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The Weave Posts 351- 400
     

Alice Haney - 09:31pm Mar 14, 1999 MST (#351 of 358)

Thank you for your welcome, Georgia. I hope I can add to your conversation, though as I told Jan, I feel intimidated by the knowledge I have seen expressed here.

Jan, ( post #347) that is what Gordon-Michael Scallion said of the Great Pyramid on Art's Show. I believe this was February 17/18 show. he stated that there are seven upper chambers or maybe layers (I forgot) and also seven lower chambers or layers. If interested the archives would surely have this show. I have been waiting (and so has Gordon-Michael, per his website) for someone to transcribe that show.

That is interesting about Pythagoras' wife and his views on equality of the sexes, I was unaware of this. I do have some information about him though and will post it, perhaps others can add to our information of him and his mystery school.

Pythagoras is most commonly remembered for the Pythagorean theorem, which states that The square of the hypotenuse of a right triangle is equal to the sum of the squares of the other two sides. However, Pythagoras was primarily a mystic and philosopher. He believed that "all things were numbers" and that numbers represent spiritual entities whose presence is felt in all existence.

He discovered mystical significance of numbers, noting that the numbers 1 through 9 stand, macro-cosmically, for universal principles. On the personal level, micro-cosmically, they stand for characteristics, abilities and events.. He saw in number patterns and geometrical ratios the explanations of all natural phenomena, musical harmony and tonal qualities. He knew that the stars and planets as vibrating bodies produced sound which became known as the "music of the spheres."

Pythagoras was born around 582 B.C. on the Greek island of Samos, in the Aegean Sea. As a young man he left home and traveled to Egypt, where he was initiated into certain mathematical doctrines. He is also reported to have studied with Zoroaster, the Persian sage, and to have learned the Kabbalah in Judea. The science of numbers he eventually taught was based on Kabbalistic principles.

Pythagoras finally settled in Crotona in southern Italy and established a school for the mysteries. Before his students could proceed into the Pythagorean mysteries, they had to know the four sciences of arithmetic, music, astronomy and geometry. Plato was a follower of Pythagoras and it is to him that we owe most of our knowledge of the Pythagorean school.

Pythagoras taught that, "Evolution is the law of life; Number is the law of the universe; Unity is the law of God." He believed that everything in the universe was subject to predictable progressive cycles. His means of measuring these cycles were the numbers 1 through 9.

He also taught that numbers have a significance apart from the values denoted by the figures. Numbers are different from figures. Numbers represent qualities; figures represent quantities. Numbers operate on the spiritual plane, while figures are for measuring things on the material plane.


Philip Mistlberger - 10:13pm Mar 14, 1999 MST (#352 of 358)

Mark, you're fired.

(Kidding!!) You'll have to forgive me, I have a dry sense of humour and that one was too good to resist.

I wonder if the message board could not "process" it because of all that spiritual energy! Must have fried old Inty's circuits, what with the combined power of chess and the Pyramids....

Georgia, we may be needing a chemist. Jan, in your post 345, interesting the part about "awakening kundalini". There are many that believe that "kundalini awakenings" occur in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid.

A form of "mirrored pyramid" is the Star Tetrahedron, though with both pyramids partially interfacing with each other. Mark has shown us this shape in some previous colourful posts. This is the design that goes perfectly with the famous Leonardo "man" picture, with the outspread arms. And, get this: an 8X8=64 grid overlays exactly on the Leonardo man. There is rendition of this on pg 227 of Robert Perala's "The Divine Blueprint".

When the Octahedron is turned a certain way, it reveals a triangle, and with further manuevering can be seen as a Golden Mean rectangle. This is from a good primer on Sacred Geometry, found at www.floweroflife.org/vi/

Incidentally, the original founder of FOL, D.Melchizidek, for a while claimed to be in telepathic ("channeling") communication with Thoth, and to have received information about very definite things hidden under the Great Pyramid. The phenomenon of "channeling" may not be everyone's cup of tea, but in some senses it's just a fancy word for intuition, and its multilevel capacities. And we all know how powerful a force intuition can be, even in the realm of empirical science.

When the chess grid is superimposed over Leonardo's "man" drawing, the 2nd pyramid falls over the pelvis and 1st-2nd chakra area. In esoteric science, this is the zone of the kundalini-energy, the "serpent" power that when awakened eventually leads to full enlightenment. Interesting in that the 2nd pyramid has been linked by Robert Temple with Isis, primary Goddess of Egypt, as kundalini has been linked with Shakti, primary Goddess of India. Thus, through the chessboard grid, we see that the pyramid of Isis coincides with the kundalini of Shakti. (Acknowledging that Temple's link of the 2nd pyramid with Isis is speculation).


Philip Mistlberger - 10:48pm Mar 14, 1999 MST (#353 of 358)

Jan, post 346, the Mu (not the secret life of cows' mu) cystals being buried for future salvage immediately reminded me of the Tibetan "terma" phenomenon. Padma Sambhava was the Indian Tantric master who brought Buddhism to Tibet around 700 BCE, and he had a premonition that Buddhism would be temporarily eradicated from Tibet by a hostile king (which did in fact happen). To guard against this he had many sacred objects and texts buried throughout the country, intended for future discoveries in safer times. These objects and texts, called "termas", were in fact discovered in later centuries, when Buddhism was again entrenched in the country, and their knowledge was duly disseminated.


Paul Bilyeu - 12:49am Mar 15, 1999 MST (#354 of 358)
<^> <^> <^>Why Tokay_____Y2K_____White OK<^> <^> <^>

A review of the Thoth/Crowley 8/Wands card might spark a memory trace of mirrored tetrahedrons.<>


Mark Borcherding - 06:47am Mar 15, 1999 MST (#355 of 358)
dare to dream upon your own star

 G E N E R A T I O N - D E G E N E R A T I O N

0 1+ 2+ 3+ 4++
0
4++
Carbon
3- 2- 1- 0

P O S I T I V E - N E G A T I V E
"Inhale" - "Exhale"

:Here we see the values that are passed thru in an octave and they exist
as pairs to create a zero "perfect" balance.   There are 9 octaves in the
element harmonic progression.The first 4.5 octaves lead to maturity of
Carbon. Carbon creates the cube-sphere form and carbon alone crystalizes
into a true "cube" all other elements which crystalize as cubes are octave
extensions of carbon. Hydrogen is a one octave younger prototype of
Carbon. The universal nine of of matter and space is three mirrors "trinity"
in which all 3 extrand at right angles to each other , each mirroring itself
into the other.

We see this in the star-tetrahedron formed by a pair of tetra-hedrons. There
are 4 points in the top tetrahedron and 4 points in the bottom tetrahedron then
there is one center. The top tetrahedron is called the "Sun" or male tetrahedron
and the bottom tetrahedron is called the "Earth" or female tetrahedron. At the
center point is balance the "zero" point of the Yin and Yang.

Ref 348 Jan

>Total: 1550.0696
>When I added up the numbers in the total, it came out to 32! Half above, half below???

Since there is pairing at all levels then 32 yin + 32 yang = 64 chess board squares and we see this
again when we 64 = 6+4 = 10 the 1 and the 0 paired thus 64+1 = 65 and 6+5 = 11 and in our
octahedron pyramids we see 5 points + 1 center + 5 points = 11 harmonically connecting to our
64+1.


Philip Mistlberger - 12:18pm Mar 15, 1999 MST (#356 of 358)

Typo in my post 353, Padma Sambhava brought Buddhism to Tibet around 700 CE, not BCE.

Mark, the carbon information is interesting, I'll compare it with Gurdjieff's "table of hydrogens".

I read yesterday that there was once a 10th pyramid on the Giza plateau, on the south side of the 2nd pyramid. A mastaba ("tomb") remains there, but the small pyramid has since been completely destroyed.


Mark Borcherding - 05:25pm Mar 15, 1999 MST (#357 of 358)
dare to dream upon your own star

Ref 356 Philip ... Interesting the 10th pyramid was destroyed with maybe remanents left. We have 9 planets in the solar system with an asteriod belt that was likely a 10th planet destroyed sort of like the 10th pyramid?

The Mayan calendar has 20 solar glyphs that can be paired 2 per planet with 10 planets. The "asteriod belt" planet is called by some "Maldek" and it held these Mayan solar glyphs:

CHICCAN "Serpent" (female) - power of life force , glyph number 5

IX "Wizard" (male) - power of time , glyph number 14

Notice how the planets pairs orbits sum to 11 and the colors are of the 4 directions and the center.

1 Mercury 10 Pluto
2 Venus 9 Neptune
3 Earth 8 Uranus
4Mars 7 Saturn
5 Maldek 6 Jupiter


Jan Newton - 11:49am Mar 16, 1999 MST (#358 of 358)

Greetings, Alice. Welcome to "our world" here. As I told you, I knew you would fit right in! I will see if I can track down the archived Gordon Michael Scallion show you mentioned. There is so much to discuss, I hardly know where to begin. Phil, re post 352, I knew you would pick up on the "kundalini awakenings" in post 345. Fascinating, isn't it, how they turned up here in connection with chess after we had discussed them in a totally unrelated context! Also in your post 352, Phil, you mentioned Robert Temple linking Isis with the second pyramid. Is that because of the second pyramid's possible connection with the Sphinx, which once had a statue of Horus in front of it? Next, re your post 357, great info about the buried Buddhist treasures in Tibet. Just suppose, for the moment, that "someone" found the alleged Mu crystals. Just think of the knowledge that "someone" would have uncovered. Might perhaps explain all these UFO's people see zipping around all over the place, for one thing, hmmmm? Another thought: the concept of the mirrored pyramids. We know there is at least one big chamber under, I think, the Great Pyramid at Giza, because Hawi showed it to us on t.v. a few weeks ago when he took us down those iron-runged ladders to the "tomb of Osiris". Also, and I believe this has been brought out here by others before, sonar (is that the right term?) tests around the plateau have revealed the possibility of huge underground chambers, all of which are, supposedly, unexplored (but who knows what the heck the powers that be are up to). As usually happens when we are weaving our tapestry, this morning I "just happened" to pick a book up from one of my bookshelves while I was looking for something else, and it was by Graham Hancock. I tucked it in my bag to look through again on my way to work, since it's been several years since I read it (Fingerprints of the Gods). Lo and behold, Phil, on page 293, there is a diagram of Giza and what appears to be the 10th pyramid you mentioned directly middle of and on the south side of the second pyramid. It is, in the diagram, much much smaller that the three small pyramids to the east of the Great Pyramid, and even smaller than the three to the south of the third pyramid. Mark, re your post 354, thanks for bringing out the connection between "11" and the number of points in the mirrored octahedrons. Would this number also reflect a connection to our "moon", sometimes considered by the ancients as a planet, in this case then, the "11th" planet, if we include Maldek in the solar system? If there was a 10th pyramid, though, Georgia, can you connect it up with another octahedron crystal, and if so, what impact would that have on our findings and speculations thus far?


Alice Haney - 05:35pm Mar 16, 1999 MST (#359 of 678)

Hi Jan, thank you for your welcome and the invitation. I see that when Art is on vacation in the next couple weeks, the Gordon-Michael Scallion show I was talking about is scheduled to be rebroadcast. The show is scheduled to be March 29th (Mon/Tue). This is the show in which he spoke at length about the Great Pyramid and the intiations which were held there.

When you speak of the "Mu crystals" are you referring to "Record Keeper Crystals?" I was gifted with one about a year ago. These look like regular crystals (mine is about 5 inches long and 2 inches in diameter) but have little pyramid bubble(s) on one facet. I have also heard these called "recorder crystals." I will post this information from a book I have about them.

The Record Keeper is one of the most sacred crystals that could ever be witnessed or worked with. Eons of wisdom can be stored within such crystals, and when properly attuned to, can reveal ancient knowledge and profound secrets of the Universe. These crystals have been consciously and purposely programmed by either oversoul beings who created the vibrational frequencies that would allow human life to evolve on earth, or by their direct lineage - the Atlantians and the Lemurians.

There is much more and I will copy it down in a file and e-mail it to any who want this information. This comes from a book by Katrina Raphaell called "Crystal Enlightenment." Love and Light to you, all. Alice


Philip Mistlberger - 08:20pm Mar 16, 1999 MST (#360 of 678)

Anyone ever read the book "Initiation" by Elizabeth Haich? I suspect you may be aware of this book, Alice. Jan and Georgia, you'd probably enjoy it, it's about a modern-day woman who recalls in detail a previous incarnation in Egypt, where she was initiated as a mystery school priestess. It's one of those books that doesn't demand allegiance to a belief system, and thus can be read as detailed "history" or as a fascinating novel.

The chamber under the Great Pyramid, Jan, is known as the "subterranean chamber", or simply as "the pit". It's been closed to the public for quite a while.

The connection between the hypothetical 10th "exploded planet" and the 10th destroyed pyramid is fascinating, Mark. (Information about this pyramid surprised me, as when I was there I saw nothing more than an amorphous pile of rubble in that area). So, I took out my compass. Taking the sacred Golden Mean radius (5 squares length on the Giza chessboard grid) I put the compass point at the overhead coordinates of the King's Chamber in the Great Pyramid, then traced the arc. Voila! The arc passes right through the area where the 10th destroyed pyramid is supposed to have been. Hmmm....

Note: The "King's Chamber" and "Queen's Chamber" were not known by these names by the ancient Egyptians. These were terms given by Arabs of much later times, and only because what is known as the "Queen's Chamber" has a gabled roof, commonly associated with the burial of queens by the Arabs. There is absolutely no evidence that a king or queen were in fact ever entombed there.


Alice Haney - 09:03pm Mar 16, 1999 MST (#361 of 678)

Phillip, I have the book beside me on the shelf, I wonder how you knew I had it? You seem very psychic, I would love to do your numbers for you, or know what numbers you have, if you have run your own. I am guessing a 38/11 is somewhere in there. Love and Light to you, Alice


Georgia Albert - 09:12pm Mar 16, 1999 MST (#362 of 678)

Jan, I will search for a tenth octahedral cyrstal. Mark on your post you mentioned that carbon was concidered a cube, well the Galena crystal is a cube sometimes, Galena is the only crystal that cleves perfectly on an atomic basis. It is used to construct nano machines and make nano transistors and many more high tech toys, I love toys. Galena is a fabulous metal. Scientists today are using crystals to store enormous amounts information.

A little number play?

11+11+11= 33

11*11*11= 1331

11+11= 22

11*11= 121

Notice the sums and products, they can be written backwards and forwards and they remain the same. Hmmmmm

LOVE

G

May Manna Always be With You.


Mark Borcherding - 07:06am Mar 17, 1999 MST (#363 of 678)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Ref  362 - Georgia ... here is some more playing with your numbers
11+11+11= 33 mayan "Pacal Votan" = 33
11*11*11= 1331 1331 reflected = 3113 starting year of mayan calendar 3113BC - 2012AD (13 baktuns)
11+11= 22 there are 22 steps down into Pacal's tomb at Palenque Temple of Inscriptions
11*11= 121 kin 121 in the mayan Tzolkin is 4 Imix and starts the central "7th" column

Remember each of the planet pairs orbits summed = 11.

Earth 3 + Uranus 8 = 1  seen also as: 3 + 5 = 8

Note: 5 is seen in the pyramid 4 base points and 1 capstone.
the 4 directions east,north,west,south, and the center five planets Mars,Maldek,Jupiter,Saturn,Uranus

3 is seen in the center chambers: King, Queen, Pit (trinity)

8 is seen when the outer and inner are combined as one

in lakech forever - A Goddess is on the Tomb Lid of Pacal Votan?

mark


Philip Mistlberger - 02:38pm Mar 17, 1999 MST (#364 of 678)

Georgia, as you are captain of the starship "Chess History", I want to know what happened to Ron Adams? Did you send him back 5,000 posts, er, years, in time to find out what really happened at Giza? Or is he playing chess somewhere in the Mabinogion bardic tales, moving around the pages like a Cheshire cat?

Mark, you obviously know a lot about Mayan history. What do you think of the Aztec legend of Aztlan? Possibly Atlantis?

Alice, I'd be happy to have you "do" my numbers. What's involved?

I'm not surprised you have Haich's book. What did you think of it? There is another one out by Earlyne Chaney called "Initiation in the Great Pyramid", also interesting.


Alice Haney - 04:06pm Mar 17, 1999 MST (#365 of 678)

Phillip, to be honest with you, I have not finished it. I read about half of it and got side tracked and haven't gotten around to finishing it. Since I have been posting on these message boards I see many books I need to refresh myself on and others I need to finish. I was a total "bookaholic" before getting my computer. I need to stay off this and read more. The profile offer also stands for anyone interesting in a profile for themselves or family members. Love and Light to you, Alice


Mark Borcherding - 06:05pm Mar 17, 1999 MST (#366 of 678)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Ref 364 Philip
I think that likely that there is a relationship between the Mayans and
the Atlanteans seems likely that Atlantis had a problem and some moved
to area where Mayans and Aztecs civilizations rose.

Aztlan 20
Atlantis 24
Aztec 19
Maya 13

Interesting that "Aztlan" = 20 = number of Mayan glyphs
"Maya" = 13 = number of Mayan tones

Notice that 20 & 13 form 2013 which is the next year after
the Mayan calendar 2012 end date for this cycle.


Jan Newton - 06:57pm Mar 17, 1999 MST (#367 of 678)

Mark, that is amazing, about Aztlan. You never cease to amaze me. In the now, unfortunately, disappeared original of "Pyramids" initiated by our friend, Ron Adams, Rock Lake, WI came up in discussion because of an A&E special that mentioned that some thought there were "pyramids" at the bottom of the lake. Intrepid explorer and researcher extraordinaire that I am, I at once set off on the trail. I tracked down an archeological "club" local to the area and e-mailed a "dr" and a "ms". The "dr" did not reply. The "ms" did. (I got the impression, based on the e-mail addresses, that both are affiliated with the University of Minnesota). Basically, she told me that because of the local legends surrounding Rock Lake - there are Native American burial mounds nearby and apparently a museum of artifacts called the Aztlan Museum - a group came in and did sonar tests, but they were "inconclusive" as to structures under the water. Hmmmm. At any rate, to the best of my recollection, the "discoverer" of the area named it "Aztlan" because it reminded him of the Aztecs. I believe he was a Geman, or of German extraction. (Significant because of possible connection to swastika/Indian/Aryan mythic cult???) I have a copy of her e-mail to me aroundd somewhere, I will dig it out and re-check my facts. Phil, 10 mea culpas for mistaking the Pyramid under which the alleged "Tomb of Osiris" was located! You did not comment, however, on the possible Horus connection. What think you? While paging through the Graham Hancock book that "accidently jumped into my hands" the other day off the bookshelf, I found a very intriguing entry about a ruin I know absolutely nothing about, called the "Osireion" at Abydos. According to Hancock's take on things, it could be as ancient as many think the Sphinx could be, and is constructed in a very similar manner, using megalithic blocks, jig-saw puzzled together, like the Mayans did with Machu Picchu, et al. He thinks it could go back as far as around 11,000-12,000 BCE. Tres cool. Anybody heard of this one before??? Got to run, Xena's coming on at 9 and I NEVER miss her.


Alice Haney - 10:16pm Mar 17, 1999 MST (#368 of 678)

http://thecity.sfsu.edu/NativeWeb/home/plptwr.html

This is a URL for "Pyramid Lake" Nevada, it has pictures, could this be what your looking for Jan? From what I remember reading about it, this is a caldera of a collapsed volcano. L&L to you, Alice


Paul Bilyeu - 03:44am Mar 18, 1999 MST (#369 of 678)
<^> <^> <^> <^> TEOTWAWKI 2000 <^> <^> <^> <^>

I saw "Ron Adams" over in UFO Aduct/Hypnos group. Strangely cynically slurred......."noire'" in chess parlance.


Mark Borcherding - 07:07am Mar 18, 1999 MST (#370 of 678)
dare to dream upon your own star

 There seems to be a relationship bewteen Human DNA
and the chess board. Note the the chinese I-Ching also
has 64 codons. Thus each I-ching codon could be placed
on the chess board. I wonder how the I-ching would line-up
with Philip's Giza plateau chess layout?


DNA Chromosomes Chess squares
46 64
23 + 23 32 + 32

Notice that the numbers are mirrors of each other
in the table above. If we add them 23 + 32 = 55
and recall the 5th postition in the medicine wheel
is the center:

5 = center male
5 = center female

In mayan number symbols a 55 looks like this:


         
         
         
         
         
         
          

Since mayan number is fractal this also represents a 17 and the
17th Mayan glyph is Caban also known as Red Earth.
This glyph carries power of "Navigation".

Now we can split this number pattern back into two pieces and
notice how it is done by the two top dots one being male and the
other being female. Each of these below is a 16 and 16+16=32

The 16th Mayan glyph is Cib also known as Yellow Warrior.
This glyph carries power of "Intelligence". The true warrior is able
respect both halfs the male and female and connect them together
then that individual knows the secret of the Red Earth Path. Notice
which colors are involved here the Red "East" and the Yellow "South"
signifying completion.


Jan Newton - 12:01pm Mar 18, 1999 MST (#371 of 376)

We need more "true warriors" today. Too bad, Mark, some of these things aren't taught in gradeschool! Your glyph diagrams remind me very strongly of the diagram of the Osireion in Hancock's book. I wish I could duplicate it here, but I don't have a clue how to do so. Alice, it was Rock Lake, WI that was mentioned, but thanks for the info on the other lake. I will check it out.


Philip Mistlberger - 01:40pm Mar 18, 1999 MST (#372 of 376)

Paul "Hercule" Bilyeu, Ron Adams "strangely cynically slurred" tone in that (now ancient) post you were referring to is clearly the result of time travel effects. He may also have been wrestling with a particularly unruly chess piece from the pages of the Mabinogion. Unfortunately, the transporter from the starship "Chess History" seems to have malfunctioned, and he ended up in the wrong discussion room.

Jan, you of the legal mind: what time period do you suspect Ron ended up in? Let's solve this mystery. Mark, get out those glyphs. Alice, we'll be needing some sort of profile. Illumani, keep checking those websites. Maybe he materialized there somewhere accidentally.

Mark, I'm going to superimpose the I Ching 64 squares on the Giza chessboard grid. It'll be interesting, no doubt. I'll report my results later. Spock out.


Vickie Ramirez - 01:43pm Mar 18, 1999 MST (#373 of 376)
O Music! In your depths we deposit our hearts and souls. Thou hast taught us to see with our ears, and hear with our hearts.

Hi Alice, RE POST 359: I would be most interested in the information that you are offering about Crystal Enlightenment. I, too, am glad you have joined us. I like you feel underqualified to participate in this thread, but I feel that each of us has unique insights to share...

To add to Mark's comments I just started reading a book on numerology, "Numbers and You" by Lloyd Strayhorn, which explains the "Pythagorean and Chaldean Approach". There is a chapter called "The Life Cycles Rosicursian Approach. I found it interesting that they divide a year up into 52 day periods, which mirrors the Mayan Sacred Tzolkin Calendar. 52 days is a fractal of the 260 day Tzolkin. 52 days equals 4 13 day wavespells or one Castle.
Ilumani


Mark Borcherding - 02:43pm Mar 18, 1999 MST (#374 of 376)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Ref 373 Vickie ...I think everyone has something to contribute and its when we all share
what we know and then put it together from all of our perspectives that we get a better
vision of the whole. I encourage anyone to participate ... do not judge what you have to offer
"all the pieces of a puzzle are needed to complete the picture".

I am starting to ponder a relationship and here is sort of the picture in word lists:
Orion
Pleiades
Egypt Maya
Pyramids Pyramids
Sun energy Sun & Moon energy
Male Female

Note: our sun is in the Pleiadian Alcyone star spiral as the 8-th star. Thus from the core
of the galaxy to our Sun would be 1 + 8 = 9 levels. Maybe another reason the Maya
held such regard for 9. Their pyramids often have 9 levels ...hmmmm... 1 level for each
step towards the central core of the galaxy". Our Milky Way galaxy has two great spirals
coming from its center perhaps in the future we will have the birth of a third spiral arm

" Milky Way " = 38 in number and look how this relates:

3 = star "Maya" orbit from Alcyone
8 = star "Sun"    orbit from Alcyone

3 = planet "Earth"    orbit from Sun
8 = planet "Uranus" orbit from Sun

3 + 8 = 11 and we see how this relates to an octahedron (2 4-sided pyramids)

1 top
4 base points
1 center
4 base point
+ 1 top
----
11 = 3 + 8

38 written in Mayan symbols is: (20 + 18)

         
         
         
          
         
         
         
         
         
         

The 1 dot at top = 20 and the 3 bars & 3 dots = 18
this can also symbolize mayan tone and glyph where
1 is the first tone and 18 is the  18th glyph which would be
"1 Etznab" also called  White Magnetic Mirror.

The Reflection of the Goddess is in the Mirror of Love


Alice Haney - 05:41pm Mar 18, 1999 MST (#375 of 376)

38 is a very spiritual number, Mark. I will include some excerpts from my numerology files below. Also I will include a short one about the number 9.

38/11 as a personal number vibration: This is a powerful master number both spiritually and materially, as this vibration carries the gift of vision. You have achieved a perfect blend of the conscious and subconscious, which grants you a rapport with spiritual things. You are poetic and imaginative and can see things that are hidden from most other people. Through dreams and visions, you see the goals you desire. You can act upon them and bring them into reality. You have an intense, powerful spirituality, with the visionary qualities of an avatar.

The security and material advantages of the world are yours. Love, success and a happy marriage blend to create the harmony you so desire, thus allotting you the leisure time to further pursue and develop your dreams and psychic faculties.

You are a good parent dedicated to your home and family. You receive much joy from them, and you take pride in their endeavors. Through your thoughtful interest, you become an influence in the lives of others. People are affected not so much by what you say as by the example you set. Your life is a pattern they wish to emulate.

Abuse of these beautiful energies through the extravagant use of your material wealth causes problems. Deception can degenerate into immorality, at which point discord disrupts the harmony of the home and business world.

You know that true happiness comes from service to others. Material donations are not enough; you have to develop the gifts of the spirit as well. You should engage in charity work or contribute to and participate in educational programs.

Tarot Symbolism: Queen of Cups. The Queen holds the ornate cup of vision and sees in it the events in the sphere of the zodiac; therefore, the cup portrays the divine gift of reflective clairvoyance. She wears a red and blue robe that blends the conscious and subconscious minds. The cherubs on the throne represent the guardianship of the divine beings who protect and guide her.

Astrological Correspondence: Second decan Cancer. Scorpio and Pluto are underlying influences in the second decan of Cancer. You are proud, reserved and introspective. Your perception makes you a visionary, and you tend toward spirituality. The 3, the number of Jupiter, and the 8, the number of Saturn, act in combination as if the planets were in conjunct; this aspect is found in the charts of holy leaders and sages.

9 IS SELFLESSNESS and compassion. Encompassing a love for all, it desires to apply its energy to universal service. It bestows an impersonal but just view of life, one that is generous, benevolent and patient. This is the artist and thinker who has developed skills through the proceeding cycles and is now ready to share his or her knowledge with the rest of the world.

The ions are in their final state of completion. They have traveled the entire cycle of nine parts, ingesting experiences along the way. Now, in the closing cycle, they reach a total understanding and tolerance of others' views and prejudices.

9 is ready to give back to the universe some measure of what it has learned through the eight previous steps of the cycle. The law of cyclicity allows for no waste, and demands input for output. When this is done willingly, the completion experienced under 9 brings only joy at the gift of life and the freedom with which to enter the next cycle unencumbered.

Keywords: love, compassion, patience, universality, tolerance, selfless service, endings.


Mark Borcherding - 07:05pm Mar 18, 1999 MST (#376 of 376)
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Ref 375 Alice - you were writing reflections of yourself when you wrote about the 38 in your post:

"Alice Haney" = 83 (26 numerology) 83 is the mirror of 38.

Notice the 38 and 83 below for planets Earth and Uranus. The "inhale" is from outer edge of our solar system going inward to the Sun and the "exhale" is from the Sun going outward

.

Inhale

Exhale

orbit

orbit

Inhale

Exhale

orbit

orbit

10 Mercury 1
1 Pluto 10
9 Venus 2
2 Neptune 9
8 Earth 3
3 Uranus 8
7Mars 4
4 Saturn 7
6 Maldek 5
5 Jupiter 6


Mark Borcherding - 07:05pm Mar 18, 1999 MST (#376 of 384)
dare to dream upon your own star

Ref 375 Alice - you were writing reflections of yourself when you wrote about the 38 in your post:

"Alice Haney" = 83 (26 numerology) 83 is the mirror of 38.

Notice the 38 and 83 below for planets Earth and Uranus. The "inhale" is from outer edge of our solar system going inward to the Sun and the "exhale" is from the Sun going outward.

Inhale Exhale
orbit orbit
Inhale Exhale
orbit orbit
10 Mercury 1
1 Pluto 10
9 Venus 2
2 Neptune 9
8 Earth 3
3 Uranus 8
7 Mars 4
4 Saturn  7
6 Maldek 5
5Jupiter 6


Alice Haney - 08:33pm Mar 18, 1999 MST (#377 of 394)

Hi Mark, I have no knowledge of 26 numerology. I was always impressed with the 38/11 but did not have a clue that I was a "mirror of a 38 as an 83." By the system I use, the name Alice Haney is a 47/11. But this would be a Path Change Number, as my birth name is different from my married name.

The 26 numerology looks interesting. I may look into it when I have completed some of the other irons I have in the fire. I don't know if this is pertainent, but my life lesson numbers are a 57/12/3, in my system. My soul number is a 36/9, outer personality number is a 53/8, and my path of destiny number is a 17/8. I wonder what my numbers would be in your system. Love and Light to you. Alice


Alice Haney - 10:19pm Mar 18, 1999 MST (#378 of 394)

Mark, never mind about the 26 numerology, it hit me after I got off here what this is. It is Z = 26 rather than 8, correct? This is not the system I use, but it all reduces down the same. My numbers only go to 78 to correlate with the 78 cards or Tarot and the 78 decans and signs of the zodiac. In other words, 83 would be reduced to 11, and as this is a master number, would not be read as a 2, unless there is fluctuation or unable to live up to the high vibration of the 11.


Jan Newton - 06:00am Mar 19, 1999 MST (#379 of 394)

Phil, I believe Ron is in Edwardian England at the moment, sitting in the bow window at White's drinking "tay" and watching the world go by after a night on the town... Mark and Alice, all those 8's. Georgia has been inundated lately with 8's and you know my fascination for the number. Will post tonight about Hancock's take on the Osieron (I know I didn't spell that right, but I'm in a hurry just now).


Mark Borcherding - 07:07am Mar 19, 1999 MST (#380 of 394)
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 Alice I use several systems of numerology that provide different lens with which to see.
Yes you are correct 26 numerology is A = 1 ... Z = 26 and it will always reduce to the same number as 9 numerology does.

78 = the sum of the tones of the 13 Clear Signs on mayan Pacal Votan's tomb at Palenque
each clear sign is a tone & glyph.

> 57/12/3, in my system. My soul number is a 36/9, outer personality number is a
> 53/8, and my path of destiny number is a 17/8.

Alice the numbers you mention have alot of significance to me look at the numbers:

My spirit name "Foton Fonon" = 53 , I recorded a harmonic change to the Mayan calendar last year feb 13-14, 1998 and there is now 17 tones thus the center tone is 9 and the name of it is "Dreamstar" = 36 and it has 25 glyphs & 17 tones 2+5=7 , 1+7=8 forming the 78

The current mayan system has 20 glyphs and 13 tones and relating to 2013 the year after
the mayan calendar end date of 2012. The number of kin (tone & glyph combination) is
20 x 13 = 260 kin and in the Dreamstar I recorded it is 25 x 17 = 425 kin. Now we go back to the 78 everypone recall how the numbers 7 & 8 have come up often in our discussion? Look what happens when we take 7 8 and add it to its mirror:

78 + 87 = 165

425 - 260 = 165

64 + 37 + 64 = 165 (64 chess squares) , (37 sun rotational surface value)

5 x 33 = 165 ("Pacal Votan" = 33) , ( 5 = 4 directions + 1 center) 165 written in mayan dot bar symbols is: 160 (8x20) + 5 shown in this diagram:



 
             
              
              
              
              
         

 

 

3 dots + bar 5 = 8  , mayan tone: 8
 
 

bar 5 = 5th mayan glyph: Serpent "Chiccan"

 

March 19, 1999 AD is "8 Serpent" in the Mayan/Pleiadian calendar and that is
today as I write this message to you. 8 is the Galactic tone and the Serpent or 
Chiccan glyph carries the power of Life Force thus Red Galactic Serpent has 
the power of Galactic Life Force. Remember "Milky Way" = 38

4 x 38 = 152 + 13 = 165

13 + 38 + 13 = 64



Philip Mistlberger - 07:47pm Mar 19, 1999 MST (#381 of 394)

Jan, I heard a rumor that the temporary BBS server disruption today was actually caused by Ron Adams attempting to interface with our time zone from Edwardian England (your RV powers are becoming extraordinary). Unfortunately, he failed to get through, and duly returned to White's to contemplate his next "move" on the temporal chessboard grid. I believe he will be targeting Giza next with the intention to utilize the GP's energies to bolster the gain on his widget. Let's wish him luck in his next attempt to get back.

Speaking of Giza, check out the link provided by Phil Whitley on post 75 of Pyramids II. Very interesting computer simulations of the plateau, though the Sphinx seems to be missing. Note the overhead topographical view, and imagine the chessboard grid superimposed with the GP in the lower right corner.


Mark Borcherding - 08:47pm Mar 19, 1999 MST (#382 of 394)
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Ref Ron Adams ... everyone Ron is doing fine just busy with other things right now. Moving for one. I did some drumming with him last weekend with Mer and Ron's new special friend Eric. Boy has he got alot to catch up on :)

64 chess board squares

64 in computer binary code is 1000000 and we see the 1 is in the 7th position. In mayan the 0 can also be a 20 thus we can convert our 6 zeros above to 6x20 = 120 + 1 = 121 and kin 121 in the mayan Tzolkin is the entry point to the 7th column of the Tzolkin's 13 columns.


Jan Newton - 08:59pm Mar 19, 1999 MST (#383 of 394)

Dear dear Mark, we all "know" Ron is just fine. He will jump in when we need him to, and not before then. To change the subject, I knew it all along, you coy one, Mark. All those 8's popping out of your name, personal numbers, alternate name, and what have you!!! (Admit it now, you're really Katherine Neville; well, perhaps not, but darn close. YOU should write a novel too). I hope you all duly noted that tonight, March 19, 1999, was under the sign (or whatever) of the "8 Serpent", per our resident Mayan expert. Auspicious beginnings indeed, because I put my first words to the paper, so to speak, tonight, long before I checked in here to see what was happening. Yes, mon amies (my French is very rusty, I don't know if that is the correct plural of "friends" or not, but what the hell), the long awaited definitive Chess Novel is, at last, being committed to paper. I wrote the ending tonight. Now I just have to write the rest. Piece of cake! I am an educated woman. I can do this.


Jan Newton - 09:03pm Mar 19, 1999 MST (#384 of 394)

P.S. Phil, I briefly checked out WhilPhil's site, and will examine it more closely later on. When I saw the graphic you're referring to, I immediately envisioned a chess board over same. However, am having trouble with the golden mean "circles"... by the way, read more about the Osisieron at Abydos on the way home tonight, but still haven't finished Hancock's entries relating thereto, having gotten sidetracked with TCN (The Chess Novel). However, there are some fascinating numbers involved in the construction of same, which I believe Mark will be able to shed some light on. Hope to have more to report tomorrow.


Jan Newton - 09:33pm Mar 20, 1999 MST (#385 of 394)

Preliminary (very preliminary) report on the Osireion at Abydos:

(1) I think the most important thing to mention, first, is that the ancient name for "Abydos" (a Greek name, so I've seen from my researches on the 'Net) is "Aabju". When I broke that name down in "nine" numerology, it totalled "8". Why should I (or you, for that matter, gentle reader) be surprised? (a a b j u = 1+1+2+1+3 = 8). (Esoteric aside: notice the correlation between the ancient name "Aabju" and "Jan", even though the venerable Jan totals "7". My preferred handle, for my intimates, is "Xena", which totals 17, which reduces to 1+7 = 8!; and I didn't know that when I took on "Xena" as my alter-ego. Talk about psychic resonances...)

(2) The general consensus appears to be that the Osirieon was built by Seti I in circa 1300 BCE. However, Hancock, as previouly mentioned in my earlier posts, believes the structure to be of much earlier construction (he ties in into the Sphinx, and West's theories about said Sphinx being constructed approximately 13,000 - 11,000 BCE), and only "appropriated" by Seti (the ancient Egyptians had a habit of doing that, so it seems).

(3) To take a first hand look at the megalithic construction, very reminiscient of the great Mayan architecture, see this site: http://207.70.128.57/egypt/abydos.html, pictures "osiris 10 through 12 (postscript: I believe pics 1 through 9 are of Seti's much later constructed temple). It is overwhelming. The construction appears to be even more massive than that of the Great Pyramid. I am quoting here from memory now, so don't trust this figure, but I recollect Hancock stating that some of the megaliths that supported the now vanished roof were in the area of 100 tons each!!!

(4) Quoting liberally from the following site: www.tourism-egypt.com.eg/abydos.htm - Isis gathered up the pieces of Osiris's body (after he had been killed and hacked to pieces by Seth) and deposited them in the Osireion in Abydos, except for the phallus, which had been swallowed by a fish. There are "17" (there's my 8 again - 1 + 7 = 8) alcoves, in the construction of the Osireion, which I attribute to the final resting places of pieces of the recovered Osiris, minus Phallus, of course. If one counts the opening entrance into this area, this would be 18 (or 9, 1 + 8) major "orifices" of the construction. The over-roof was supported by 10 massive columns, appearing in two rows of 5 each (10 = 1 + 0, the yin/yang?).

(5) Thus, in order, we have an "8", a "9", and a "10" ("1") encoded in the construction of the Osireion.

Tres cool, n'est pas?

(6) P.S. What does this do to Hawi's "theory" about the "tomb of Osiris" he revealed to all the world on Fox T.V. as being underneath the second great pyramid at Giza?

(7) P.P.S. Now listening to the "Greatest Hits of the Three Tenors" C.D., inspiration struck: In my estimation, the correlations of the 8, 9 and 1, tie the Osireiron into The Game, i.e., Chess, which has been postulated by yours truly to pre-date the last great destruction of civilization via The Great Flood (whatever caused THAT!).


Georgia Albert - 09:40am Mar 21, 1999 MST (#386 of 394)

Jan, I am happy TCN ( The Chess Novel) is coming along so well, it sounds hot and steamy, yea! Philip, how are you coming with your book?

I was watching a Nature progam on TV yesterday and to my surprise they were talking about Ravens in England. In this clip they showed the White Castle, the legend goes that as long as Ravens live at the castle England would stand. Six Ravens are kept at this castle to this day, along with thier own caretaker. Does anyone know what is the religion of the Queen of England?

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.


Mark Borcherding - 09:46am Mar 21, 1999 MST (#387 of 394)
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 Ref: 385 - Jan

Here is another look at the number relations you are working on:

8 + 9 + 10 = 27 2+7 = 9
8+9 + 1+0 = 18 1+8 = 9

"Chess" = 3+8+5+1+1 = 18

In the words Chess we see 1, 8, and 9 (1+8)

"Love" = 3+6+4+5 = 18

Notice the numbers is the word Love 3645 is the center 2 digits as
in the 64 chess board squares. We have the 3645 days of the year.
The digits reversed is 5463 and we see the 5463 chromosomes.
We start to get that idea that Love does make the world go around
and it needs the unity of 23+23 chromosomes or the 32+32 chess
board squares.

18 = 6 + 6 + 6  now let us flip those 6's 180 degress : )

27 = 9 + 9 + 9

3 = number of Trinity
6 = number of Man
+ 9 = number of Light

_______

18 = "Heaven on Earth" : : "Let there be Light"

The Goddess of Love and Chess is Venus?


Mark Borcherding - 09:59am Mar 21, 1999 MST (#388 of 394)
dare to dream upon your own star

Ref 386 - Georgia

This will be post 388 and thus Ron's energy is working with me on posting this and he is especially fond of Ravens.

6 Ravens may symbolize the four directions + two more (up, down) , (heaven, earth), (in, out).

Tone 6 in the Mayan system is the "Rhythmic tone of Equality".

Glyph 6 is the Mayan system is called "Cimi" or "World-Bridger" and carries the power of Death. Death is an equalizer.

The 6th mayan kin in the Tzolkin is 6 Cimi and look what we get when we add the tone, glyph, and kin: 6+6+6 = 18

The Raven is the symbol that can cross between the realms and carry messages from what we call dead to what we call living. The Raven appears black on our side symbolic of Death, however, on the other side the Raven will appear White like a Dove. Like the white and black peices on the Chess board.


Jan Newton - 11:52am Mar 21, 1999 MST (#389 of 394)

Mark, you are a genius with numbers. Do you also do taxes (want a job?) Ahem. Georgia and I both believe, of course, that chess is the game of the goddess. Venus, being the goddess of love and perhaps the best known goddess to mankind in general, is an apt goddess to represent all those goddesses who came before, serving the same purpose. Your numbers are particularly fascinating in connection with the 46, being the number of chromosomes in the human genome (do I have the terminology correct? I hope so), and how it keeps cropping up in various legends from around the world, apparently arising from around the same time period 13,000 - 11,000 BCE, which was apparently a very cataclysmic period in mankind's history. All kinds of earth changes going on, and a precession of the equinoxes to boot, to Leo. Hmmm, so now we're all under the influence of Leo. That might explain a number of things. TCN is practically writing itself. I was up way past my bedtime last night, writing, and then posting, and then writing again. Now if I could just figure out a way to get one of those "channeller" persons to do the automatic typing along with funnelling words through my brain, I'd have it made... Georgia, I believe there is also a colony of ravens resident in the Tower of London. The same legend is in connection with them, as well, that if they ever leave the Tower, then England is doomed, finished forever. I believe Queen Elizabeth and kin are Church of England which, I think is called Anglican and we call it Presbyterian in this country. I finished reading Hancock's comments on the Osireion. Most interesting. Apparently it was deliberately constructed below the then existing water table, so that the "basement" is below water and water completely fills a "moat" constructed within the interior walls so that in order to get to one of the 17 "nitches", one would have had to take a boat! (Other than the legend about Osiris' phallus being swallowed by a fish, is there some other connection between Osiris and water? Or, perhaps, does this hark back to an earlier time, when Osiris and his kith and kin arrived in Egypt over the waters???) Hancock gives a very convincing argument for the Osireion NOT being constructed by Seti I in 1300 BCE. One has only to look at the massive, colossal architecture and the lack of ornamentation and decoration that so characterizes the Temple at the same site attributed to Seti I, to realize that he's right. This construct is much older. Apparently we are, again, looking at gods, goddesses and The Game that existed prior to accepted known history.


Georgia Albert - 09:53am Mar 22, 1999 MST (#390 of 394)

Jan, great information, Ravens at the Tower of London, I was wondering.... If we could get the location of the White Castle and The Tower of London, we might be able to overlay a chess board over England, and see what happens. Mark, I was thinking... could the Raven have been considered the bird of Nuit, in ancient Egypt. Ca Ca

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.


Mark Borcherding - 10:27am Mar 22, 1999 MST (#391 of 394)
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Ref 389 Jan thanks for the compliment and I really don't like doing taxes very much. recall there are also 64 codons in the I-Ching perhaps Philip will post in the future about this in relation to the pyramids & chess board.

Ref 390 Georgia ... interesting that the Raven could very well be the Bird of Nuit. The paintings of the "black madonna" and the raven being black.

"Raven" = 24 = 8+8+8

We recall our 6 ravens 4 x 6 = 24 and notice the 46 & 64 in the (4 x 6). We have our 8's and 6's, and chess board all connected thru number.

"black raven" = 35

"white raven" = 53

Notice that the numbers are mirrors of each other when we add the black and the white as in the sqaures & peices of the chess board we get:

35 + 53 = 88

64 + 24 = 88 = (3+8) x 8 = (8x8) + (3x8)

The mayan 8th glyph is "Lamet" the yellow star glyph and relates to the planet Venus. The Goddess of Love. I believe that the Egyptians and the Mayans both tracked Venus. It is known as the morning star. The dawn star. ::: "Star of the New Dawn"?


Jan Newton - 12:02pm Mar 22, 1999 MST (#392 of 394)

I don't recall if I posted this or not, so here goes (possibly, again): On the cover of the book on mythology I borrowed from the local library is an illustration of a young beautiful woman dressed in classical garb seated on a stool. She has a red cloak draped about her. She holds a harp in her left hand and a bowl in her right hand, from which she is pouring out a red colored liquid onto the ground (blood?) Perched above her right hand is a black bird that may be a crow or a raven. The source of the illustration says "centerpiece of a cup found at Delphi, from the sanctuary of Apollon, c. 470 B.C." Noticed "white raven" and "black raven" both reduce to "8"!


Philip Mistlberger - 02:29pm Mar 22, 1999 MST (#393 of 394)

All this talk about ravens has reminded me that for the last 3 years I've had a large Kwakuitl (West coast native Indian) embroidery of a raven hanging on the wall adjacent to my bed! In West coast Indian myth the raven is hugely important, one of the primal mythic creatures present at the creation of the world.

Superimposing the I Ching 64 hexagram square on the Giza-chessboard grid yields this: The Great Pyramid (squares g1-h1-g2-h2) corresponds to hexagrams 30 (LI: Fire), 38 (K'UEI: Neutrality and Disunity), 49 (KO: Revolution), and 58 (TUI: Joyousness).

Following the sequencing of that it's not hard to see meaning and pattern: Fire--Neutrality and Disunity--Revolution--Joyousness. The Great Pyramid then becomes symbolic of the archetypal Force of Change, creating necessary crisis (internal and external) needed to bring about metamorphosis and ultimate Joyousness.

The 2nd Pyramid (squares e4-e5-d4-d5) corresponds to hexagrams 2 (K'UN: The Receptive), 15 (CH'IEN: Modesty), 23 (PO: Disintegration), and 52 (KEN: Keeping Still).

Analysis: The I Ching appears to be supporting the idea that the 2nd Pyramid is a "Yin" or feminine energy, as believed by some who link it to Isis. The progression indicated by the hexagrams is from Receptive--Modesty--Disintegration--Keeping Still. This again speaks of a journey, or initiation, resulting in a breakdown (disintegration) of that which no longer serves us. The result is "keeping still", which is the essence of all descriptions of enlightenment or God/Goddess-realization. Also interesting to note is the hexagram for "keeping still", KEN, is the Hebrew pronunciation of their word for "yes".

The 3rd pyramid (straddling squares a6-a7) overlaps the Hexagrams 6 (SUNG: Conflict), and 25 (WU WANG: Simplicity).

This one is less obvious, but can be connected to the primordial battle between "mind" and "spirit", "struggle" and "flow", and "destruction" and "creation", all played out in the myth of Horus (in his struggle with Set) whom the 3rd pyramid is sometimes associated with. Also interesting re this Conflict/Simplicity dichotomy is that the 3rd pyramid was originally top-half white, bottom-half red.


Mark Borcherding - 04:43pm Mar 22, 1999 MST (#394 of 394)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Ref 393 Philip
I took your info and put into chart below and added some other things to the list:

1st Pyramid (great) 2nd Pyramid 3rd Pyramid
g1-h1-g2-h2 e4-e5-d4-d5 a6-a7

30 LI Fire
38 K'UE Neutrality
49 KO Revolution
58 TUI Joyousness

2 K'UN The Receptive
15 CH'IEN Modesty
23 PO Disintegration
52 KENKeeping Still

6 SUNG Conflict
25 WU WANG Simplicity
Male Female Child
Yang Yin Balance
Mind Spirit Will
Mer Ka Ba
Osiris Isis Horus
Orion Pleiades Velatropa (our solar system)
Mars Venus Earth
6 7 8


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Mark Borcherding - 01:19pm Mar 23, 1999 MST (#400 of 416)
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 I discovered a very interesting numeric connection between the mayan
baktun cycle of 144,000 days and Chess. Watch the numbers and
recall that a 0 can also be a 20 and that 18 = Love and 360 is circle.

20 x 20 = 400 , 18 x 20 = 360 , 400 x 360 = 144,000 days in a baktun

There are 13 baktuns between 3113bc and 2012ad

Lets look at 400 and 360 numbers in mayan symbols now:

           
         
          -O-
         
  -O-       -O-
         
   400       360

 

 

 

 

Now we just count the symbols::
1        1
2        0
0        0

Notice we can make a pyramid from these numbers:

                        2
                      1  1
                    0  0  0

Now remember that 0 can also be 20 so we have

2
1 1
20 20 20

20+20+20+1+1+2 = 64 Chess board squares



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