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The Weave Posts 101- 150Georgia Albert - 01:01pm Jan 21, 1999 MST (#101 of 672) We are making music. Love makes the world go round, Love makes the world go round. Can we pull a piramid out the Chess board? LOVE = 18 = 9+9 = 6+6+6 G May the Hand
of the Goddess Always be with You. Georgia Albert - 01:15pm Jan 21, 1999 MST (#102 of 672) I read that a very powerful Egyptian woman had a piramid built for herself. I wonder which piramid she had built, and what are the dementions of that piramid. The Child and the King are one. The Kings mother will always see him as her Child. LOVE G May the Hand
of the Goddess Always be with You. Mark Borcherding - 11:29pm Jan 21, 1999 MST (#103 of 672) dare to dream upon your own star ref 100 Yes I remember your 99 post and I also remember that alot of adults claim that childish = foolish ... I would be proud to be the fool. King - male aspect of self (player) Queen - female aspect of self (player) Player - child aspect of self (playing) The next post after 99 Ron was you and 100 = 10 x 10 or (2x5) x (2x5) Ref 101 Here is a pryamid take the 4 rooks as the base 4 points of the pyramid and then either one or both of the players form a cap. 4 points + 1 cap = 5 then if we add a second cap (player) for the pyramid pointing downward (hidden): 5 (previous) + 1 cap (hidden) = 6 The gentle
touch of the Goddess caresses the Inner Child. Jan Newton - 03:29am Jan 22, 1999 MST (#104 of 672) Mark, you
have blown me completely away! 34 and 43 and 7 and 77, wow! I confess
I was thinking more along the lines of the lunar calendar/woman's cycle
and how that might be affected by two full moons in one month, a rarity
by all accounts. After the second one we have this year on March 31, the
next blue moon won't be until, I think, 2003. I should check out myths
related to that... Georgia, you are right about the Mother/Goddess always
thinking of the King as her son. The origins of the trinity (God/Goddess/Son)
protype go all the way back to the Babylon that arose in Nimrod's day,
within a couple of hundred years after the Flood. All the subsequent cultures
adopted and adapted the original trinity that arose out of Nimron/Semeremis/Ninus
in their own religious beliefs; thus, for example, you have Isis/Osiris/Horus;
wife/husband who was killed and reincarnated as the son. Ron, interesting
musings about the King and Queen. Thus far my researches have uncovered
that originally the Queen was the weakest piece on the Board. It was only
in the early Renaisance (sp?) that the Queen's powers were greatly increased
to speed up the game. But, why the Queen??? Why not the Counsellor/Bishop,
or the Knights??? I have located some comprehensive chess histories at
our main library and will try to make a trip there this weekend. Maybe
I can find something on this. Earth/Wind/Fire/Water. I think I am Earth.
Who are you??? Georgia Albert - 05:59am Jan 22, 1999 MST (#105 of 672) Here is how to pull a piramid out of a Chess board. Get a magnifing glass and a One dollar bill. How many stones go accross the base and how many rows up? An octohedren-- hmmm The crystaline form of diamond, gold, iron, hematite, spinel, chromite, florite, franklinite, is octohedral. LOVE OX G May the Hand
of the Goddess always be with You. Georgia Albert - 06:04am Jan 22, 1999 MST (#106 of 672) Ref. # 103 Everybody plays the fool. How does that tune go? OX G May the Hand
of the Goddess always be with You. Jan Newton - 06:10am Jan 22, 1999 MST (#107 of 672) Quick research
on blue moons: once every 19 years we get two months with two blue moons:
1980, 1999, 2018, 2037, etc. 1999, 2018 and 2037 all have two moons in
the months of January and March. Georgia, I'm trying to find out information
about a female pyramid builder but so far no luck. However, you might
want to check out Queen Hatshepsut 1503-1480 B.C. who named herself Pharoah
upon the death of her husband, Thutmose II, and ruled for 20 years, during
which she sent out trading expeditions down the Red Sea and the coast
of Africa and brought great prosperity to the land. Her nephew, Thutmose
III, who was the heir apparent when Thutmose II died, apparently deposed
her when he grew up, but it still took him 20 years to retake the throne.
She must have been some gal! P. S. next blue moons are 12/30/2001, 7/31/04,
6/30/07, 12/31/09. Jan Newton - 06:38am Jan 22, 1999 MST (#108 of 672) Georgia,
I'm humming "Everybody Plays the Fool". Can you hear me (good thing you
can't. My humming is even worse than my singing)! Ron Adams - 11:19am Jan 22, 1999 MST (#109 of 672) "I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life." Jan, a blue
moon is only noticed when you have an artificial 12 moon Solar Year. We
have a 13 Moon Solar Year. Every 36 years and every 19 years we have these
unusual line-ups, where we make up for the fractional moon, and thus it
appears to be 14 Moons when we have two blue moons in one year. Does this
make sense? It is the illusional of false Gregorian time, which iccidentally,
was formulated by the Sumerians when they took out the 13th Zodiac sign,
Orphiucus. Actually if one is Scorpio, you are probably Orphiucian, the
Whale. The Sun astronomically is only in Scorpio 4 days, and the rest
in Orphiucus. I have researched this and have the site somewhere. Georgia Albert - 01:00pm Jan 22, 1999 MST (#110 of 672) Ref. # 85 I found this information in an old astronomy book. Julius Caesar renamed the month Quintilis ( the 5th month), we know it as July after himself. The next emperor, Augustus Caesar, also named a month after hiself. Choosing the one called Sextilus ( The 6th month), he made it August. I wonder if the M.I.V (men in violet) read this thread? he..he..he OX LOVE G May the Manna
Always be with You. Mark Borcherding - 01:58pm Jan 22, 1999 MST (#111 of 672) dare to dream upon your own star Ron regarding 36 years the light from Arcturus take about 36 years to reach us. I believe there is a 36 year relation between Jupiter and something else in solar system. Georgia look at post 103 at the end it mentions 5&6 in regard to octahedron and in post 110 you mention months 5 & 6. Hmmmm.. The Goddess
cooked us some Manna :) Ron Adams - 08:37pm Jan 22, 1999 MST (#112 of 672) "I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life." Oh Yes, I
remember, every 36 years is when the Mayan Dreamspell completes a cycle
and comes back to alignment, when Day one of the Tzolkin is also Day 1
of a Galactic Spin, Moon. Georgia Albert - 02:55am Jan 23, 1999 MST (#113 of 672) I found the M.I.V ( men in violet) at work again. I was reading "Compilation of Works of Art and Other Objects in the United States Capitol" 1965 edition. Look what I found : "In God We Trust" In 1962 three of the stars [the trinity] in back of the Speaker's rostrum in the House Chamber were removed and this inscription was placed there December 19, 1962 in accordance with House Res. 740, 87th Congress, 2nd session. This time they not only killed off the Goddess, they killed off the Child and the Family too. How did the M.I.V get this on? What about separation of church and state. Are the Supreme Court Justices in pocket with the M.I.V.? Why don't the churches and religious organizations pay property taxes like everyone else? Hmmmmmm ??? LOVE PEACE G May the Hand
of the Goddess always be with You. Mark Borcherding - 03:57am Jan 23, 1999 MST (#114 of 672) dare to dream upon your own star Knights Templar Knight = Night = La Nuit = Nuit = Nu Note the Knight moves in a "L" pattern and L is the first letter of Love. 8 is the number of the Goddess Isis "Daughter of Nu" 8 x 8 = 64 squares of the Chess board 4 x 4 x 4 = 64 8 + 8 + 4 + 4 + 4 = 28 = moon cycle (female period) 28 + 36 = 64 I recall Ron mentioning 36 in his post. 7+7+7+7 = 28 9+9+9+9 = 36 Note that "8" is the bridge between 7 & 9 Isis is bridging us from 7 to 9 what could this be? In a book I have 7 is symbolic of Androgeny and 9 is symbolic of both birth and death. Recall 16
pieces + 1 player = 17 and the number 9 is in the center between 1 thru
17. Georgia Albert - 10:53am Jan 24, 1999 MST (#115 of 672) Mark, What do you know about the history of the Knights Templar? LOVE G May the Hand
of the Goddess Always be with You. Georgia Albert - 11:40am Jan 24, 1999 MST (#116 of 672) The world is a Chess Board and we are the players. Sounds alot like a quote from Ms. Francise Bacon. LOVE G May the Manna
Always be with You. Mark Borcherding - 09:13pm Jan 24, 1999 MST (#117 of 672) dare to dream upon your own star Georgia, I just know a little of the history of the Knights of Templar they used sacred geometry and held the Madonna in upmost esteem some would say higher than God at least the Catholic church probably felt that way. They also appeared to be financially successful in the begginning which may have been an even bigger issue with church. There is
a good book called "Genesis: The First Book of Revelations" by David Wood.
It even has a short chapter on Chess. I have not read the whole book yet.
He focuses on an area in France called Rennes-le-Chateau. Jan Newton - 03:57am Jan 25, 1999 MST (#118 of 672) Ron, if we
used a 30 day 12 month year like the Hebrews, would we get only one blue
moon every 36 or whatever years? Georgia, Graham Hancock wrote a very
interesting book about his search for the lost Ark of the Covenant, and
in it he has a ton of history about the Knights Templar and the persecution
from the Roman Catholic Church that drove them, finally, underground.
I forget the name of the book, but supposedly there is a small church
somewhere in Ethiopia that claims to have the Ark in its possession and
has been guarding it ever since it was smuggled out of Jerusalem in 800
BCE or thereabouts. I found nothing specific about "blue moons" in my
research on legends associated with same; that would make sense because
the ancients used different calendars, as Ron pointed out. I am surprised
that some millenialist group hasn't seized upon the happening of two blue
moons in 1999 as some sort of sign or other. What does the 8 stand for
in "classic" numerology? I forget exactly what it meant, but have some
thought that it had to do with financial matters, earning money, career,
employment, that kind of thing. If that is so, it wouldn't seem to mean
anything as a link in the context we've been exploring. As a chess piece,
the Bishop would be a very "8" kind of guy. Ron Adams - 05:50pm Jan 25, 1999 MST (#119 of 672) "I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life." Jan, I don't
know what would happen with 360 day years, everything would be out of
sync, and by 36 years we'd be 180 days off, so winter would be summer.
Not a very good analogy, but probably why they had to change the Julian
Calendar during the time of Pope Gregory the 13th.
Mark, they
use to call the Secret of Sex Magik in these Secret Orders the Secret
of the 9 degrees. Interesting that 180 divided by 9 = 20. Mark Borcherding - 10:39pm Jan 25, 1999 MST (#120 of 672) dare to dream upon your own star Just read this and found our 64 "chess" again: Between the Sphinx and the Khefren pyramid Hawass and his staff have discovered a hitherto unknown subterranean shaft, reaching a depth of 29 meters [96 feet, approximately]. In the bottom of the shaft they found a stone sarcophagus surrounded by water. If Hawass's theory holds, he has found the grave of Osiris, the god of death.96 * 12 = 1152 inches / 18 cubit = 64 96 = 16 black
pieces + 16 white pieces + 64 squares Ron Adams - 11:49pm Jan 25, 1999 MST (#121 of 672) "I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life." Kephra is the Sun at Midnight, or the Beetle, the Black Sun. The Sphinx represents the male/female/, human/animal motif. In legend Osiris was hacked into 14 pieces by his evil brother Set and laid at places along the Nile. So if we add Osiris, Isis, and Set as the main 3 pieces, King, Queen, and Rook, the the other 13 pieces (remember we have already counted one piece of Osiris as the king) would equal our 16 chess pieces once again.
Jan Newton - 03:58am Jan 26, 1999 MST (#122 of 672) Cool legend,
Ron. I wonder how closely the game Thoth played with the Moon resembled
chess, or if it was a forerunner of chess? Isn't Selene/Astarte/Ishtar/Isis
all the same person - the moon goddess (or some aspect of her)? Mark,
72 (for the 72nd of light Thoth won from the Moon's light) minus 64 =
8. There's that 8 again. Here's a hypothesis for you all (bear with me
now): the Great Flood or Deluge was caused by the canopy of waters suspended
above the Earth after it was created allowed to crash down and wipe out
everything that wasn't in the ark. I'm sure I could find an estimate of
the cubic tons of water that would represent in a biblical encyclopedia.
What if all that water weight, combined with the opening of the "springs
of the watery deep" caused a shift in the Earth's rotational axis, or
its rotation around the Sun itself. Would this affect the length of a
year? Jan Newton - 04:27am Jan 26, 1999 MST (#123 of 672) Re my earlier
post about Graham Hancock's book and the Knights Templar, I mentioned
the wrong book. He also wrote a book, which title I forget, about the
search for the Holy Grail, and THAT is the book that goes into great detail
about the history of the Knights Templar. Ron Adams - 11:06am Jan 26, 1999 MST (#124 of 672) "I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life." Jan, I knew psychically that you would pick up on the 8. Graham Hancock has written two other books, one on Giza, and one on the Mayan discoveries.
Georgia Albert - 12:20pm Jan 26, 1999 MST (#125 of 672) Osiris was cut into 14 pieces by his brother Set and the pieces were scattered along the Nile. Isis search the Nile for the pieces, but could only find 13 of the pieces, the missing piece was his penis, so Isis fashioned a penis from earth and made love to Osiris and concieved Horus. Horus fought Set to avenge his fathers death. Horus won and Set was sent to the underworld. LOVE G May the Hand
of the Goddess always be with You. Georgia Albert - 04:09pm Jan 26, 1999 MST (#126 of 672) I was cruzing the web and I found this information: Imediately south of the Sphinx they are excavating a wall and the name of the wall is "The Wall of the Crow". Remember the definition of the Rook. This is a very long wall, the archaeologist are working on it now. I wonder could the Giza platue be laid out as a Chess board. I will keep a close eye on the dementions. I also discovered that the red piramid at Dashur will be opened soon. It is 343 ft. high. There are 97 known piramids. Dashur was a military complex for many years so access to the piramid was not possible. LOVE G May the Hand
of the Goddess always be with You. Jan Newton - 03:22am Jan 27, 1999 MST (#127 of 672) Ron, I don't
know about that 8. It just jumped right out at me. I wonder if it speaks
to hitherto unknown aspects of my character...hmmm, strength/lust being
interchangeable with balance. I didn't know I had it in me! The 8 was
a key figure/number in the novel "The Eight". I am going to have to read
that book again. Found some interesting info on the Web about the Knights
Templar, for instance, in their daily routine (that is, when they weren't
fighting or rescuing damsels in distress) they started the day by saying
28 Pater Nosters, 14 "for the hours of the day" and 14 for the Virgin
Mary. They were supposed to say four sets of these a day. Hmmmm... Then
at first meal at lunchtime they met in communal group and said 60 Pater
Nosters. The Knights' origin was in the Middle East, where chess had been
played since the 600's C.E. In my researches, I read the chess especially
caught on with the religious orders in Europe; since the Knights were
a monastic order, it follows that they probably not only played chess,
but perhaps also played with the Saracens, with whom they were on sort
of friendly-enemy terms. One could speculate endlessly on these connections.
I seem to recall reading also that the "Knight" was originally called
something else. Perhaps it became the "Knight" because of the Knights
Templar. Mark Borcherding - 03:51am Jan 27, 1999 MST (#128 of 672) dare to dream upon your own star The Knight is the only piece that can make a 90 degree turn. Put a knight on the board and then sketch the positions it can occupy then look at the picture:
Notice the
pattern and the fact the knight is in the "Center". Jan Newton - 04:10am Jan 27, 1999 MST (#129 of 672) Found some
very interesting info about the Eye of Horus. I can e-mail anyone the
site if you're interested. The entire eye measured 1 heqat. 1/64 heqat
= touch; 1/32 heqat = taste; 1/16 heqat = hearing; 1/8 heqat = thought;
1/4 heqat = signt; 1/2 heqat = smell. Also, 320 ro (a very small unit
of measure, apparently) = 1 heqat. Look at all those numbers that keep
cropping up in Chess! Jan Newton - 04:29am Jan 27, 1999 MST (#130 of 672) P. S. I was
looking for some more info on pyramids when I ran across five sites on
pyramids in CHINA! Way too cool! There are pictures; at least 100 that
these various travelers are aware of, but the government isn't doing anything
(apparently) about investigating them. The biggest one is supposedly 1,000
feet tall with a 1,500 foot base, even bigger than the one at Giza. What
is really interesting about this is in my researches on chess history
I ran across a site that was a monograph on how chess originated, not
in India, as general consensus holds (but not me), but in China! The author
was very critical of Murray, who wrote the seminal book on chess history
around the turn of the century, on which all subsequent chess histories
are based. Sort of like some translations being based on the erroneous
King James translation of the Bible. Ron, one of the sites I found theorized
that the pyramids in Egypt and in China were built by an alien race to
stablize the Earth's rotational axis. This cannot be coincidence, since
we were speculating about this a few posts ago. I don't think the pyramids
were built by aliens, but their original purpose may have been as speculated.
Look forward to all of the group's input on these findings. Jan Newton - 05:10am Jan 27, 1999 MST (#131 of 672) P.P.S. The
game of Chinese chess is called "xiangqi". The Chinese pyramids are primarily
located in Shensi Province (the communist name), which used to be called
"Xian". The city southwest of where the primary pyramids are located is
still apparently called "Xian". Coincidence??? I wonder what "xian" means
in Chinese? Ron Adams - 06:04pm Jan 27, 1999 MST (#132 of 672) "I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life." I have been
tuning into this for days. What about checkers? I forget how many squares
in the board, and how many checkers do each player get? I feel that this
is tied in to our Chess discussion somehow. Jan Newton - 03:26am Jan 28, 1999 MST (#133 of 672) Ron, I haven't
played checkers in years. I think each player gets 16. I tried looking
up "Xian" on a few Chinese-English dictionaries, but they are all based
on the Chinese characters, not the English alphabet. I can get a translation
from English into the Chinese characters, but I can't get a literal translation
of "Xian" and "Xiangqi" into English equivalent. Do any of you know someone
who speaks Chinese who maybe could translate these words into literal
English? This may not have anything to do with chess, but then again,
it may. For example, the literal translation into English of the Chinese
characters that make up the words "the Great Flood" are "eight people
in a boat". See what I mean... Philip Mistlberger - 08:11am Jan 28, 1999 MST (#134 of 672) Georgia, not true about the Red Pyramid of Dashour "just opening" (if that's what you meant). I was inside the Red Pyramid in March of 98'. I even banged my head on the top of the entry passageway for good measure. It's a fantastic, impressive pyramid, almost as much so as the Cheops and Chephren pyramids of Giza. After looking into the matter for a long time and doing meditations in the major Egyptian pyramids, I personally suspect that they were exoterically religious edifices, mesoterically energy accumulators, and esoterically centers of ritual initiation. Anyone with some meditation training, in conjunction with "visiting the field" tends to have similar insights. The "balancing the earth" theory seems outlandish at first glance (owing to the enormous mass differential) but if the Great Pyramid was in fact an energy accumulator (microwaves is what the suspected wavelength was of the resultant energy, achieved by tapping the Earth's rotational kinetic field), then who knows? Right now there are so many speculations and disagreements event amongst the mystical cognoscenti that anything is possible. Quite the
discussion here. The connection between the chess Knight and the Egyptian
neter Nut is interesting Mark, particularly since only the knight can
"jump over", and when you go inside the Mastabas (tombs) in the Valley
of the Kings across the river from Luxor, the Goddess Nut is usually painted
on the ceilings, arching OVER everything else, much like a Knight's "jump".
For me this movement has always symbolized an "interdimensional leap",
much like an Out of Body Experience. The energy in the King's Chamber
of the Great Pyramid is extraordinary, and for a sensitive, open person
is enough to catalyze an upper chakra opening that can lead to an OBE.
Much of Egyptian ritual was probably based on this, as per their intricate
after-life mystic corpus. The after-life conditions can only be understood
through direct "gnosis" obtained through soul-travel (OBE's). When I lay
down in the sarcophagus of the King's Chamber I felt extraordinary energy
and a peculiar sens e of being in the "centre of the world". Many who
have been in this chamber have had this feeling. The "centre" would represent
the heart chakra, (knight in the Centre?), love, the feminine, and the
element of "air" (traditionally associated with the heart chakra). In
the old Hermetic schools "air" is the element representing interdimensional
movement, ruled in the animal kingdom by birds, and we know what the Egyptians
said about birds (Horus, the falcon).... Philip Mistlberger - 12:02pm Jan 28, 1999 MST (#135 of 672) Okay, now you've got me going... Reading the original posts on this site from last month. A few points to make... Mark, I don't think the king is just another pawn. Mathematically, in chess a pawn equals roughly 1 unit, a knight 3, a bishop 3.5 (the knight is generally superior in the middle-game, bishop in the end-game), a rook 5, and a queen 9. The king is numerically equal to infinity, because the moment he is "immobilized" (mated) the game is over. Thus, although the queen is the most powerful, the king is the most important -- the central figure around which the game rotates. The queen, like all the others, is merely a means to an end. In fact, some of the most famous grandmaster games have involved queen sacrifices in order to immobilize the opponent's king. All fairly straightforward, but in the context of your discussion, Georgia, here's where it gets interesting for me. I suspect that chess does originate in India, because Indian culture is the only one that exhalts the feminine, in terms of power. Hinduism is largely a feminine religion (caste system notwithstanding), a polytheistic mosaic where the female counterpart always precedes the male (Radhe-Krishna, Shakti-Shiva). "Shakti" (the female force) in Sanskrit means "power", or "energy". "Shiva" (the male force) means many things, but the direct translation is "benevolent". Its symbolism is the mountain; Shakti is the wind. Thus, the Shakti force is the powerful wind of the manifest universe; the Shiva principle is the silent presence in the background. So, the Indian Tantric schools taught that a woman must express power in order to achieve the balance that her incarnation dictates, and a man must express benevolence (non-reactivity, like a mountain) in order to come to balance. These ideas fit with chess, where the queen (shakti) is all-powerful (like the Goddess in the Pagan traditions) and the king is silent, though vital, in the background. Again, the Indian culture exhalted the female for thousands of years, so it seems a fair bet that chess derives from there. This is all
consistent with Sacred Geometry, where the male (straight line) preceeds
the female (curved line). At the original central point of existence a
straight line is extended in all directions, equidistant from the centre
point. Join all the end points together and you have a sphere, the birth
of the female force. Then, it is the female that actually "creates" the
cosmos. In Hebrew this creationary force is known as "Ruach", in Christian
tradition it is the Holy Spirit. The Hindus called it "prana". It is the
manifest power of existence. And, yes, I believe that the patriarchy obscured
this over time by neutering the Goddess into simply the "Holy Ghost".
Georgia Albert - 01:36pm Jan 28, 1999 MST (#136 of 672) Welcome Philip, WOW What took you so long to get here? Glad your here. LOVE G May the Hand
of the Goddess always be with You. Georgia Albert - 02:20pm Jan 28, 1999 MST (#137 of 672) This is on the must read list. Pick up the February 1999 issue of Discover Magazine and read the article "First Americans". According to the magazine Europians have been traveling to the Americas for around 20,000 years. Hmmmmmmmm Does that mean Columbus didn't discover America,he..he..he LOVE G May the Hand
of the Goddess Always be with You. Ron Adams - 11:07pm Jan 28, 1999 MST (#138 of 672) "I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life." Hi Philip,
post 135 is interesting. The Mayan's called her Bolin Ik, White Spirit
Wind. They called the life force ITZ. They knew of chakras and kundalini
just like the Hindu, from recent pottery finds in their temple sites.
Mark Borcherding - 12:37am Jan 29, 1999 MST (#139 of 672) dare to dream upon your own star Philip welcome to the discussion and thanks for your wonderful posts. Your comment about the point (male) and lines radiating to form the sphere (female) made me think of the Egyptian solar disk which is a circle with a dot in the middle. S H A K T I (female) 1 8 1 2 2 9 = 23 S H I V A (male) 1 8 9 4 1 = 23 23 + 23 = 46 (chromosomes?) Chess board has 64 squares 64 reveresed is 46 32 black squares and 32 white squares representing male & female interconnected. 32 = 23 mirrored. 2+3 (female) + 2+3 (male)= 10 Here we have the 1 & the 0 where do we start at 1 or at 0 when counting the digits? 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Look what happens when we add the two sequences: 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 If we add these together we get 100 (10 x 10) 64 squares
+ 32 pieces + 2 players + 1 board + 1 (???) = 100 Jan Newton - 05:01am Jan 29, 1999 MST (#140 of 672) Welcome,
Philip! Your insights on Hinduism are interesting with respect to the
feminine aspect. As usual, Mark, our wondrous wiz with numbers, has come
up with some unique insights based on your comments. The general consensus
is that chess arose in India. I don't necessarily think that's true. The
queen did not obtain her present powers until the mid 14th century in
Europe when her powers were increased to greatly speed up the game, which,
under the former rules, might take days and even weeks. Prior to that,
she was the weakest piece on the board, not even able to move straight
ahead or on the diagonal like a pawn, but only on the diagonal, and under
some versions of the game, only one space at a time. Mark, how about adding
the "spirit" to the game as the final "+1" to = 100, the spirit being
the combined female/male force, you know, along the lines of the sum being
greater than the constituent parts. Ron, have posted to the Pyramids discussion.
Will be interested to see where that goes. Mark Borcherding - 09:53am Jan 29, 1999 MST (#141 of 672) dare to dream upon your own star Georgia made a request that I post something on 99 relating back to post #99: 99 = 64 + 28 + 7 64 = squares of the chess board 28 = days of the moon 7 = chakras in the body 64 = 6+4 = 10 = 1+0 = 1 "unity" Now we have turned the 64 into a "1" board: 1 + 28 + 7 = 36 We see that 36 added to its mirror 63 = 99 3+6 + 6+3 = 18 L O V E = 3+6+4+5 = 18 99 = 9+9 = 18 = 1+8 = 9 99 + 9 = 108 = number of prayer beads 9+9+9 = 27 = number of 3 star-tetrahedrons, 3 x trinity 9 x 9 = 81 = number of Isis, mirror of 18 81 + 27 = 108 8+1 + 2+7 = 18 = Love The number 9 is symbolic of "light" and thus when you have the equal lights of the Goddess and God shining with each other 9+9=18 you have the power of Love. Two lights dancing as opposites birth reality. It was said in the Bible that 6 is the number of Man so if we have a 6 for man, 6 for woman, 6 for child thus: 666 or 6+6+6 = 18 = Love If we add Earth orbit 3 "trinity" to this we get: 666 + 333 = 999 9+9+9 = 27 = 9 + 18 = Child + (Man & Woman) Take a number
and divide it by 999 and see what happens. Philip Mistlberger - 11:01am Jan 29, 1999 MST (#142 of 672) Your info, Jan, about the change in powers of the queen in the 14th century is interesting and is, I am aware, part of the currently accepted historical paradigm. However, no one really knows for sure, as the origins of chess, much like the Tarot, are not definitively known (as you tireless researchers have no doubt discovered!). Within the realm of speculation, I lean toward a Silk Road connection and northwest India, and a probable blending of trans-cultural influences. According to John Bennett, one of the most reknowned scholars of trans-cultural convergences, parts of Afghanistan (Balkh) were the major crossroads point for the pooling of social and religious traditions. The "pure-land" sect of Buddhism is thought to have derived from the Persian sun-god (though Buddhism itself was birthed in India), and the Islamic (Sufi, in particular) influence bears upon the migration of Buddhist teachings from India through northern Afghanistan and up into Kashgar (western China). With all this going on, a mix of culture was inevitable, and hence the extreme difficulty in pinning down the origins of things. For eg., Tibetan Buddhism is only 1200 years old, originally influenced by the Shamanistic "Bon" tradition indigenous to Tibet, looks Sino-ish at first glance, yet its origins are Indian. All the Bodhisattvas in the Tibetan pantheon have Indian, in particular Hindu, roots. Hard to tell, initially. The original point about the relationship between chess and the Goddess traditions may never be answered with certainty, but the connections between female empowerment and historical roots in the Hindu pantheon are valid and interesting. On a lighter note, I wandered through central and northern India back in the mid-80's, made my way up into Nepal to spend a month visiting a spiritual teacher, and ended up playing chess one day in a Kathmandu bar. At the time I was wearing Hindu prayer beads (hey, it was the 80s!), and my arrogant Nepali opponent assumed I'd be a pushover -- you know, young flakey North American seeker of truth with money to burn. After he lost all four games his attitude changed considerably. For me this reflects a prevailing mind set vis a vis the intellect, that somehow it is given primacy over other qualities, such as intuition, feeling, sensation, psychic sensitivity. That is why ultimately, I doubt whether chess was a "game of the Goddess". Too left-brained. And besides, tournament chess-players (98% of whom are men) are pretty eccentric (I know, I was one!). The general rule of thumb in professional chess is the stronger the player, the more neurotic the person. (Kevin Spraggett, Canadian GM, rare example, genuinely nice guy). All that left-brained analysis makes for a lop-sided boat. Now, if pagan
traditions were introduced to the International Chess Fedaration administrators,
that'd be interesting... Ron Adams - 11:54am Jan 29, 1999 MST (#143 of 672) "I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life." Mark, Jan
is right (post 140). What if we add the word "Spirit" for the One, to
make the 100?
Georgia Albert - 04:35pm Jan 29, 1999 MST (#144 of 672) Ref: #142 Philip, Are you absolutly sure that it is not the Game of the Goddess? Prrrrrr LOVE G May the Hand
of the Goddess Always be with You. Philip Mistlberger - 04:58pm Jan 29, 1999 MST (#145 of 672) Georgia, Absolutely sure? Absolutely not. I'm just indulging in Socratic doubt. As Bertrand Russell once said, "Dogmatism
and scepticism are both, in a sense, absolute philosophies; one is certain
of knowing, the other of not knowing. What philosophy should dissipate
is CERTAINTY, whether of knowledge or ignorance." Mark Borcherding - 12:45am Jan 30, 1999 MST (#146 of 672) dare to dream upon your own star ref #140 & 143 Jan & Ron - yes that is a great answer "one" spirit. 100 / 999 = .100100100100100... 108 / 999 = .108108108108108... 64 / 999
= .064064064064064... Georgia Albert - 08:00am Jan 30, 1999 MST (#147 of 672) I feel that Bertand Russell, would have enjoyed this Thread. He believed in the freedom to LOVE. OX LOVE G May the Hand
of the Goddess Always be with You. Ron Adams - 05:50pm Jan 30, 1999 MST (#148 of 672) "I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life." Purrrrrr.
Georgia, why do they say: Georgia Albert - 12:04pm Jan 31, 1999 MST (#149 of 672) OK Ron, By the light of the Silvery Moon Information brougth her back. Prrrrrrrrrr How about a Qeen sacrifice, for one has eight more pawns to transform. I was thinking more along the lines of a mother crow. How does that tune go? Blue Moon OX OX OX OX LOVE G May the Hand
of the Goddess Always be with You. Ron Adams - 03:31pm Jan 31, 1999 MST (#150 of 672) "I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life." Blue Moon
you make me croon. You make me swoon. You make me feel so blue. |
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