am more inclined to believe that once The Game came off the Ark and wended its way through the lands with the peoples, two separate and yet related versions arose, one using 9 squares and one using the original goddess number, 8 squares. A "degeneration" of The Game, as it were. That may very well, in part, account for the dichotomy Philip noted in his post 726. What else could explain two such diametrically opposed metaphysical connections of The Game? The more interesting question, to my mind, is whether the dichotomy arose out of deliberate manipulation. I believe, Yes. But how can this be proven?

Mark Borcherding - 07:03pm May 4, 1999 MST (#733 of 734)
dare to dream upon your own star

The 9 and the 6 are just upside down versions of each other!

I thought your Jan-xena warrioress eyes would catch that.  Also notice
that we take two 90 degree turns 90+90=180 to flip the 6 into the 9
or 9 into the 6. Recall these 90 degree turns with the Knight & Knightess.

"As Above so Below ... As Below so Above" = 96

If we add 96 with its mirror 69 <o-la-la> we get 165

64 + 37 + 64 = 165

I like the "Black Madonna" as the Knightess! Her 37 value is interesting not only because it reflects the physical constant of hydrogen (1.373737... to infinity)

The number 165 also has special significance to me as it is the exact number
of kin that I added  to the current 260 kin Mayan calendar  260 + 165 = 425
I recorded Dreamstar's "Book of Kin" with 17 tones & 25 glyphs (17 x 25 = 425)

Here is what the Dreamstar Book of Kin says about kin 37 & 64


Green Electric Joy , Kin 37
"I activate in order to rejoice
bonding soul
I seal the store of joy
with the Electric tone of service
I am guided by the power of purpose"		 Red Cosmic Moon , Kin 64
"I endure in order to purify
transcending flow
I seal the process of universal water
with the Cosmic tone of presence
I am guided by the power of space"


Jan Newton - 07:05pm May 4, 1999 MST (#734 of 734)

One last post for the evening, darlings! I have received another communique from Ricardo Calvo, one of the members of the IGK. He wishes me to post the following, under inspiration of a certain "Muse"!

"The kabbalist, mathematician and analyst of the Bible, Abraham ben Ezra (1089-1164), in his famous chess poem (see the English version in Murray), refers to the chess inventors as "men of insight", without mentioning either a country or a period of time. He doesn´t say anything about India, and a man of his erudition and so crtically minded would surely have cleared the relevant aspects of chess origins in by way of written evidence.

"His references are biblical and could be considered as codified: red pieces are seen as "Edomim" and the black men are the "Kuschnim". As one of the greatest authorities in biblical analysis, his choice of words must be borne in mind in the question of chess origins, because it seems to have been obtained in Muslim Spain or during his travels in northern Africa, Palestine, and later through Italy and France.

"The terms are somehow misleading Edom - the eldest son of Isaac - was betrayed by his brother Jacob into selling his hereditary rights in exchange for a dish of red beans. Edom, "The Red", gives the name of the land to his tribe, the Edomites, who occupied Palestine centuries before the arrival of the Israelites. It is located south of Moab, in the area to the south and west of the Dead Sea, which (in Greek and Roman times) was called Idumea.

"Several names of its Kings are quoted in Gen. 36, 31-33: Bela, son of Beor, and his succesor Jobab. (Because of this name, there is a rabbinic tradition that considers Job a rich Edomite, dating the book during the captivity in Egypt and even atributing its redaction to Moses, a theory rejected by modern scholars). Moses asked for permission to travel across their domain but the Edomites refused, which was the genesis of the bad relationship between the two peoples (lasting for centuries). During David´s reign, Joab slaugthered the Edomites and one of the survivors, Adad, is mentioned in I Kings, 11, 14 as a foe of Salomon, perhaps leading a guerrilla war. The seventh Davidic King, Joram, also fought against them. Edom was occupied around 800 BCE by the tenth Davidic king, Amasias (II Kings, 14, 7).

"Kush offers some difficulties. The second river of Paradise "is Gihon, which encircles the land of Chus" (Gen 2,13) and some interpretations refer to the Kassites as a tribe living eastwards from the Tigris with a period of splendour between 1600-1200 BCE. In Gen. 10, 6 Kush is mentioned as a son of Ham and therefore the black kushnim have traditionally been identified as Ethiopians (the river Gihon would then be the Nile), but the next verse states that the sons of Kush were Seba and Evila, clearly eponims of Arabic tribes. The land of Kush is not the actual Ethiopia, but rather, would be situated in northern Sudan. It was an Egyptian province for many centuries (Editor's note: I have tons of material on this, which I may post at a later date], with its capital in Nepata, near the actual Merowe in the upper Nile. Around 736 BCE, the locus of power reversed when Assyria destroyed Israel; the Ethiopians dominated some parts of the Nile delta. Their first contact with Israel occurs in II Kings, 17, 4,. Ethiopia had conquered southern Egypt and had created the XXV Dynasty; its King Oseas asked the Israelites for help against the Assyrians."

Chess History Fundamentals, darlings! LOL, you should have been the editor! I hope there are no spelling errors or typos, I am very tired. (Ricardo is translating to me from his native tongue, Spanish, and I am only doing a bit of cleaning up. Now I know how Moses felt). I guess I must bite the bullet and purchase my own copy of Murray.

Jan Newton - 04:26am May 5, 1999 MST (#735 of 755)

Mark, re your post 733, if we take the 9 and 6 energy here, with the two flips to make 180 degrees, and mirror that in the unseen world, we would again have our circle of 360 degrees, the Monad. By the by, I wasn't going to put the 9 and the 6 together in THAT way for the life of me, oh no no no, monsieur, and there you go and do it, o la la indeed! LOL!

While reading The White Goddess yesterday I ran across a reference to a crazy 8 dance in a particularly gruesome section describing the practice of killing a king every six months out of which the original legend of Heracles arose. I will post it later.

Paul Bilyeu - 05:01am May 5, 1999 MST (#736 of 755)
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Jan........Sorry.........just made it up out of various phonemes. Nonsensical disinformation, that's all. No such thing. Will confine any further efforts to legitimately constructive purposes. Internet abuse in the form of searching for the nonexistent shouldn't occur. Waste of bandwidth at the very least. At worst, dangerous and unproductive snipe hunts and wild goose chases.

Mark Borcherding - 05:37am May 5, 1999 MST (#737 of 755)
dare to dream upon your own star

Jan more on the 6 & 9 recall the Cube has 6 sides and 9 points (8 vertices + 1 center). I have read a book by Walter Russell called "The Secret of Light" and he made interesting outlook that the Black Cube was the feminine energy and the White Sphere was masuline energy. This seems to be the opposite of the way we normally think of the Cube and Sphere. He also states gravity is a feminine type force whereas radiation is a masculine force. From that perspective his Cube & Sphere concept would make sense. A Cube is a gravitated Sphere or a Sphere is a radiated Cube.

Note if we put the Sphere inside the Cube it will touch the center of the 6 sides + the 1 center giving us a 7. If we put the Cube inside the Sphere it will touch at the 8 vertices and the 1 center giving us a 9.

Now lets use the idea of gravity (-1) and radiation (+1) on the cube/sphere numbers:

7(+1) x 9(-1) = 64

Recall 7 is the Cube (gravity) + radiation (+1) = 8

Recall 9 is the Sphere (radiation) + gravity (-1) = 8

Jan Newton - 08:17am May 5, 1999 MST (#738 of 755)

Stonehenge and the Great Pyramid, Mark; remember squaring the circle and circling the square? Russell's analogy is apt. The square is a symbol of the goddess, representing The Weave.

Sir Paul, up to your Loki tricks again, are you? That's all right, I like unproductive snipe hunts; I engage in them in the law library all the time! If you want your curly hair curled even more, drop in later when I post about Heracles.

Jan Newton - 02:48pm May 5, 1999 MST (#739 of 755)

The Legend of Hercules (The REAL Skinny, Nothing Like What Is on T.V.)

All of the following information is from Graves' "The White Goddess".

We have run into a bloodthirsty form of the goddess in her Hera role. Heracles (Hercules) means "Glory of Hera"; in her earliest manifestation she was a death-goddess "who had charge of the souls of sacred kings and made oracular heroes of them". I won't go into all the details of Hercules' first appearance in legend and myth. Briefly, he is a "pastoral sacred king" with a twin, who serves as his first officer. He is male leader of all orgiastic rites and has twelve archer companions, including his twin. He performs a marriage with a queen of the woods (a representative of the goddess, usually a member of a priestess cult), and at mid-summer, at the end of a half-year reign, he is made drunk with mead and led into the middle of a circle of twelve stones arranged around an oak, in front of which stands an altar stone. The oak has been lopped until it is T-shaped. He is bound to it with willow thongs in the "five fold bond" which joins wrists, neck and ankles together, beaten by his comrades till he faints, then flayed, blinded, castrated, impaled with a mistletoe stake, and finally hacked into pieces on the altar stone.

His blood is caught in a basin and used for sprinklin the while tribe to make them vigorous and fruitful. The pieces of flesh are roasted at twin fires of oak-loppings. The 12 "merry men" rush in a wild figure of eight dance around the fires, singing ecstatically and tearing at the flesh with their deeth. The remains are burnt in the fire, except for the genitals and the head. These are put into an alderwood boat and floated down a river to an islet (remember my earlier references to "sacred islands", one such possibly being The Land of No Return in Lake Aral). However, sometimes the head is cured with smoke and preserved for oracular use (gives new meaning to the term "talking heads", n'est ce pas?). His twin succeeds him and reigns for the remainder of the year, when he is sacrifically killed by a new Hercules.

Later the cannibalism was abandoned and a system of child sacrifice was devised so that the king could reign for several years; the number 8 appears in this connection also. The reign would continue for 8 years, with a child sacrificed each year, and at the end of the 8th year the king would be sacrificed and a new king installed, to start the 8 year cycle over again The reign is fixed at 8 years apparently because at every hundredth lunar month occurs a rough approximation of lunar and solar times.

We know that child sacrifice was extensively practiced in Canaan (and no doubt other places as well); I have mentioned before that several of the Israelite kings sacrificed some of their own children to Chemosh (Melkarth) by throwing them into the fire; now I know the rationale behind such doings.

What I focused in on was the connection to the number 8 and the obvious connection with the goddess. In Katherine Neville's novel, The 8, she described a ceremony that consisted of people walking a path and stoping along the way in front of numerous objects --- I want to say this is a Stations of the Cross ceremony but I don't recall and this may not be right, the book is at home; my memory is telling me this ceremony takes place annually in Rome, but it may be Jerusalem. At any rate, the pattern traces an "8". I wonder if there is a connection. I will see if I can find the description of the ceremony in Neville's book and post about it.

Don McLean - 03:17pm May 5, 1999 MST (#740 of 755)

Sacre Bleu!

Mark Borcherding - 03:39pm May 5, 1999 MST (#741 of 755)
dare to dream upon your own star

Ref 739 ... Jan seems like one of the more difficult ways to join your male & female sides.

"Hercules" = 37 = "Black Madonna"

37 + 27 = 64

Recall 37 is the number for matter and 27 is the number for light.
Now watch the mirrors work their magic with light:

27 + (6+4) = 37

27 + (4+6) = 37

27 + 46 = 73 

(37 + 73) = 110 =  (46 + 64)

In the Dreamstar Book of Kin:

Yellow Galactic Seed : : kin 110
I harmonize in order to target
modeling awareness
I seal the input of flowering
with the galactic tone of integrity
I am guided by the power of elegance.


Jan Newton - 04:54pm May 5, 1999 MST (#742 of 755)

Mark, some women will stop at nothing to get a date.

I found the reference in The 8: I had the wrong city, it is in Venice this takes place on Easter morning at sunrise. It is an ancient ritual called "the Long March". Neville writes that Venice was founded by the Phoenicians, who worshipped the moon goddess, Car (we have spoken about her before). The procession starts at St. Mark's, crosses the Piazzetta and pauses at the "Place of Judgment", a wall decorated with biblical scenes of judgment, where heretics had been executed during the Inquisition. The procession follows a figure eight course. One of the stops is at a statue of Mercury aka Thoth aka Hermes. There are 16 stops in all. The 10th stop is at the Castello Wall, which is 12 feet thick, covered in multicolored stones. "The inscription, the oldest in Venetic, was translated for me by Casanova:

If a man could say and do what he thinks, He'd see how he might be transformed"

[Editorial note - I'm not certain what Neville means by inscription, I gather it is somehow spelled out by the multicolored stones]. In the center of the Wall is a white stone, which everyone intently stares at.

The narrator of this story goes on to tell the listener that he believed the ritual to be an encoded formula, the same formula encoded in the Montglane Service, a formula of infinite power. The narrator traces the tradition back to an island (hmmmmm, an island again), something called the Dark Isle, "the isle the Arabs first named Al-Djezair. The isle between two rivers, rivers that twist like Hermes' staff to form a figure eight - rivers that watered the cradel of manking. The Tigris and Euphrates...". The narrator traces the pattern to Mesopotamia!

Now, where have we heard of that country before, LOL!

Three things. First, is there such a ceremony called "the Long March" that takes place in Venice on Easter morn? Second, is there such a wall with such an inscription? Third, are there existing references to "The Dark Isle"?

Good night darlings, got to go and clean house now and play domestic goddess.

Georgia Albert - 11:08pm May 5, 1999 MST (#743 of 755)

Sacred Blue, I have a warm spot in my heart for the French.

Jan, how about a trip to Venice to do some research? Then we could stop off at the Pyramids and London OOoooooOO, a fantasy research trip.

I have been reading a book that Philip recomended, The Art of Sexual Magic by Margo Anand, a great read. This is a wonderful research book to be shared with someone you Love. In this book Margo explains that Shakti and Shiva joined together, with LOVE, and created the Universe. The Universe created of LOVE, Love makes the world go-round, Love makes the world go-round. Da Da Da Da :)

Bon Nuit,

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.

Mark Borcherding - 05:39am May 6, 1999 MST (#744 of 755)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Jan,  ref 742 ...

"If a man could say and do what he thinks, He'd see how he might be transformed" = 279
2+7+9 = 18 = "Love" = "Chess"

You mention 16 stops (8+8) and at the 10th stop (6+4) is the inscription above notice our chess
number in the ( )'s.

"The Long March" = 61
Inscription = 279
"The Dark Isle" = 49

6+1 + 2+7+9 + 4+9 = 38 = 3+8 = 11 = 1+1 = 2      we see our 2 chess board,  2 rivers or the 2 serpents on the staff. Interesting that the inscription is on the 10th stop. If you start at the outside edge of our solar system counting inward then M e r c u r y would be the 10th planet  (count asteroid belt as a planet) U r a n u s would be the 3rd planet and E a r t h would be 8th ......... see the 38 again?

"Black Madonna" = 37

37 = 3+7 = 10 = 1+0 = 1

Look what happens when we add the "base harmonic" of 1 back into the madonna
recalling Hydrogen is element 1 and also relates to 37 from Bonnie Gaunt's book.

37 + 1 = 38

As Above so Below ... As Below so Above

Don McLean - 08:12am May 6, 1999 MST (#745 of 755)

"See the pyramids along the Nile

Watch the sunset from a tropic isle

Just remember darling all the while

You belong to me... "

Didn't/don't mean to be so coy Xena. I was pitching out bait - (#723) and your keen eye caught the semantic "may". "Fearless Leader" might be a good epithet up there in Moosesylvania, but my dragon buddy/buddette already has a name - that being (fr.) Poimandres or, if you prefer, the English, Pimander. We can call the dragon Pi. Pi likes Rocky and Bullwinkle and considers them a formidable philosophical duo.

Casanova? Well, your quote sounds like 10cc's "Communication is the problem to the answer". Ah yes - the things we do for love. Rational discourse is typically a male stumbling block, unless, of course, you are gifted - like Maurice Chevallier.

AND NOW, FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! Pi is on the sqaure and we're about to make a risky move here, possibly throwing a red herring in with the vesica pisces. Mark, once again I call upon the power of numbers to help bail us out out if this little gambit fails to resonate. I'm probably in this way over my head. Today, Michu Kaku is Pi, and I quote...

"One of the nagging problems of Einstein's old theory of gravity was that it did not explain the origin of the Big Bang. It did not give us a clue as to what happened before the Big Bang. The 10 dimensional superstring theory, however, gives us a compelling explanation of the origin of the Big Bang. According to the superstring theory, the universe originally started as a perfect 10 dimensional universe with nothing in it.

However, this 10 dimensional universe was not stable. The original 10 dimensional space-time finally "cracked" into two pieces, a four and a six dimensional universe. The universe made the "quantum leap" to another universe in which six of the 10 dimensions curled up into a tiny ball, allowing the remaining four dimensional universe to inflate at enormous rates.

The four dimensional universe (our world) expanded rapidly, eventually creating the Big Bang, while the six dimensional universe wrapped itself into a ball and collapsed down to infinitesimal size. This explains the origin of the Big Bang, which is now viewed as a rather minor aftershock of a more cataclysmic collapse: the breaking of a 10 dimensional universe into a four and six dimensional universe. In principle, it also explains why we cannot measure the six dimensional universe, because it has shrunk down to a size smaller than an atom. Thus, no earth-bound experiment can measure the six dimensional universe."

Superstrings appear to be the post-quantum offshoot of Plato's golden braid and Newton's more metaphysical musings.

As I understand it (tenously at best)... Explicate Order = No matter where or how we pluck it, one string vibrates in, of and through an invisible quark reality to create an Implicate Order of variable manifestations - some more visible, audible or tactile than others. Once plucked, a chain of events arises - linking horizontal and vertical axes until the vibrational stimulus subsides - though, I would assume, it never completely disappears.

Amid an infinite number of sympathetic vibrations, the forces of gravity and time are thereby shown to be an illusion in a system wherein space is seen as an intricate weave of flexible coordinates. Laws of motion and attraction must also be adjusted accordingly. This theoretical approach diplaces (but does not totally negate) Newton and Einstein, whose models of the universe fail to describe a more inclusive vocabulary with regard to the composition of matter, space and time. Overall, "superstrings" present us with an idea that projects beyond temporal proofs and mathematical limitations. Essentially Janeway, this is how Roddenberry, Lucas and Spielberg assume warp drive will work.

Cheerleading on the matter of the post-deluge chessboard twins (8's and 9's) and the crack in the cosmic egg...

(0)-2 - 4 - 6 - 8 - (Who/what do we appreciate?)- mostly people places and things that we can see touch and hear.

(1) - 3 - 6 - 9 - 10 - (Every beginning is an end) Nine leads to ten I've heard it said - although the PROCESS is only made scientifically evident through a somewhat misleading 8-fold phenomena. To focus on the square is to create a context wherein the purview of its formulative boundaries go unnoticed. Like the piano keys that do not get touched - (5 of 13) - but which nevertheless form intervals among the note spaces required to perform an ocatave scale, something oblique is at work in this microtonally adjusted cosmos of ours. As Kaku and others suggest in their work, we need to ascend into another dimensional realm (the heretical fourth?) for all the pieces to fit together harmoniously. Shirley Ellis seems to manage this astounding feat...

"3-6-9- the goose drank wine, the monkey chewed tobacco on the the streetcar line The line broke, the monkey got choked and they all went to heaven in a little row boat"

But the five and the seven - What has become of them? Pi thinks Buckminster Fuller may have more clues. Pi likes Bucky - one of the few who knew how to dress a circle in triangulation.

Pi humbly submits that, given the current shape of things, the nine square board is a symmetrical impossibility. As Marc stated earlier on, a ten square board would appear mandatory.

Pi suspects that Xena is actually the reincarnation of Sir Issac. He visualizes her bent over the compass - deep in meditation...

Pi also suspects that the dragon IS the board and/or the hidden piece to many a puzzle. The knight may slay the dragon, but, like the Hercules myth, the round is eternal. Pi prefers a knight who will make friends with the dragon - Plato, Pythagoras, Sir John Frazier and Joseph Campbell are favoutie sons. A Golden Mean, a Golden Bough and A Golden Dawn recapitulate the infinite spiral of existence just as they figure prominently in the writing of each. Pi thinks Fats and Chubby will someday be listed among the latter day saints - like Mick and Keith.

So - let's twist again - like we did last summer!

Let's twist again - like we did last year

Do you remember when - things were really hummin'

Let's twist again - twistin' time is here!!!

Jan Newton - 08:19am May 6, 1999 MST (#746 of 755)

Isis, I have ordered 25 copies of Margo's magic sex book from Amazon.com.

Holmes, somehow I am not surprised at the numbers! "The Long March" sums to 7; the inscription sums to 9. The sum of both added together is 16, which sums, again, to 7. Now where have we seen this number before?

Adding the actual values for "The Long March" (61) and the inscription (279) gives us 340, which sums to 7!

I will scootch around on the 'Net during my spare time (LOL! a contradiction in terms), and see if I can find anything on "The Long March" and the Dark Isle.

Mark Borcherding - 08:35am May 6, 1999 MST (#747 of 755)
dare to dream upon your own star

Don ref 745 ... interesting about a 10 dimensional universe althought I have read many texts that claim 13 or more.

I think a 9x9 chess board makes some sense in that you are adding 1 row & 1 column. What would these new pieces be?

Black Child & Pawn

White Child & Pawn

The Child would be between the King & Queen a result of them joining and sharing their personal power of creation. Thats what happens when the Goddess Queen causes the King to lose his head to his heart. No wonder people when playing chess hate losing their Queen!

Note the Child is (king+queen), (male+female), (1+0) <-here is the 10

(0) 2 4 6 (8)

(1) 3 5 7 (9)

Georgia Albert - 08:42am May 6, 1999 MST (#748 of 755)

Don,

Does Pi play Bucky Ball with you?

We are Hummmmming right along.

Yes, Pi can sit on the furniture with the all of us:)

Thank you for explaining the String Theorey so nicely, Scientific American's explaination was a little tangled.

Give Pi a pat on the head and a rub on the tummy for me.LOL

LOVE

G

May Manna Always be with You.

Jan Newton - 08:43am May 6, 1999 MST (#749 of 755)

LOL, deLion! Your Pi is one smart cookie. By the by, is Pi a she , a he, or a both (or haven't you dared look - dragons can be mighty touchy about their privacy, ahem). Makes no difference at all, only curious! Any dragon that worships at the altar of Rocky and Bullwinkle the Moose will fit in here quite seamlessly.

Yes, what of the 5 and 7? I haven't gotten that far yet in Schneider's book on sacred geometry for dummies 101. I am looking forward with eager anticipation. As for the rest, Chako'tay, I'll look it over and get back to you. I will say this, if it REALLY worked the way envisioned, we wouldn't need to be zipping around out here in star ships now, would we...we could "de-materialize" and "re-materialize" at will, anywhere we wanted to be, at any time we wanted to be.

I always knew that entropy stuff was a bunch of bunk!

Jan Newton - 09:04am May 6, 1999 MST (#750 of 755)

Trumpet Fanfare, Maestro, if you please! Drums, Cymbols, Lights, Cameras, Action! THIS IS A SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT. I REPEAT, THIS IS A SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT. EVERYONE MUST NOW HOLD THEIR BREATH IN EAGER ANTICIPATION FOR THE NEXT 60 SECONDS.

Okay, everyone can let their breath out now, WHOOOOOOSSSSSHHHHHH!

Whew! Nearly got blown right out of my chair, darlings!

After due deliberation Isis and I have come up with A PLAN! Yes, it's true! A PLAN! For what? You all cry! Tell us, Xena, please tell us. We hang on your every syllable, your every breath, your every...

Ahem, all right darlings, you can save your praise, worship and gratitude for later. This is THE PLAN!

VIVA LAS VEGAS DURING THE WEEK OF AUGUST 16, 1999! Yes, Yes, YES! The first (what we hope will be annual) Goddesschess/Chessgoddess Convention and, incidentally, a celebration of my 48th birthday on August 19, 1999. YES! Come one, come all, bring your loved ones and significant others and kidlets and dragons! Watch Isis try to control Xena as she hits town! Watch Xena slay scorpions and deflate visiting lawyers with her Magic Compass! Watch Isis roll her eyes a lot at Xena's midwestern antics! Yes, fun and games for all! Watch Isis and Xena compete to see how many men each can seduce! Where are those high rollers, let me at 'em...

Ahem. With a large enough group, Isis can get us a discount at the Sahara. But even if no one else shows up, 'Sis and I are gonna do that town! See Isis in a bikini. See Xena in a bikini (on second thought, you really would not want to see that). Watch Xena yell at smarty pants taxi drivers and throw chess pieces from the top of the glass pyramid. See the Volcano spontaneously explode in delighted wonder when Isis and Xena go on the town, TA DA!!!!!!! Watch Xena wrestle with a Klignon warrior over at Star Trek, the Experience, and do her Kate Janeway imitation singing "Tonight's the Night". Watch Xena go barefoot and offer her foot for kissing to every man she passes on the strip, see....

Well, darlings, you get the picture! Hope to see you all there! E-mail Isis, the Mother Goddess of this Site, with your inquiries!

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