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Jan Newton - 12:22pm Apr 11, 1999 MST (#551 of 554) Illumani,
Mark, thanks for the Mayan word info. I will pass it along to Gerhard
and see if there are any correlations elsewhere. Philip, the horoscopes
are fascinating. One could spend hours just looking at the info you have
already posted checking out the various correlations. And I see that Alice
is a '59er. So, we have 3 51's and 3 59's. It occurred to me this morning
that the difference between our birth years is 8, which would make three
8's, 888! Where have we seen this number before! And Ron is the bridge
with his '55 birthdate, exactly in the middle of all of us! Mark Borcherding - 01:51pm Apr 11, 1999 MST (#552 of 554) dare to dream upon your own star
Alice Haney - 04:08pm Apr 11, 1999 MST (#553 of 554) Mark, I do have an Aquarian connection. My Path of Destiny Number (sum total of my birthname) is a 17/8. The number of Aquarius. I will post this meaning below. Jan (post # 543) Joseph is also a reported past life of Jesus. 17/8 as a personal number vibration. You are the researcher, the scientist, the natural detective who investigates the unseen mysteries of life. You desire truth and seek solutions to enigmas. You are intuitive and fond of the occult. You delve into the secret depths of the inner consciousness in pursuit of hidden knowledge. This relationship to the secret forces of life instills in you a quiet strength and an air of mystery. Others see you as a deep individual, as indeed you are. You are an intellectual in the beginning stages of mental unfoldment. Your intelligence and introspection necessitate periods of solitude in which to meditate. Seeds germinate in darkness before they burst into the light of day. Your ideas needs the same germination period in which to unfold. After questions, research, meditation and experimentation, your ideas begin to take form. You possess insight and a fine mind. You are very successful in pursuits which require deep concentration and enduring mental application. You deal wisely in the material world and enjoy seeing the tangible results of your mental concepts and efforts. You have hope and faith in the future and courage in the face of difficulties. You are determined to overcome any and all obstacles. Compassion for others and a desire for peace and love among all people is a product of your deep understanding of the essence of life, an understanding which surpasses worldly considerations. Your spiritual love imbues you with good health. If you are a negative 17/8 you are stubborn. Doubts bring on faithlessness and create a pessimism so that you can see no promise or light in the world. You have executive and leadership ability that can lead to a distinctive career. Researchers, discoverers, explorers, executives and aviators come under this number. You may travel often by sea or air. Because of your outstanding abilities, you may achieve fame and a name that lives on after you. Tarot Symbolism: Key 17 The Star. Fishhook, keyword for the Star, suggests the drawing of ideas from the universal subconscious. The hook relates to the subject selected for research or meditation. Revelation comes through meditation. You must still the conscious mind but keep a line on the subject chosen for meditation. Aquarius rules this key, which brings the age of revelation. The Star key explains the fifth or celestial essence, which is above and beyond the four elements of fire, earth, air and water. The great star has eight points representing rotation. The seven lesser stars refer to the seven bodily centers which are really whorls of motion and vibration. The ibis is a fishing bird, again emphasizing searching and probing. The woman represents the subconscious mind which shows that all secrets are available if you fish in the proper manner. Her left leg, holding her weight, forms a right angle or square, hinting at the number 4, order and reason. Resting on the water, her right foot shows that the mind sustains her. She pours water, her mental powers, on land and sea, indicating the pouring of knowledge over humanity everywhere. The water on land divides into five streams representing five senses. Ask yourself a question and seek the answer with calm expectancy. This is the right attitude for meditation and the proper method for gaining illumination. Astrological Correspondence: Saturn (and Aquarius). 17 has the 7 of receptivity (the Moon) and the 1 of concentration (Mars). Together they equal 8, the Saturn correspondence and the symbol of the kundalini force rising from the Saturn center at the base of the spine. These are necessary attributes for the subconscious mind to use in meditation. The Aquarian
influence brings the revelation, which 17/8 represents, and universal
consciousness, both of which are the ultimate goals of meditation. Philip Mistlberger - 04:44pm Apr 11, 1999 MST (#554 of 554) Mark, there is a link between the chessboard geometry and Aquarius, as follows: Chessboard square in Enochian magic = Mercury. In astrology, the higher "octave" of Mercury is Uranus, and Uranus "rules" Aquarius. Thus, the higher-dimensional (octave) of the 8X8=64 square is Uranus/Aquarius. The House ruled by Uranus/Aquarius is the 11th. Mercury rules Gemini. Thus, there is a direct connection between 8X8=64 - Mercury - Gemini - Uranus - Aquarius - 11th House. For all these aspects, we have Georgia -- Mercury in Aquarius Vickie -- Sun in Gemini in 11th House, Mars in Gemini in 11th House Jan -- Uranus in 11th House Philip -- Sun in 11th House, Mars in Gemini Alice -- Mercury in 11th House, MidHeaven in Gemini Mark -- Saturn in 11th House, Ascendant in Aquarius So intuitive Mark, right you are, there is plenty of Aquarian (11th House, higher octave of Mercury/Gemini) energy in this group. I realize the above may be "Greek" to some, but what it means in a nutshell is that Uranian/Aquarian energy is group-oriented, communication-oriented, highly creative and adept at synthesizing new ideas (as in a "weave"). Uranian/Aquarian energy, being the higher aspect of Mercurial/Gemini energy, represents the higher dimensional, esoteric meaning behind the abstract Mercurial energy of the 8X8=64 square, and thus chess as well.
Mark Borcherding - 07:35pm Apr 11, 1999 MST (#555 of 558) dare to dream upon your own star Ref
554 ... Philip the connection with Uranus and Aquarius makes perfect sense
3 x 8 = 24 = 8+8+8 = 888 The 20 mayan
solar glyphs can be paired with each of the 10 planets and look Eart
Blue Hand "Manik" ----------Yellow Human "Eb" Uranus
White Wind "Ik" Red Earth "Caban" Note what
you get when adding the glyph numbers: 7+12+2+17 = 38 Look what you can form with these two planet names:
"EAR To Hear ..... aURA iN US" Philip Mistlberger - 02:16pm Apr 13, 1999 MST (#556 of 565) The other important aspect to consider, re the 64 square grid, is the Moon. The reason is, that although the Enochian magick square for the chessboard geometry is that of Mercury, who is the Roman equivalent of the Greek Hermes, and although Thoth has been closely linked to Hermes, there is one important difference. Thoth was not the god of Mercury, he was the god of the Moon. We saw the numerical links between the chessboard grid and the Moon in some posts last month. The Moon placements of this group are as follows: Georgia -- Moon in Virgo in 8th House Vickie -- Moon in Aries in 10th House Jan -- Moon in Pisces in 8th House Philip -- Moon in Leo in 5th House Alice -- Moon in Aries in 7th House Mark -- Moon in Aries in 2nd House Four of six placement are in Fire, 3 of those in Aries. Interesting aspects are: Georgia -- Moon sextile Uranus Vickie -- Moon trine Pluto Jan -- Moon trine Mars Philip -- Moon trine Ascendant Alice -- Moon trine Mercury Mark -- Moon trine Mercury In the sacred geometry of astrology, the angles knowns as the "trine" (120 degrees), and the "sextile" (60 degrees) are considered harmonious placements, as opposed to the tension of the "square" (90 degrees) or the "opposition" (180 degrees). What we have here, 5 trines and 1 sextile, is highly unusual for a "random" group of 6 people, and all the more so when two (Alice and Mark) even have a direct Moon-Mercury trine. What this suggests is an ability to work in harmony together, and join the Mercurial powers (intellect, communication), with the Lunar powers (feeling, spontaneity, mystical insight). Moreover, the fact that 4 of the 6 Moon placements are in Fire signs, suggests the intuitional/spiritual purpose of this joining, with the Aries energy (3 placements) providing the self-confident aggression to express thoughts that may be subject to judgment by status-quo thinking. The Virgo-Pisces placements (Georgia/Jan) provides the practicality/mystical (180 degrees opposite) balance to temper the Fire. The Mercury-Moon connection is a big esoteric key to the hidden meanings of the 64 square geometry and the game of chess. As most of us have become aware of by now, the function of these ciphers were to enable us to "marry" our internal male-female energies, resulting in the alchemical combination that yields the truly balanced individual. This, of course, is the direction our planet needs to go in, in order to overcome the present tribulations. Kosovo becomes
an interesting metaphor for this need to unify and balance Yin/Yang, male/female
energies, in that it is a kind of fulcrum between the crushingly powerful
forces of NATO on one side, and Russia/China/India on the other. The West
and East must meet and balance in order for this planet to survive. Kosovo
is perhaps a microcosm of the current challenge we all face. Thus, the
work of the researchers in this BBS room has been a microcosm, as well,
of the kind of attitude needed for planetary understanding to arise and
flourish. Mark Borcherding - 05:53pm Apr 13, 1999 MST (#557 of 565) dare to dream upon your own star Ref 556 ... Philip very interesting thanks for you work. According to Drunvalo who began the "Flower of Life" classes, Thoth was Hermes reincarnated and he said the writings in "The Emerald Tablets" supports this idea. Number also provides us this insite: "Thoth" = 26 "The Emerald Tablets" = 62 Regarding
Alice & My "Moon trine Mercury" this is also interesting because the
mayan glyph "Muluc" also called Moon relates to the planet Mercury. The
two glyphs for Mercury are Moon and Dog and carry power of purification
and heart. Since it is the planet closest to the Sun it is the last inhale
point and the first exhale point for the breath of our Star. Vickie Ramirez - 07:36pm Apr 13, 1999 MST (#558 of 565) O Music! In your depths we deposit our hearts and souls. Thou hast taught us to see with our ears, and hear with our hearts. Hi Jan, RE POST 544: Chess Trivia: Philidor, French (and) "chess champion" for nearly 50 years, as well as leading operatic composer of France for 20 years (tie-in music and chess/mathemathetics, as we have discussed earlier in this site). Got turned on to The Game by being told what "the odds of the Rook" were when he was a mere 18 year old musical student! I do recall
reading about Philidor in The Eight. In fact I was so intrigued
by the page that described how he took the Knights Tour that he was given
and "transformed" it to music. I even copied that page from the book.
I would love to see that Tour and hear the musical composition that he
created from it. Jan Newton - 08:43pm Apr 13, 1999 MST (#559 of 565) Philip, thank you for all your work! It is fascinating. "There are no accidents. There is no such thing as coincidence". I find it especially fitting that Alice and Mark, our two numerology gurus, both have their Moons in Aries and both Moons trine to Mercury. Illumani, as soon as I have the time (ha ha ha!) I want to read a biography on Philidor. He is an absolutely fascinating person. I don't remember that part from The Eight, and I read it twice! But, of course, your focus is music because of your studies! I'm still having trouble figuring out what a "octave" is, and a "fifth" (trying to study Pythagoras and his findings concerning music and mathematics - it's a hopeless case, people!) While doing more research the other night on the Hyksos, I ran across an excellent site that talked about the Nubian kingdom of Kush and how they were allied with the Hyksos during the Hyksos' 100 year reign in Egypt. I will post about it when I go back to "History Lessons". Kush (Cush), was the father of Nimrod. Cool, isn't it, how things are coming together! Philip, there
is no feminine energy emanating either from Kosovo or the "sides". While
I greatly admire Madeline Albright for all she has accomplished, she is
a man in skirts (like Captain Janeway in Star Trek Voyager), and she/he
is not calling the shots in any event. What I want to know is who's going
to play the role of Borg Queen? At this point, I think that's "she's"
the only person who can resolve the situation. I know, I know, she's the
"woman" we all love to hate, right? "Evil incarnate" and all that jazz.
But "she's" purely feminine, no matter what we might think of her taste
in clothes! With the "menfolk" playing "Chicken" with missiles and lives,
who else but the Borg Queen would be strong and "ballsy" enough to go
in and lay down the law? Interesting, isn't it, how the two true females
in the Voyager series are cast (1) as an evil Queen Bee who wants to turn
everyone into a mindless drone and (2) as a former Borg who is now trying
to discover her "humanity". I suppose that says everything that needs
be said about our "western" mindset... Philip Mistlberger - 11:00pm Apr 13, 1999 MST (#560 of 565) Jan, that was pretty juicy writing. Perhaps that could be a Xena soliliquay in your novel. But I agree, not much feminine energy there. There is actually a strong feminine "vibe" in many parts of the East (especially India, and parts of south east Asia), but unfortunately it is not exactly "activated", and in any case the whole thing may spiral out of control. In terms of chess, though, it may indeed be that Yugoslavia is only the pawn... Not sure
if this was mentioned before here, but "odds of the Rook", or "Rook odds",
refers to a gambit offered by a stronger player who volunteers to play
without one of his rooks. Jan Newton - 04:56am Apr 14, 1999 MST (#561 of 565) Philip, I
am inspired by The White Goddess and Graves' wonderful voice! "Odds of
the Rook", now I understand the hook that was used to get Philidor interested
in The Game. Quite a handicap, but there's no way I'm going to try and
calculate the odds! I have become fascinated by the Rook. One of these
days I'm going to track down more information about the transformation
of the rook from a chariot into a tower. Jan Newton - 07:24am Apr 14, 1999 MST (#562 of 565) Ricardo has posed the following question: Why not the number 13? It seems counter-intuitive to me. However, he has pointed out that "the magic squares on the chess board give the constant sum of 260". Also, he points out that 26 is the gematria for the Tetragrammaton JHWH, and 13 crops up repeatedly in the Hebrew Scriptures (I won't cite Ricardo's examples). So, I bit the bullet and on the ride down to work this morning I came up with the following probably most obvious connections to 13, the Bible and The Game: (1) The 12 apostles and Jesus Christ = 13; (2) The King (1), plus the Advisor/Queen = Elohim (2), plus (3) pairs of two officers (rooks, knights, bishops) = (1+2+3)= 6; plus 7 as the maximum number of squares the most powerful pieces on the board can move at one time = 13. (3) Types of chess pieces: 5 officers (King, Advisor/Queen, bishop, knight, rook) plus the pawn = 6; plus 7 (max. number of moves noted in above example) = 13. Multiply examples 2 and 3 by two (for the two sides of the board) = 26. Do you all
see any other 13's or 26's in The Game? Does anyone know of any written
references to 13 or 26 (also might be multiples of 13 or 26) that we can
send to researcher Ricardo? Jan Newton - 10:10am Apr 14, 1999 MST (#563 of 565) Thirteens
unrelated to chess: (1) 13 original American colonies; (2) 13 is the age
a young Jew reaches manhood or womanhood (bar or bat mitzvah); (3) 13
is the first "teen" year; (14) The 13 Principles of Jewish Medical Ethics
of Harofei Yaakov Ben Ben-Tzion Halevi (don't ask me, I just find the
stuff) Mark Borcherding - 11:11am Apr 14, 1999 MST (#564 of 565) dare to dream upon your own star Jan regarding 13 "the magic squares on the chess board give the constant sum of 260". 13 x 20 = 260 number of kin in mayan tzolkin calendar Now to relate to the 64 sqaures of Chess board recall that we also have "1" board that unifies everything. 64 + 1 = 65 5 x 13 = 65 Note the 5 relates to our body and pyramid 1 top + 4 points. Note 5+13 = 18 = "Chess" The 5 also relates to a pentagram and thus a dodecahedron. Regarded as a feminine type geometrical energy. In Mayan
cosmology the 13 is the 13 tones each symbolizing a major harmonic of
reality. Each of the tones is paired 1&13, 2&12, and so on ..
however when you get to the center tone of 7 it pairs with itself. What
position does Christ occupy in the painting "The Last Supper"? Philip Mistlberger - 12:13pm Apr 14, 1999 MST (#565 of 565) Jan, post 562, very interesting connections. I know, for an experiential fact, that there is something potent about the numbers 12 and 13. Over the years I have led many personal growth workshops, ranging in sizes from 4 or 5 up to over 40. Almost always, without fail, I've noticed that critical mass (for achieving truly powerful results) occurs when there are over 12 people -- i.e., 13 -- in the room. Not that smaller numbers are insignificant, but what happens with 13 is that the energy in the room becomes self-sustaining, meaning it does not require an external boost of energy. Thus, "13" could be a symbol for accessing spiritual or higher truth from within, rather than being dependent on an outside source or "authority". Also, the four corners of the 64 magick square sum to 130. The four corners are the Rooks. The Rooks are the 4 Watchtowers of the Elizabethan Magus John Dee's Enochian system of Archangelic magick. They correspond to the 4 elements. Thus, the relationship between the 4 Rooks and the self-empowering number 13 may hint at the importance of being in touch with, and balancing, the 4 four elements and their corresponding psychological functions (intuition, feeling, thinking, sensation, or spirit, heart, mind, body) within us. The essence of Graves' work, if I recall, is that the "White Goddess" is the Moon goddess, an ancient deity that became supplanted in time by the Apollonian Solar god. Thus, we lost, in time, the ability to "see" the whole picture with "lunar" (intuitive) eyes, instead dividing and analayzing things to death (solar, rational). Interesting, in light of Thoth's association with the Moon. And remember Ma'at, Thoth's counterpart, the Vulture Goddess of Justice and Truth. Mark, I read the other day that the Serbian word for "peace" is the same as your wife's name....
Jan Newton - 04:58pm Apr 14, 1999 MST (#566 of 777) Thank you, Mark and Philip. If anything more comes to mind, post post post! How about 26 letters of the alphabet? Where'd that come from anyway? No other alphabet I'm aware of seems to have that many letters. Philip, your summing of the four corners of the Thoth Magic Square reminded me of something I'd read about magic squares in general. So, I pulled out the calculator and, sure enough, if you divide the square into half and add the four numbers on either side of the dividing line, they will total 130. It doesn't matter if it's a rank or a file. Further, if you take the first two numbers on one side of the line, and the two successive numbers on the other side of the line, those 4 will also equal 130. And the 4 squares right in the middle of the board, 29, 28, 37 and 36, also equal 130. I'm starting to get dizzy. Look at the Thoth square that Mark formatted for us. Imagine yourself one square in from the 8, 1, 57, and 64 corners, so that the corners are now 15, 10, 50 and 55. Total is 130. Come in another square, so the corners are now 22, 19, 43 and 46. Total is 130. Come in another square and you get the center 29, 28, 36 and 37, which I totalled earlier as 130. It seems that as long as you maintain symmetry in selecting the numbers on either side of the dividing line, the total will be 130. For example, look at the second from bottom that is 9, 55, 54, 12, 13, 51, 50 and 16. The dividing line would be between 12 and 13. If you add 9, 55, 16 and 50, you get 130. If you take 55, 12, 13 and 50, you get 130. I'm sure there are many more 130's that I haven't seen. That's it,
I'm going to do my taxes now. Jan Newton - 09:23pm Apr 14, 1999 MST (#567 of 575) I have done my taxes, FINALLY!!! (Let's hear a round of the Hallelujah Chorus!) I'm getting a total refund of $2,171.00 (state $632 and federal $1539). Can't figure it out. I made about $8,000 more this year than last year, and I still get a bigger refund? Go figure.... Wait a minute, oh s--t! I'm not telling a fib here people, I am really getting $2,171.00 back total refund and, look at this! 2171\167 = 13!!! I have decided that I am going to go back to college and major in proto-Indo-European language. Forget this law nonsense. Forget mathematics. I feel the call of the Ekhos! (Can I get a neighhhhhhhh! in the chorus...) The 130 symmetry also works within each of the diagonals, e.g., 8 + 22 + 43 + 57 = 130. I am beginning to suspect that Ricardo pulled a fast one on me. Isis came up with some wonderful examples of 13, but I will let her post them in her own words. By the way,
Alice, a big thank you from Ricardo for the "personal number lesson" you
sent to me, which I forwarded to him. It was much appreciated! Ricardo
isn't quite sure he believes in all of this, you must understand! However,
if he hangs around with us long enough, we will convert him. Where the
heck else could a long distance research assistant come up with a 2171
connection when she wasn't even trying! I knew there had to be a reason
I procrastinated so long in doing those blankety blank blank taxes!!!
Bast is sitting next to the speaker at the left of the computer screen
purrrrrring away and smiing at me... Jan Newton - 09:30pm Apr 14, 1999 MST (#568 of 575) Whoa! You
want to talk scary! I just divided 2171 by 26 and came up with 83.5! Look
at it! 8 + (3 + 5) = 8 + 8! Double chess number. Reduces to 7 (8+3+5=
16 = 1+6 = 7). THAT'S IT! I'M OUTTA HERE... Mark Borcherding - 05:10am Apr 15, 1999 MST (#569 of 575) dare to dream upon your own star Jan to follow on your 130 musings in mayan the tzolkin 260 matrix is called the "resonant holon" and it is possible to do a calculation where the 260 kin are represented by a single kin/number and guess what it is? ............... 130 kin 130 in the sacred mayan tzolkin is "13 Oc" also called "White Cosmic Dog" and it carries the power of Heart. COSMIC LOVE Regarding your 8 3 5 look what planet orbits these are starting closest to the Sun: 3 = Earth 5 = Maldek (asteriod belt) 8 = Uranus I read in Drunvalo's book "The Ancient Mysteries of the Flower of Life" that the summerian record claims that asteriod belt was part of Earth when it was known as "Tiamat" and in 26 numerology "Tiamat" = 64. In 9 numerology "Taimat" = 19 and there are 19 circles in the "Flower of Life" symbol. This symbol is found in the pyramids all over Earth and it is also found in the center of the floor of the Essene church at Mount Carmel. Look what
happens when we sum the two values for "Tiamat" 19+64 = 83 , 83 of the
8(5)3 Philip Mistlberger - 10:34am Apr 15, 1999 MST (#570 of 575) Good Lord Mark, do you realize what you're doing? By raising the spectre of Sitchin, Sumerian records, Tiamat, and planet Nibiru you're inviting in.....oh never mind. Jan, calm down, have a coffee or something. (-; You're right
about the 130 number being found everywhere in the Mercury Magick square,
Jan. I've been looking into the Enochian Watchtower magick of John Dee,
who evidently received an entire new language from archangelic communication
in Poland around the year 1580, but was given much of the information
incorrectly in order to prevent the "unworthy" from deciphering it! One
can only wonder what was being deciphered.... Jan Newton - 11:15am Apr 15, 1999 MST (#571 of 575) Philip, I
cannot drink regular coffee anymore, I can't have the caffeine (sob, sob!)
If the information given by the so-called archangel was purposely distorted
right from the beginning, of what possible use could it ever be, even
assuming you believed the source! I am at a point in The White Goddess
where Graves is discussing the use of "magic mushrooms" in ancient mystic
rites. Must be what Dee was on at the time the archangel contacted him!
I am going to check Bonnie Gaunt's book to see if 2171 and/or 835 are
mentioned. Mark, the number/astrological connection is intriguing. This
is I'm sure a dumb question at this point, since you've been posting about
items Mayan from the very beginning of the weave, but what exactly is
a Mayan tzolkin? I thought it had something to do with the Mayan calendar,
but now I'm not sure what it is! I have also decided to order a book (yes,
another one, besides the 4 I already ordered this morning) on mathematics
for dummies. It is supposed to make mathematics "fun"! Gee, I can hardly
wait! Mark Borcherding - 02:50pm Apr 15, 1999 MST (#572 of 575) dare to dream upon your own star Jan
the Mayan Tzolkin is just a matrix of the 260 combinations of the 13 tones
and 20 solar glyphs.
Philip Mistlberger - 03:51pm Apr 15, 1999 MST (#573 of 575) Interesting, Mark, that the asteroid belt corresponds to the Serpent. Bode's Law predicted that a planet should have been where the asteroid belt is, and many researchers have long suspected that something happened to a planet there. However, the fact is that the entire accumulated mass of the known asteroids only amounts to 1/4 the mass of our Moon, not enough for a planet. So, either something has not been found, or Scottie's transporters beamed up all the matter, or there never was a planet there. In any case, the asteroid belt is something of a mystery and a mathematical anomaly, thus interesting that the Mayans link it with the Serpent, perhaps most mysterious of the archetypes. Jan, Dee
may well have been on mushrooms when he was visited. However, that would
mean that the contemporary occult numerologist David Hulse, who claims
to have successfully deciphered Dee's Enochian messages, must have been
on even stronger stuff! Jan Newton - 04:43pm Apr 15, 1999 MST (#574 of 575) Philip, darling, you will not tempt me into touching that last line with a ten foot pole! I did some research on the alphabet today. Good old Funk and Wagnall's dictionary was most informative. The name "alphabet" comes from the first two letters of the Greek alphabet, alpha and beta! If I ever knew that, I forgot it a long time ago. The article noted the different types of systems devised over the eons: (1) an alphabet, which is a set of written symbols "each representing a given sound or sounds, which can be variously combined to form all the words of a language"; (2) syllabaries, where a collection of syllables "usually a sequence of from one to four spoken sounds pronounced as an uninterrupted unit", is represented by a single symbol; (3) pictographic, such as the Chinese, which represents picturable objects for the spoken word; and (4) ideographic, which combines "various pictographs for the purpsoe of indicating nonpicturable ideas". Very cool! Our English alphabet is derived from the Roman -- I was amazed at how identical "ours" is from "theirs" -- which, in turn, was derived from the Greek which, in turn, was derived from the Phoenecian which, in turn, was derived from the Canaanite which, in turn was derived from the "north Semitic alphabet" circa 1700-1500 BCE, although there is a little controversy about this; some scholars believe there was a separate and independently created alphabet called the "south Semitic alphabet" (of course!), and that perhaps both alphabets derived from a common but as yet unknown ancestor (how often this common ancestor keeps cropping up! Can we say "Babel"?) The article goes on to say that the early Semite alphabet had already developed by 1000 BCE into four branches, the South Semitic (re controversy above), Canaanite, Aramaic, and Greek. The Aramaic branch "became the basis of Semitic and non-Semitic scripts throughout western Asia. The non-Semitic group was the basis of the alphabets of nearly all Indian scripts; the Semitic subbranch includes Square Hebrew, which superseded Early Hebrew to become the prototype of modern Hebrew writing". Why 26 letters?
The Roman alphabet, based on the Greek, included vowel sounds, where the
North Semitic did not. However, I don't quite understand this, because
the first letter of the North Semitic alphabet, and the Square Hebrew
alphabet as well, is "Alef", which became the Greek "alpha", which became
the Roman "A", and that's definitely a vowel sound. In any event, the
North Semitic and Square Hebrew alphabets have 22 letters each. Interestingly,
the Arabic alphabet also excludes vowel sounds, and has 28 consonants.
More later, I found an interesting little tidbit about "13". Jan Newton - 04:45pm Apr 15, 1999 MST (#575 of 575) Oops, it was Funk and Wagnall's encyclopedia, of course, not dictionary!
Mark Borcherding - 07:52pm Apr 15, 1999 MST (#576 of 589) dare to dream upon your own star Ref
573 Philip good point about the mass of the asteroid belt. Where could
some of it went? Yes, if you
look at the Mayans and many other cultures you will find the serpent (snake)
The other
mayan glyph for the Asteriod belt was Wizard what would that be in Jan Newton - 07:56pm Apr 15, 1999 MST (#577 of 589) Like the Great White Shark in "Jaws", I'm back! Interesting point I ran across while researching the alphabet. The English alphabet, being essentially the Roman alphabet, moved around the positions of some of the ancient Hebrew and Greek letters upon which it was based, and we no longer "have the number value system of the Hebrew and Greek in the English structure today". We did not retain either the Hebrew or Greek numbering system, but imported the Arabic system for numbers. Thus, English numerology is essentially worthless from the ancients' point of view! In addition, in the original Greek or Hebrew "the numeric value of a letter or word counted is assigned in two ways. The place position of the letter in the alphabet and the value of its place. "To thoroughly well-read a name, one has the values and the sums of the values to contend with as well as the place numbers and the sum of the place numbers. The sums, the partial sums and the 'enfolded' sums also have great significance". The site went on to briefly discuss the numeric values of the Hebrew letters, which ranged from 1 to 400 (the system Bonnie Gaunt uses in the book I'm reading now on Stonehenge and the Great Pyramid). This same site also stated "M is still 13, the number of sin, which in both Greek and Hebrew is in the same 13th position with the value of 40 for testing and trial. Sin hasn't changed, in place of value, in any of the three languages". The Funk and Wagnall's entry on alphabet contained a comparative chart of the Semitic names of the letters, the North Semitic, Square Hebrew, Greek names of the letters, and the Greek, Cyrillic and Roman alphabets. It's true that in the North Semitic and Square Hebrew alphabets, the equivalent letter "M" is 13th. However, at least on the F&W chart, it is not 13th in the Greek alphabet, but 14th. I don't know if the explanation for this difference is innocent or not. If you want to check out the site, it is http://cust2.iamerica.net/scap/english.htm. It gives no reference to support its statement that the "M" connotes "sin", but I am assuming it is based on the Kaballah. Anyone know about the Kaballah numerology? In any event, this seems diametrically opposed to the meaning of 26! The History
Lessons will continue this weekend. I know, you all can hardly wait! Georgia Albert - 08:38pm Apr 15, 1999 MST (#578 of 589) Purrrr And now for one of my favorite numbers 13, the number of the Goddess. Let us go to the Goddesses Calander, standard deck of playing cards, 13 months and there are 13 full moons in a solar year. At one time 13 was a base for a counting, a remnent of this system is the bakers dozen, 13. A remnent of the 12 based number system is a dozen, 12. The number 13 is also associated with cannabis, I remember in the sixties the symbol for cannabis was 13. The MiV, up to their old tricks again, tagged bad luck to 13 because it was the Goddesses number. Those naughty boys. LOVE G May 13 Always
be with You. Mark Borcherding - 04:17am Apr 16, 1999 MST (#579 of 589) dare to dream upon your own star Ref 577 & 578 Jan & Georgia, 2 x 13 = 26 and in mayan cosmology 13+13 is a pair of 13 tones sequences indicating flow both ways (giving & recieving) in equal balance or exchange. Also called (yang & yin) or as in post 576 microcosm & macrocosm. I have seen a method with a cone and light that ALL letters of every "ALL-Phabet" can be produced. Symbolizing the one-ness that every language springs from. In "9" numerology my full name = 93 = 12 = 3 In Hebrew number my full name = 876 = 21 = 3 Together they form 33 this is the -center- of the Mayan harmonic super-numer "13 66 560" 1+3+6+6+5+6+0 = 27 = 9+9+9 (Trinity) 27 in Bonnie Guant's book that Jan is reading is the number of "Light". Trinity = God, Child, Goddess. Who are the Children of Light? Gifts
of the Goddess Heart for You Mark Borcherding - 05:21am Apr 16, 1999 MST (#580 of 589) dare to dream upon your own star Ref
579, I mentioned the number 13 66 560 look what happens when you divide
Note: we divided by "13" 9's. 9 x 13 = 117 kin 117 in
the mayan tzolkin is 13 Caban or "Red Cosmic Earth" signifying the
Now there must be a Chess realtionship here somewhere: 64 + 53 = 117 We know the 8x8=64 do you recall what 53 was? 5+3 = 8 53 = 52 weeks + 1 day 53 = 27 + 26 (light + galactic fractal) 53 = 13+13 + 1 + 13+13 (5 pyramid points) 53 / 9 = 5.888888888888888.... 53 = "foton fonon" Foton Fonon
means "Sound of Light" Jan Newton - 11:08am Apr 16, 1999 MST (#581 of 589) Mark, 5.88888... reminds me of an octave and a fifth (8 + 5), and that is 13 tones. We need Illumani here to tell us more about music and its relation to numbers. I also found a reference to 13 in connection with an ancient cave carving: Laussel's Lady With Bison Horn, Old Stone Age Era circa 22,000-18,000 BCE from Laussel, Dordogne, France. "Her right hand holds a lunar, crescent shaped bison horn with 13 carved lines... . Historical scholars believe our prehistoric ancestors had already correlated the lunar cycles with the female monthly cycles". Well, duh! It would be awfully hard not to, particulary if you get a menstrual cycle every month, guys! If you want to check out Laussel's Lady, the site is at www.grammarose.com. The site contains representations of females and goddesses going way way back up to the present with "Barbiedorf" (Barbiedorf, I believe, will speak for herself if you look at her representation). The 13 in connection with a woman's monthly cycles appears to be in distinct opposition to the very patriarchal 26; and yet the word "Elohim" , which is a plural form, is representative of both masculine and feminine qualities. So, Elohim may represent Mark's 13 and 13 - one half representing the feminine and one half representing the masculine; only, the MIV forgot to tell everyone about that! Ricardo would probably tell me I'm being fanciful because I keep interjecting the feminine into The Game! But that's where the numbers keep leading us. Okay, how
would mathematics determine the moves of the pieces? I haven't a clue.
At first I thought if I plotted out a series of triangulate numbers (think
"bowling pin set-up" and "billard balls set-up" - those are representations
of triangulate numbers 10 and 15) over the chess board I could simply
connect up the dots and see what happened. Maybe it does work, but it's
beyond me how to do it, because every other line of dots falls mid-square,
not on the corner of a square. So??? And 10 and 15 appear to have nothing
to do with 13. I am now calling on an ancient and venerable stereotype:
men are supposed to be good at this numbers stuff. So, come on guys, help
me out here and come up with something!!! Pretty please with a cherry
on top! Mark Borcherding - 03:21pm Apr 16, 1999 MST (#582 of 589) dare to dream upon your own star Ref 581 Jan ... actually numbers used in a creative way requires both male and female outlooks. "10 & 15 nothing to do with 13" 10+15 = 25 Look at the
two rows of numbers one starts at 0 (female) the other
1 (male) and look where
Look what else we can see with our 10&15 = 25
What about
our Chess board? 64 = 25 + 7 + 7 + 25 Jan Newton - 06:18pm Apr 16, 1999 MST (#583 of 589) Sorry, you've
totally lost me Mark. I give up. Forget numbers. I'm going to the damned
nunnery. Mark Borcherding - 07:35pm Apr 16, 1999 MST (#584 of 589) dare to dream upon your own star Jan ref 583 perhaps it would help not to think of them as numbers but like crayons with which you can draw. Numbers are no different from putting words together to make a sentence. They are symbols that can provide meaning. Look back at post 582 notice the 5's in the colors red-east, white-north, blue-west, yeloow-south, green-center. The 25 can represent "five" (4-sided pyramids + 1 top) thus there would be a red pyramid, whte pyramid, blue pyramid, yellow pyramid, and the top "green" pyramid. We can add the 5's in a row or column and they will = 15 however if we leave out the "green" 5 then we would get 10. There is your 5 & 10 you were asking about. Hmmmm.....
a "Xena Nun" Paul Bilyeu - 01:56am Apr 17, 1999 MST (#585 of 589) <^> <^> <^> <^> TEOTWAWKI 2000 <^> <^> <^> <^> Jan..........just an idea on the link between math and possible moves per @ piece. There is a class of so-called "space filling" curves in the field of fractal mathematics which certainly appear applicable to chess piece movement rules. The Hilbert curve would seem to plot out the path to be followed by the king if it had to visit every square. The Sierpinski curve may apply to the bishop. Mandelbrot, et al. have much to say and simulate on these curves. .............the
common origin of the chess and ouija boards seems possible, at least from
the Chinese contribution. The shapes of the pieces may have resonated
and reacted to different vibrations and this may account for the unique
pattern of moving a particular piece. Mark Borcherding - 07:27am Apr 17, 1999 MST (#586 of 589) dare to dream upon your own star Jan
... sorry I completely missed intuition that perhaps is behind your 10
& 15 that you brought up.
Jan Newton - 10:41am Apr 17, 1999 MST (#587 of 589) I am writing from the communal living center at the St. Anne's Home for Retired Sisters of Mercy, so my time on the computer is limited - we all share one, you understand. The Sisters are trying me out, to see if I have the right kind of temperament (Mother Superior thinks not, I suspect she's right), and I am teaching them some of the simpler Zena moves as part of our aerobic exercise routine. Sir Paul, If I ever heard of the curves you mentioned in post 585, I have long since forgotten them. I took math all through high school and one year in college, but that was many moons ago, and I have had no call to use my one semester of college calculus in everyday life. However, the information you posted may make sense to Ricardo Calvo, since he is linking mathematics and magic squares to the moves of the chess pieces. It is interesting that you brought up the Chinese contribution to chess being originally from a divination standpoint (reference to the ouija board); I have read that too, although I didn't print out the article, perhaps it was at the Josten website. It was a fascinating article about how magnetite was used to float small items on water and how the process may have evolved into xiang 'qi and had an influence on the game we know today via the Silk Road. Mark, if
I never see another number as long as I live it will be too soon. I use
them to balance my checkbook and keep track of my investments (am I making
money? am I not? then we move some investments) - that it the extent of
my dealings with numbers. Except when the book I ordered on sacred geometry
for dummies gets here I will read that! I understand that everything can
be reduced to a series of equations, but why would anyone want to do that?
Does it make one understand a flower better to reduce it to a series of
numbers? The one thing all this mucking about looking for 13s and 26s
and mathematical patterns in triangles and rectangles has done for me
is make me realize that, although perhaps mathmatics had a part in determining
the original moves of the pieces, it really doesn't have anything to do
with how one actually plays The Game. Got to go, time for Vespers. Mark Borcherding - 12:05pm Apr 17, 1999 MST (#588 of 589) dare to dream upon your own star ref 587 ...
Jan you are correct that you can appreciate and enjoy anything without
ever thinking of a number. But we do benefit from knowing the cycle of
a day or the moon. There are many levels at which to appreciate a flower
and all of those levels give us insights. Perhaps your book on sacred
geometry will provide more insite than I have. Georgia Albert - 12:08pm Apr 17, 1999 MST (#589 of 589) Ref.#587 Jan, that was very interesting about magnetite, remember that the crystal of magnetite is octohedral, it also has natural magnetic properties. I was reading about I Ching and it was mentioned that the sticks used were made of Yarrow. I found a connection with the Goddess and the I Ching sticks. I found this information in the book A-Z of Traditional Herbal Remedies by Micheal Howard. Folklore: The generic name comes from the classical legend that the Greek hero Achilles used to make poultices from its leaves to treat his warriors after a battle. It has been traditionally used to heal open wounds and stop the flow of blood, hence its popular name of woundwort. In Scandinavian countries it was sometimes used as a substitute for hops. In folklore, yarrow stems featured in divination: young women sewed an ounce of it into a sachet and, placing it under their pillows at night, said, Thou pretty herb of the Venus tree, Thy true name is Yarrow. Who is my true boson friend to be? Pray tell me tomorrow. They then allegedly went to sleep and dreamed of their future lover. The yarrow used in this love charm had to be picked from a graveyard on the night of the full moon. Yarrow leaves were ofter hung above the cradles of new-born babies in country districts to protect them from evil spirits. Interesting that the Scandinavians and the Chinese used the stems of the Yarrow for divination. Hmmmmmmm LOVE G May 13 Always be with You.
Jan Newton - 03:06pm Apr 17, 1999 MST (#590 of 777) Maybe the
book on sacred geometry will help, Mark, but I think I have a short-circuit
in my brain. I meant no offense. I actually used to understand mathematics,
I used to enjoy factoring polynomial equations! But I think too much dust
from the law books over the years has ruined me irretrievably, you know,
sort of like that psychotropic dust that floats off of certain mushrooms
and gets into the brain forever! The only calculations I do nowadays are
percentages - always percentages! And if I get accepted by the Sisters
of Mercy as a novice I doubt I'll be doing many percentages, since they
take a vow of poverty! I will have to give up all of my possessions, though
I will keep my 14.95 geniune wood chess set. Georgia, Yarrow tied to Venus?
That's an interesting connection, because of Venus' connection to The
Game. I know people in the middle ages used to drink a tea made with Yarrow
as a spring tonic, to cleanse out the system of whatever ailed it. Perhaps
that's what I need! Unfortunately, my Yarrow won't be ready for picking
greens for at least a couple of more weeks. Dang, should have saved the
flower heads from last season. What is a Queen's Gambit? Is there more
than one? Jan Newton - 04:46pm Apr 17, 1999 MST (#591 of 592) I have heard
from Gerhard. He sent me some astounding images, one which "shows an Egyptian
Venus as Goddess of the game", and another which "shows that the bishop
once was a lady or even a queen though all historians postulate that this
piece was an abstract figure of an elephant". If you see the pieces you
will see that they are definitely not elephants! I have asked him for
further info and a website where these can be found, if possible. Otherwise,
if you want to view them I can e-mail them to you. Has anyone ever heard
of the Sumerian "Holy Wedding" between Ishtar (symbolizing heaven) and
Tammuz (symbolizing earth)? And isn't that a switch, here we have a Queen
of Heaven (female) and a male connected to the Earth! Don't you just love
it! In my researches in the Transcaucasus area, I did discover two female
Sun Goddesses, but I can't put my hands on the printouts right now to
post their names and backgrounds (wouldn't you just know it). I will dig
through my pile of research and attempt to get organized here. By the
way, I have been invited to leave St. Anne's Retirement Home for the Sisters
of Mercy! Oh well. Vickie Ramirez - 07:39pm Apr 17, 1999 MST (#592 of 592) O Music! In your depths we deposit our hearts and souls. Thou hast taught us to see with our ears, and hear with our hearts. THE MUSICAL CONNECTION Hi Jan, to try and offer some ideas about a musical connection to the game, the musical Octave demonstrates the Fibonacci Spiral as well as relates to Ancient Reckoning Systems. From a musical vibration standpoint the Overtone Fifth is part of what is called the overtone series. This series is a the sequence of vibrations that are based on the whole number series (1,2,3,4,5,6....infinite) When a natural substance vibrates, all the frequencies of the overtone series vibrate at once, but the lowest pitch called the Fundamental (1) predominates and becomes the tone that we hear. The second overtone is the octave (2) which vibrates at twice the frequency of the fundamental. After the octave is the Overtone Fifth which vibrates at three times the fundamental. If you then take the overtone of the overtone and proceed onward, you will never come back to the same tone. It spirals outward into infinity. (Back to Pythagorus, the Fibonacci Spiral, the 8) On a piano though the keys are not tuned to the perfect overtone resonances. But it will still take you twelve times before you come back to the pitch you started on (the 13th). This is what is called the Circle of Fifths. In the Mayan Tzolkin Calendar, the Fifth is always the same color code as the first. This is also true for the Ninth (Solar) and 13th (Cosmic). Together these make the 4D Time Pulsar which are the towers of the Wavespell (1,5,9,13). Within the chromatic scale these numbers translate to what is called an Augmented Triad. This is a perfectly symetrical chord built on major thirds. There are four of them that are possible making up four dimensions and a Star of David within a Star of David. Studies being made are finding the perfect harmonics and vibration of the musical scale follow the Ancient Reckoning Systems. For instance A tuned to 432 Hz relates to a series of numeric relationships. 432 is a cycle of time number (consecration in Gematrian). It harmonically aligns to astronomical time count of Precession of the equinoxes. D# = 153 a very significant number. Excerpt from Music, Stonehenge and The Great Pyramid by James Furia D# = 152.89924 cycles per second, the augmented 4th from its root "A." This interval was outlawed a few hundred years ago. Divide by pi = the radius of the inner circle of Stonehenge. Multiplied by pi = height of the Great Pyramid. Also, this note is extremely close to the number 153, an ancient Pythagorean story problem that we of "The Code" have solved. Found in The Bible, John Chap 21, Jesus returns from the dead and mentions this highly significant number to some of the apostles. What we discovered recently is that the entrance to the Great Pyramid is at the 17th course (level) 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+17 = 153 17 X 9 (total pyramids at the Giza complex) = 153 204 (total courses of stone on the Great Pyramid) / 1.3333333(a 4th in music intervals) = 153 360 feet up the Great Pyramid is the 153rd course The length of the grand gallery inside the Great Pyramid is 153 feet 153 + 513 = 666 6 x 6 x 6 = 216(new standard) 315 + 351 = 666 2160 miles is the diameter of the moon 135 + 531 = 666 (not the devil but astronomy) 1 and 5 and 3 are the degrees in a scale used to make a chord James Furia For further information check: The Code of Carl Munch Ilumani
Mark Borcherding - 09:22pm Apr 17, 1999 MST (#593 of 602) dare to dream upon your own star Ref 590 ... Jan I think you have made wonderful contributions to this discussion both in number and non-number form. I bet you have alot to say about sacred geometry in the future. I cannot wait to hear what you discover. Vickie nice job ... what happens when the "Star of David" is made 3 dimensional? 153 = 1+5+3
= 9 which was a significant number to the Mayans and also is in Bonnie
Gaunt's book on Stonehenge and the Great Pyramid. 64+25+64 = (8x8)+(5x5)+(8x8)
= 153 Jan Newton - 05:23am Apr 18, 1999 MST (#594 of 602) Ilumani, how could someone outlaw a musical note (D#)? Did Furia give any reference for this statement in his book? This is very interesting! I don't understand about the Overtone Fifth. If an octave is 8 notes, why wouldn't you get back to the first note, only on a higher scale, on the 9th key? I will have to find someone to show me on a piano why this is so, I can't "hear" it in my head. I did some research on Yarrow, it is fascinating. Check out www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/y/yarrow02.html for the full info. Among other names, it was also known as Nose Bleed, Carpenter's Weed, Staunchweed, Devil's Nettle, Devil's Plaything, Bad Man's Plaything, and Herbe Militaris. This site also contains the rhyme Georgia found and the practice of putting a sachet of Yarrow under the pillow to have a vision of a future husband or wife. I tried to find a connection of Venus to Yarrow, because I was intrigued by the line "Thou pretty herb of Venus' tree", however, I found no direct connection; possibly it is merely because Venus is considered the Goddess of love. I did find that Venus was originally a vegetation goddess and patroness of gardens and vineyards (Encyclopedia Mythica), so that is a possible connection. I also found the name of the Chinese Emperor credited with inventing the casting of oracles by the use of yarrow stalks: Fu Xi (Fu Hsi)(also from the Encyclopedia Mythica): "The first of three noble emperors, the San-huang... According to tradition he ruled from 2952-2836 BCE (116 years) or from 2852-2737 BCE (115 years). Fu Xi taught mankind many arts, such as the use of fishing nets, the breeding of silk worms, and the taming of wild animals. He also invented music, and most importantly, the eight tigrams (Pakua), said to be the basis of Chinese writing. Also attributed to him is the invetion of casting oracles by the use of yarrow stalks. ... [Sounds a lot like Thoth, doesn't he] "Fu Xi is represented as a human being with the body of a snake. His wife is Nu-gua. ..." Then I checked out Nu-gua. She is called the Chinese creator goddess who created the first humans from yellow earth, and the entry in the Encyclopedia Mythica describes how she did this; she is worshipped as the intermediary between men and women, and as the goddess who grants children. "She invented the whistle, instituted marriage and instructed mankind in the art of building dams and channels for irrigation. "A particular myth tells that at a certain time the cardinal points were no longer in the proper place, exposing the nine realms. Nu-gua melted colored stones to mend the azure skies, cut off the legs of a turtle to support the cardinal points, and slayed a black dragon to save the land of Qi. "... Like her brother [and alleged husband] the lower part of her body is protrayed as that of a dragon". Note the "land of Qi". In Chinese, a "qi" is a chess piece and is part of the name, Xiang 'qi. I believe
the article I read on ancient Chinese divination practices and their relationship
to chess was in materials Gerhard sent to me. I will find them somewhere
in this messy library! Mark Borcherding - 08:09am Apr 18, 1999 MST (#595 of 602) dare to dream upon your own star Jan ... the Chinese creator goddess Nu-gua sounds alot like the american indian's White Buffalo Calf woman. (She is one of my Spirit Guides) She taught them about the sweat lodge, marriage, and the peace pipe and other sacraments. Interesting about the lower part of her body being a Dragon (serpent). I recall snake/serpent has come up many time in this discussion. The mayans have glyphs for both the Dragon and Serpent. Dragon carries power of birth (memory) and Serpent carries the power of Life Force. Appears these two glyphs have alot to do with "Birth of Life" When I was in high school I designed a new Chess board that had 8 new pieces 4 pawns, 2 Moats, and 2 Dragons. ....hmmmm.... Dragonslayer. To slay one's own dragons and give birth to a new Self? "Nu-gua" = 64 in (26 numerology) "White Buffalo Calf Woman" = 90 (9 numerology) 64 + 26 = 90 The 64 chess squares and the 26 is two 13's representing two flows (male, female) gives us a 90. In the Mayan system when you sum the 13 tones 1+2+3+...+13 = 91 (90+1) February
1998, I added 4 tones to the Mayan harmonics for 17 tones 1+2+3+...+17
= 153 the 17th tone is called the "Tone of Never-ending Love" ... must
have alot of Goddess influence :) Jan Newton - 01:23pm Apr 18, 1999 MST (#596 of 602) Mark, it certainly seems to be a recurrent theme that has shown up in our various researches - the serpent and/or the dragon - it has appeared in your Mayan information, in the mythology of China, India, Sumeria and Egypt, and of course, in the Bible (the serpent being the bad guy there, and the Dragon being another guise of the serpent, Satan the Devil -- "slanderer" and "resister"). It does seem to express a very fundamental archetypical idea; perhaps Philip will have some comments on it too. I was also struck, like you, with Nu-Gua's resemblance to other goddesses we have often discussed here - Isis and Hathor. What I find particularly noteworthy is that in THEIR creation legends, it is the goddesses who created man, not the male counterpart gods; again, harking back to the older idea of the goddess as being the "sun" -- the creator (and nuturer) of mankind. This reoccurring theme emphasizes, to me at least, the important (if not prime) role that the goddess/queen must have played in The Game from its beginnings; to assume otherwise argues for total historical inconsistency. It was only later when the patriarchal stream took precedence that the goddess lost her role in the game, not to appear again until thousands of years later in the Middle Ages when the Vizier assumed the role of Queen. I have found a few intriguing possible links in the chain of circumstantial evidence of the origins of The Game. Hark back to my good friend Noah and his three sons: Japeth, Shem and Ham. It was Japeth and his descendants who settled in (or stayed behind in) the Transcaucausas area, and it is accepted historical fact that his descendants spread out in several waves to the west through Anatolia (Turkey), across the Bospherus (sp?) and into Greece and the Balkan peninsula. Javan, who was one of Japeth's sons, is listed in the book of nations (the listing of the 70 families of mankind in Genesis 10) as being the father of the "Dodanim", also referred to as the Rodanim in 1st Chronicles. These people became the Greeks and the people who settled the islands in the Agean Sea. The Egyptians later knew them as "Danoi". I believe it was under Ramesses I that a wave of invading Danoi was beaten back all the way across the sea. The Danoi were one of the Celtic peoples who were from the Balkan Peninsula. Now I jump too Graves' The White Goddess, where I found the following information link! We have previously discussed the Tuatha de Danaan and their story of how they came to England from over the sea. On page 50 of The White Goddess, Graves states: "According to an archaeologically plausible Irish tradition in the Book of Invasions, the Tuatha de Danaan had been driven northward from Greece as a result of an invasion from Syria and eventually reached Ireland by way of Denmark, to which they gave their own name ('The kingdom of the Danaans'), and North Britain. The date of their arrival in Britain is recorded as 1472 B.C. - for what that is worth." Then Graves goes on to briefly discuss the possible timing of this dispersion, and puts it somewhere between 1750 BC and 1400 BC, which would tie in historically with the period of unrest in the Middle East with the Hyksos invasion and conquest of Egypt, the eventual ousting of the Hyksos and the emergence of the New Kingdom in Egypt. Remember
the references in the Mabinogion to chess? And remember awhile back when
I reported on some of the myths of the Tuatha De Danaan, and reported
a story involving several games of Chess. So, we have the Celts that settled
in England, who were the Danoi, who were the Dodanim, who were direct
descendants of Japeth -- links all the way back to the Transcaucausas
area. The Greeks' own ancestral memory puts them as originating in the
Transcaucasus area -- remember Jason and the Argonauts and the search
of the Golden Fleece? They went to Colchis, in the area of the ancestral
homeland to find it. And Colchis is on the southwestern coast of the Black
Sea. Intriguing, isn't it! Jan Newton - 05:58pm Apr 18, 1999 MST (#597 of 602) At long last! (Trumpet fanfare, please, maestro)!! History Lessons II!!!! Aeons ago, to refresh your memories, darlings, I posted in 487, 495, 497, 508 and 509 (I AM verbose, n'est pas?) about my very good friends the Hyksos, and "ekhos" (another good friend, the trusty old horse), et al. There is a relatively large gap of time between the perhaps domestication of the horse in the 4th millennium BCE and the use of horses by the Hyksos drawing war chariots and sweeping across the middle east to conquer Egypt in the 17th century BCE. However, there was the intervening link of the Mitanni, that mysterious people who apparently came from the Indus Valley region and allied themselves somehow with the Hurrians to form the Mitanni empire, who had apparently also domesticated the horse. In the interim, we had mass migrations of the Hurrians into the area now known as northern Syria and ancient Mesopotamia. I have a hunch that the Hyksos that so mysteriously arose in the 17th century BCE were none other than the descendants of the Hurrian/Mitanni; that they always had the horse and knew of its domestic uses, and that it was the Hyksos (again, notice the similarity to the word for horse in the proto Indo-European language "ekhos") who made the leap from using horses for domestic agricultural purposes to pulling a war chariot. Enough intervening time would have passed for the "ties that bind" to have dimmed in historical memory so that they Hyksos would have forgotten their genetic ties to the Hurrians/Mitanni; however, I have not read of any wars of the Hyksos against the Mitanni empire, only against Egypt (that is not to say such wars/skirmishes didn't take place, only that I haven't come across them thus far in my researches). In any event, the Hyksos, seemingly arising out of "nowhere" (and as we well know, the Hyksos as well as modern day rock stars do not rise out of "nowhere" but leave a long trail of failed hits behind them) stormed the portals of Egypt and conquered enough of the territory so that for approximately 150 years it was a Pharaoh of Hyksos descent that sat on the mightiest throne then known! Where is
this all going? Only to this - that once again it was the horse -- and
the war chariot!!! -- that played a pivotal role in history. No coincidence
that the horse and the rook, venerable descendant of the war chariot,
play vital roles in The Game we know and love so well today. And the links
can be traced back to that same area of my (and Gerhard Josten's original)
fascination: the Transcaucausas -- with probable contributions from the
Indus Valley region (ancient Hind or Sind), long postulated as the area
of The Game's genesis. Alice Haney - 07:55pm Apr 18, 1999 MST (#598 of 602) Jan, I don't see the serpent as the 'bad guy' in the Bible. I believe the story of Adam and Eve is just that a story or metaphor. To my knowledge the the kundalini has always been represented as a serpent. I believe the Bible starts (Genesis)and ends (Revelations) with the secret of achieving enlightenment and escaping the circle of death and life, reincarnation. Some points about serpents are listed below. Key 6 in the Tarot, The Lovers: The two human figures represent opposing factors of the one Source, Adam and Eva (her name in the original manuscripts), male and female, positive and negative, and conscious and subconscious minds. These two specialized manifestations of the one life force must become equalized before attaining unity. The male, or conscious mind, looks to the female, or the subconscious mind, which in turn gazes up at the angel, or the super-conscious. Only through this step by step process can we reach our source and draw upon its power and inspiration. The tree behind Adam symbolizes the signs of the zodiac. The flames on the left of the tree trunk symbolize the five senses, and those on the right symbolize the body and the original planets. Behind Eva is the Tree of Knowledge. The serpent in the tree, the kundalini force, gives them the power to create. When the kundalini is trapped in the lower center of the body, at or near the base of the spine, only the senses are fulfilled. One must raise the kundalini, or life force, up the spine to the higher centers in the head so that the life force can be expressed on a loftier plane. Key 8 Strength: The keyword for this card is the fang of the serpent. The serpent represents the kundalini, or life force, which in undeveloped persons lies coiled three and half times at the base of the spine. This force must be elevated, to transform the individual into a more spiritually-oriented person. All transformations in nature are actually specialized manifestations of this kundalini force. Key 20 Judgement: The key symbols for this card are tooth, fang and serpent. An ancient adept was called a serpent, and when we want to invoke silence, we pronounce the sound of the letter for this key- Sh. This indicates the silence of the wise. "Be ye wise as serpents," (Matthew 10:16). Teeth break food and prepare it for digestion. Wisdom, which is kept silent, destroys the forms of the outer world and reveals the hidden nature of things so that you may absorb the spiritual essence. The cobra was the sacred symbol of Egypt and India. Its venom attacks every cell of the body instantly. The serpent's fang conveys the poison. The analogy is that wisdom can be like acid which instantly eats away everything false. Therefore, the keyword for this card is realization. Astrologically, it is ruled by Vulcan. When we have gained realization of spiritual things, our personal consciousness is ready to blend with the universal consciousness. We then realize our oneness with God and our unity with all humanity. This state of consciousness begins with a mental grasp of the real world, where our attitude is the reverse of most people's because we identify ourselves with the One Reality. Our subconscious minds are dominated by true will. Our judgement day is the day we have reached our ability to judge the true from the false. The card represents the call to judgement day. The angel Gabriel calls those who are ready to hear the truth which shall set them free and give them new life. Stone coffins, the human body, arise from the deep. They are black when closed, from lack of light, or truth. The three states of consciousness arise: man, consciousness; woman, subconsciousness; and child, super- consciousness. In older versions of the Tarot, their arms spell the word lux or light. They have come into illumination. I will e-mail
you a copy of my Tarot Symbolism File and also anyone else who would like
a copy. Love and Light to you, Alice Mark Borcherding - 06:02am Apr 19, 1999 MST (#599 of 602) dare to dream upon your own star Jan ref 596 & 597 interesting about the horse and the horse had a big effect when Spanish came to Mexico and wiped out what was left the Mayan civilization. Cortez still had some "Knight" armor on? Iwas reading that "Ahkenaten" was the first to have the title "Pharaoh". He was the one that turned Egypt on its head and said only "One" god putting the priests sort of out of business. He was the one who taught the mystery school "The Right Eye of Horus. Seems there are 12 major temples on the Nile which teach the female then the 13th "Great Pyramid" teachs the male. This is where the Right Eye of Horus was taught as the right eye is processed thru the left side of the brain. Interesting where the Great Pyramid was on the Chessboard layout the Rook & Knight positions if I remember correctly. Alice in the mayan cosmology the Serpent glyph called "Chiccan" was associated with the asteriod belt planet. The Serpent was the female energy glyph of Life Force and the male energy glyph was the Wizard called "Ix" which had energy of timelessness. When these two are combined Serpent & Wizard you have "timeless life" or "immortality". Looks to me like we need both the female and male within ourselves to balance for completeness and anytime we choose one over the other then we mess up. I am amazed at how many people when they see numbers see only "math" they do not see harmony, beauty, and nature ... why not? I beleive when I use number I am using both male & female. Most male scientific thinking would laugh at numerology or its intuitive communications. Why did planet Earth choose the 3rd orbit from the Sun? Why does it tilt at 23.5 degrees? Why does "Earth" + "Chess" = "Jesus Christ"? (25 + 18 = 43) Why does "Chess" = "Love" (18) CHildESS is a God and Goddess combined Jan Newton - 10:56am Apr 19, 1999 MST (#600 of 602) Alice, I must fundamentally disagree that "woman" is "subconsciousness". That is what we've been TAUGHT to believe, BUT that is not necessarily the truth. However, only time will tell what the ultimate truth is. You may be right and, as the Billy Joel song says, "I may be crazy! (but then, it just may be a lunatic you're looking for...")! LOL, in the end, it will all come out in the wash, whenever that may be! For myself, I'm still trying to figure out what a Queen's Gambit is! POSTS 601- 650 |
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