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Don McLean - 10:48am May 6, 1999 MST (#751 of 755)
"...we could "de-materialize" and "re-materialize" at will, anywhere we wanted to be, at any time we wanted to be."
Well, that's the plan...and its gotten beyond the dreamy stage. Recently, I.B.M. successfully teleported sub-atomic particles from A to B. This is what Bohm's "pilot wave" and Sarfatti's convolved physics are all about.
Mark - 13 really! Who-dunnit? This bodes well for piano/octave analogies. As for the child at the center of the chess universe - that would make perfect sense to any child. I propose that such a piece would move alternately one square left - one square right - zig zagging innocently about the board a single square at a time.
1234567 - all good children go to heaven. I propose also that the child be capable of attaining promotion - perhaps becoming a grail or a dragon! Assign the promoted tot a symmetrical combination of both left and right bishop's diagional pathways. Children are the hidden power behind any throne and may enact a vengence given the opportunity.
Such a thing might arouse Sir Percival's curiosity. Percival was the quintessential man-child and understood the importance of being Peter Pan.
Pi welcomes all pats and pampering, though resists classification by gender... While this slice of the Corpus Hermeticum attempts an egalitarian view, I offer it as a interpretive paradigm for "as above so below" and a clue to the Dragon's identity. Last of the long posts for today... I do obsess...
"Hermes, while wandering in a rocky and desolate place, gave himself over to meditation and prayer. Following the secret instructions of the Temple, he gradually freed his higher consciousness from the bondage of his bodily senses; and, thus released, his divine nature revealed to him the mysteries of the transcendental spheres. He beheld a figure, terrible and awe-inspiring. It was the Great Dragon, with wings stretching across the sky and light streaming in all directions from its body. (The Mysteries taught that the Universal Life was personified as a dragon.) The Great Dragon called Hermes by name, and asked him why he thus meditated upon the World Mystery. Terrified by the spectacle, Hermes prostrated himself before the Dragon, beseeching it to reveal its identity. The great creature answered that it was Poimandres, the Mind of the Universe, the Creative Intelligence, and the Absolute Emperor of all.
Poimondres: "Of the immortal man it should be said that He is hermaphrodite, or male and female, and eternally watchful. He neither slumbers nor sleeps, and is governed by a Father also both male and female, and ever watchful. Such is the mystery kept hidden to this day, for Nature, being mingled in marriage with the Sky Man, brought forth a wonder most wonderful - seven men, all bisexual, male and female, and upright of stature, each one exemplifying the natures of the Seven governors [spirits of the Planets]. These, O Hermes, are the seven races, species, and wheels."
"Then all living creatures, including man, which had been hermaphroditical, were separated, the males being set apart by themselves and the females likewise, according to the dictates of Reason.'
"Then God spoke to the Holy Word within the soul of all things, saying: 'Increase in increasing and multiply in multitudes, all you, my creatures and workmanships. Let him that is embued with Mind know himself to be immortal and that the cause of death is the love of the body; and let him learn all things that are, for he who has recognized himself enters into the state of Good.'" - - Poimandres (or The Vision of Hermes)
Mark Borcherding - 11:28am May 6, 1999 MST (#752 of 755)
dare to dream upon your own starRef 751 ... Don I am glad you liked the Child -piece and your movement for it seems appropriate ... dancing around like Peter Pan.
About the 13 dimensions there are many overtones between each of the 13 major dimensions as I have read. Each dimension is sort of seperated from the next by a "dark void" perhaps the "Dark Isle" that Jan has mentioned.
What is the 13th number in the Fibonacci (female) sequence?
0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 144 1+4+4 = 9What is the 13th number in the Binary (male) sequence?
1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 1+0+2+4 = 7Regarding the "Dragon" that is the Mayan solar glyph called "Imix" or "Red Dragon" and carries the "power of Birth". Its partner glyph is the White Mirror or "Etznab" which carries the "power of Endlessness" These two mayan solar glyphs are associated with the planet Neptune.
In the Mayan system 0 can be a 20 so look what happens to our 1024 from above:
1+0+2+4 = 1+(2+0)+2+4 = 9The 0 or 20th mayan glyph is "Ahau" or "Yellow Sun" and it carries the "power of Enlightenment".
Philip Mistlberger - 12:24pm May 6, 1999 MST (#753 of 755)Monsieur Di Lion's celestial configurations:
Sun in Aries
Moon in Gemini
Cancer Rising
His strongest planetary concentration is in the Earth element (4 planets, 3 in stubborn Taurus -- Mercury, Venus, Mars).
Thus, in the system I used 9,396 posts earlier to categorize the other chessnuts, M. Don is an Earth/Fire/Yin type.
There are 8 sextiles (30 degree angles with orbs under 2 degrees) in his chart, unusual number, suggesting good karma (meaning people should generally like him and want to support him, if he allows it), ability to be easy going, and possible tendencies toward laziness -- in betwixt fits of intense concentration and productivity.
There is some evidence of inner struggle here, in terms of coming to balance with disparate tendencies. Aries in Sun (initiating drive, need for spotlighted attention), Moon in Gemini (lunar, feeling nature with Gemini division -- a warm, smiling man in the moon, and a dark side seen by very few, brooding and passionate), and Mercury in Taurus (stubborn strength in communication and idealism). I mention Moon and Mercury because they are energies intimately connected to the Game.
Cancer rising -- sentiment, domesticity, and compassion must be exercised, else Arien grandiosity and Mercury sextile Uranus aspect will carry you off into lands where few can find you...
In short Don, you seem made for this room. As Isis said to me when I arrived, "What took you so long to get here?"
Okay, enough. For additional info, mail $89.95 to me immediately. (-:
The first annual Xena/Isis convention, huh? If I show up with a crown on my head will I be castled into a corner?
On second thought, never mind...
Jan Newton - 02:09pm May 6, 1999 MST (#754 of 755)Philip if you show up at the Isis and Xena Road Show I will undertake to find the one, the only, the true match made in Heaven for you. Behind your back, of course! What about a 25 year old flaming redhaired 6 foot tall with legs up to here showgirl! No, I've got it! A 4'10" platinum blonde with a Dolly Parton bustline and an 18 inch waist! With glasses! She must have glasses! Yes, that's just the ticket for you, darling. I'll get right on it. Oh I just love to be busy busy busy... Castling is strictly forbidden, unless it is entirely voluntary on the Rook's part. Thank you for doing deLion's chart!
deLion, I think I will wait until the technology has been just a wee bit more perfected before I decide to scatter my atoms in the void hoping they reassemble again on the "other side". A little Star Trek humor: Why did Janeway go into the transporter? To get to the "other side". Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Well, er, perhaps I'll switch to knock-knock jokes. I like your move for the "Child" chesspiece. As for Pi, we do not discriminate here on the basis of gender when doing belly rubs.
Mark, I like that "dark void" and "Dark Isle" analogy. I'm going to think about that one a little more. While reading The White Goddess on the way in this morning, I ran across an intriguing passage that described what appears to have been a spiral of oak trees on a sacred mountain in, I believe, Greece, before they were chopped down by the fanatics eons ago. My immediate thought was that it replicated a Fibonnaci spiral, and you will see why when I post about it later on.
'Sis! I've gotten tons of information on LV! I am going to visit every casino AND bar in town. And the Grand Canyon. And Hoover Dam. And Disneyland in Anaheim. I'll be with you about 37 weeks.
Mark Borcherding - 03:39pm May 6, 1999 MST (#755 of 755)
dare to dream upon your own starJan ref 754 ... yes most plants will have the fibonnaci sequence in them. The binary sequence is seen in action in cell division like when we are born and all thru life. Interesting how these two sequences work together to create beauty of life.
Its easy to see the binary sequence in the Chess board.
Everyone where is the fibonnaci sequence in Chess?
Philip Mistlberger - 04:05pm May 6, 1999 MST (#756 of 811)Hmmm, Xena. A six-foot tall flaming redhead with legs up to here, and a 4'10" platinum blonde with Dolly Parton bustline....
That sounds suspiciously like Isis and you (with hair colours switched just to confuse things).
Concerning Puer and Puella Aeternus, the Eternal Child, number 7 in the Enneagram Personality System -- The Idealist, The Epicurean, The Dreamer. Hates pain and boredom, always searching for a fix or distraction, when not sunny and life of the party, can be obsessive-compulsive at the drop of a hat. A terrible sucker for chess, that most powerfully addictive of all games. (But heck, some addictions are fun).
Jan Newton - 04:52pm May 6, 1999 MST (#757 of 766)LOL, Philip, you are too smart for moi! That's us to the life, the Mutt and Jeff (or I should say Jeff and Mutt) of the Las Vegas Here I Come Road Show. You should see our Bob Hope/Bing Crosby routine - it's a real scream!
That Number 7 Enneagram personality is you! I have never heard of this system. What on earth is it?
Mark, I was not clear in my post before, sorry. What I meant to say was the the oak trees themselves were planted in the pattern of a spiral, and certain rituals took place among the trees.
As for the Fibonnaci spiral in Chess, just for an experiment I plotted it out starting from a1. Got a very cool figure. Now if I could only figure out how to get it here. However, someone at the office today told me to try to use my "Paint" under "Accessories" and save the scanned in image as a "bitmap", and then I'll be able to dump it in here. So, I will try another experiment. That is, if I can figure out what the heck "Paint" and "Accessories" are, LOL! Sounds like a hardware store. I tried e-mailing an image to myself, which worked great, but I still couldn't take it from the e-mail and dump in in a post. That was failed experiment number 2.
I am nothing if not persistent.
Vickie Ramirez - 05:29pm May 6, 1999 MST (#758 of 766)
O Music! In your depths we deposit our hearts and souls. Thou hast taught us to see with our ears, and hear with our hearts.OK Xena, August 16th is my wedding anniversary and my significant other is intrigued by your posts. That might just be enough to get him interested in the LV trip. That is just after my 30 year class reunion to which he really does not want me to go home for. Hummmmmm. Wouldn't that be cool. Might even be able to be Ron and his friend to join us.
Might have seminar on sex magic too while we are all together. LOL
Mark Borcherding - 07:23pm May 6, 1999 MST (#759 of 766)
dare to dream upon your own starHere is a clue on the Fibonnaci in the Chess board but only let this add to your imagination. As the sequence expands the current term divided by the previous term get closer and closer to 1.618 PHI the Golden Mean for example 144 / 89 = 1.6179775280898876404494382 Recall Philip mentioned this when he overlaid the Chessboard on three main Giza pyramids As the sequence expands from 0 to 144 and beyond we can plot a 90 degree turn between each number. Recall this 90 degrees from our Knight(ess)
A little note about the Binary sequence it takes exactly 46 mitotic cell divisions to create all the cells in the human body. This happens to be the exact number of chromosomes 46 and of course 46 mirrored is 64 (chess squares).
Jan Newton - 07:53pm May 6, 1999 MST (#760 of 766)Greetings, Vickie! By all means you must use a little goddess magik to lure your husband to LV for a nice visit with your cohorts in crime! If we do have a tantric seminar, must I limit myself to one....oops, never mind, forget I said that, LOL! Sassy, sassy Jan!
Mark, when I plotted out my Fibonacci sequence, I couldn't fit beyond the 55 on the squares. I rotated the Chessboard around three more times after I did the initial plot (using very unsophisticated plotting methods - straight line and dot, LOL) and treated each subsequent corner as a new a1 square. If you suddenly see a bizarre image show up in a post with no accompanying text, that will be the "map" of the Fibonnaci spiral I did on the Chessboard.
Georgia Albert - 08:31pm May 6, 1999 MST (#761 of 766)Come One! Come All!
I will have a firm date for The Meeting by tomarrow.
Enie beanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak. All of you will be able to attend The Meeting. Well, it works for Rocky and Bullwinkle:-)
LOVE
Isis
Jan Newton - 04:51am May 7, 1999 MST (#762 of 766)Arrrggghhhh! I am all over frustrated. I scanned in my map of the Fibonnaci spiral on the Chessboard and saved it and then couldn't find it anywhere in "Paint". LOL! Back to the drawing board. There has got to be a way to do this!
I'm not familiar with the underlying myth behind what I now relate, but here goes. This is the info from The White Goddess on the spiral of oak trees:
"According to Apollonius Rhodius, the wild oak trees which Orpheus had led down from the Pierian mountain were still standing in ordered ranks in his day at Zone (the "e" in Zone should have one of those little squiggly things above it) in Thrace. If they were arranged as if for dancing [this alludes to an earlier reference to one of the bardic poems about a battle of trees which could also be interpreted as a dance among the trees] that would mean not in a stiff geometrical pattern, such as a square, triangle or avenue, but in a curved one. Zone ('a woman's girdle') suggests a round dance in honor of the Goddess. Yet a circle of oaks, like a fastened girdle, would not seem to be dancing; the oaks would seem to be standing as sentinels around a dancing floor. The dance at Zone was probably an orgiastic one of the 'loosened girdle': for zone in Greek also means marriage, or the sexual act, the disrobing of a woman. It is likely therefore that a broad girdle of oaks planted in a double rank was coiled in on itself so that they seemed to be dancing spirally to the center and then out again."
The Fibonnaci spiral as aphrodisiac. I like it!
By the way, I could not find a thing yesterday on any of the items mentioned by Neville in her description of "The Long March". Admittedly, I am not going to spend hours reading tourist information about Venice to see if anything pops up. Quick searches turned up nothing.
Mark Borcherding - 05:47am May 7, 1999 MST (#763 of 766)
dare to dream upon your own starJan the spiral of Oak trees was very interesting and the Oak itself has wonderous "curves" .... no wonder I like trees it's all those hypnotic curves ... remind me of ...
There are two spirals of light one dark (female) and one white (male) that will come out around the center of the Chess board that we have talked about. So the begining of the fibonnaci sequence starts in the center and there are two spirals moving in opposite directions. You can envision female energy moving from a square's lower left/right corners moving diagonally upward and the male energy moving from the square's upper left/right corners diagonally downward. Of couse they meet in the center of the square where the diagonals "Cross". This pattern repeats at all levels of the Chess board.
Notice how the four center squares B.C. Yellow(sun,male), A.D. Green(earth, female) cross each other and meet where B.C. & A.D. meet in the very heart center of the chess board in both time & space.
F E G A B L H C D K I J
Jan Newton - 09:48am May 7, 1999 MST (#764 of 766)Mark, I think you should most definintely bring Mer to Vegas and join that Tantric seminar, LOL! Yes, I can envision the spirals, like strands of DNA flowing upward from the center of the Board. One archetype meets another in the dance of creative energies we call the universe.
This morning coming down to the office I started thinking about the "Dark Void" and the "Dark Isle", and started crying. MOST embarrassing. That Dark place in us is extremely powerful, potent and , at times, alluring. It is that place we tend to skitter away from nervously, for "there be monsters there". It is that place "behind" the normal heart where we tuck away all of the hurt and pain caused by life and by others. It is the hollow feeling that is there, sometimes, centered below the navel. It is the need side of the unfulfilled "I want".
Yes, I can see why the Muslim Arabs would have been terrified of the Dark Isle.
Mark Borcherding - 09:52am May 7, 1999 MST (#765 of 766)
dare to dream upon your own starthe Chess game has an interesting simple oddity in this:
8 Pawns 1 type in 4 identical pairs 2 Rook, Bishop, Knight 3 types in 3 identical pairs 1 King, Queen 2 type in 1 mixed pair Or you could present it this way:
King Queen Rook Rookess Knight Knightess Bishop Bishopess 4 Pawns 4 Pawns How about some color:
King Queen H e a r t Rook Rookess A i r Knight Knightess W a t e r Bishop Bishopess E a r t h 4 Pawns 4 Pawns F i r e
Jan Newton - 02:57pm May 7, 1999 MST (#766 of 766)I like the way you put that together, Holmes. It adds multi-dimensions to the King-Queen chase and mate between the sexes drama! I do believe we are all suffering from an acute case of SPRING FEVER! AAAAAAHHHHH (loud horrified screams coming from the Peanut Gallery)! Yes, it's true, it's true. Aspirin will most definitely NOT work on this illness.
EEK! What would happen if water and earth should happen to get together? What would you have? (MUD). And, horror or horrors, what if air and fire got together? (HOT AIR!) OH NOOOOOOOO!
Sorry, the only cure, the absolutely, positively one and only cure, is to
LISTEN TO ROBERT PALMER TONIGHT AND DRINK LOTS OF WINE!
Okay, sounds like a plan to moi! Doctor, doctor, give me the news, I got a bad case of loving you. No pill's gonna cure my ills, I got a bad case of loving youuuuuu..... (hot mad guitar riffs here.....).....
Every one must promise Dr. Xena to do this now.
Philip Mistlberger - 07:17pm May 7, 1999 MST (#767 of 773)I fear I have met my equal.
Monsieur Di Lion has outwitted me.
In response to my demand for $89.95 payment for an expansion on the astrological mini-reading, he emailed me his calculation of the payment as follows:
89.95 = 8+9+9+5 = 31 = 3+1 = 4.
Four. Four lousy dollars. Then, to add insult to injury, he emailed me a "mickbuckjpg", an electronic image of a US $100 dollar bill with Mick Jagger's face in the center.
I tried to rip the moola from the screen in a peevish fit, but failed.
Mark, this is all your doing. It's that friggin numerology. Find some way to recalculate the numbers (heh heh, I'll slip you 20% = 2+0 = 2%, if you do....)
Just saw the movie "The Mummy" today, haven't laughed that hard in a long time. What with all our work re Egypt in this room (over the centuries), many of you might find it great fun.
Couldn't see any chessboard over Giza though...
Jan Newton - 11:57pm May 7, 1999 MST (#768 of 773)LOL, Philip, darling! Four lousy dollars? Oh mon dieu! Outwitted by what we would call here a "greenhorn easterner"! The end of the world as we know it! Yes, it is all Holmes' fault! He of the numerology lessons!
Behold, darlings, I am inspired this early morning (or perhaps, it is still evening where you are; no matter!) I have met my "Muse". Just to be sure, I, tricky sneaky lawyer type that I was trained to be, checked in my trusty old Webster's Collegiate Dictionary circa 1977! Aha! I was write! (pun fully intended!) It is the Muse! Behold!
muse (n) [ME, fr. MF, fr. L. Musa, fr. Gk, Mousa] 1: any of the nine sister goddesses in Greek mythology presiding over song and poetry and The arts and sciences 2: a source of inspiration: esp: a guiding genius 3: POET.
Not, of course, to be confused (oh no no no) with Moose: [of Algonquian origin; akin to Natick moos moose] 1: a large ruminant mammal (oh yeah, that really tells me alot!) {Alces americana} of the deer family (deer family my foot! Have you ever SEEN one of these suckers up close?) inhabiting parts of Canada and the northern U.S. [and eating wad-tons of cud--editorial note]
Oh, sweet mystery of life at last I found thee.... the call of the moose, er, Muse, awaits...
Think: theme song to "Northern Exposure" and you'll catch JUST the right mood, darlings! Bon soir!
Mark Borcherding - 07:40am May 8, 1999 MST (#769 of 773)
dare to dream upon your own starJ a n ref 768 ... regarding a "muse" very interesting that 9 sisters preside over song/poetry. Here is my poetry website that has some of my poetry for all of you to enjoy click on the link or go to
"http://www.go-symmetry.com/rainbow.htm"
"Poetry" = 36------ = 3+6 = 9 = 1+8 = 18 = "Love"
Remember these words from a song "Two hearts beat as One"?
I have a fun drawing exercise that will relate this to Chess. Will
post instructions in another post.
Don McLean - 08:04am May 8, 1999 MST (#770 of 773)"down and down I go round and round I go"
Hey Phil! That MickMoney works just fine in Bequia - or wherever it is the Mickster parks his yacht.:-) Checking around to see if I don't have some Franks on hand. Might work real good in Vegas. I'll be back in a moment or two. Have to feed the dragon.
Don McLean - 08:29am May 8, 1999 MST (#771 of 773)In a mad rush this morning. Post may be a bit disjointed but I think the picture will be clear. This comes to us through
http://www.labs.net/dmccormick/jeanne.htm
I have edited extensively but the rest of the essay is well worth the read.
Jeanne La pucelle and The Dying God by James L. Matterer
The Cult of the Dying God
"The origin of this cult appears in Neolithic times, where evidence shows that people of old Europe worshipped a "sorrowful god," who must die in order to be born again in the spring. Statues of the sorrowful god from around 5000 - 6000 B.C.E. were made as masterpieces and show great care and reverence for the image. The figures are almost always the same: that of an old man, sad and in contemplation.
If the god-king so desired a substitute could die in his place. The mock king would temporarily be given the power of the true king and would briefly rule in his place, until the time of the sacrifice. Those sacrificed had no qualms about what they were doing: they gave their lives to ensure a successful and continual seasonal cycle and to benefit the well-being of the people.
NOW ABOUT THE BISHOP! A foggy night in London town
As for Thomas a Becket, the details of his death suggest the theory that he was a substitute for a royal victim, in this case Henry II of England. The position between king and archbishop ever since Saxon times had been a curious arrangement, and Dr. Murray believes that there was a closer relationship between the two powers than is normally believed. In pre-Christian days the high priests, or "arch-flamens" of the Pagan populace were one of the few acceptable substitutes for the sacrifice of the divine king or leader. With the on-set of Christianity in England, it appears that wherever there was a "flamen", or priest, a bishopric was founded and an archbishop replaced the arch-flamen. The traditional duties and responsibilities of the arch-flamen in many cases were transferred to the archbishop. One of the duties of the arch-flamen of the Canterbury region may have been to serve as a royal substitute.
AND THE BISHOPESS!! "Stranger beware there is love in the air under Paris skies..."
Joan of Arc, whose life and death have been the subject of controversy and debate ever since they occurred, is another historical personage who fits the pattern of a divine human who must ultimately die. Joan was actually called by her people "Jeanne La pucelle"- Joan the virgin, the maiden of God (the "La" was usually capitalized to emphasis her prestige). The common usage of "Joan of Arc" appeared after her death, about 1576."
AH HA! Mais certainement!
Jan Newton - 12:02pm May 8, 1999 MST (#772 of 773)Holmes, are you playing with my Magic Compass? Well, all right, this time, but you must get your own! I visited your poetry site! Loved "Words", "It Only Takes One", and "The Direction of Desire"!
deLion, I will read the essay before commenting further. It is interesting, n'est ce pas, that also in The White Goddess Graves hinted that perhaps the "substitute" sacrifices were taking place even in that day (1948 when the book was originally copyrighted); one can easily see where some of the conspiracy theories arise ala Princess Grace and Princess Diana!
More later, darlings, I am going to take a nap now! Holmes, be sure you return my Magic Compass when you've finished with it, and sharpen the pencil!
Georgia Albert - 12:28pm May 8, 1999 MST (#773 of 773)Very interesting Don, I remember reading somewhere in one of my many volumes of book,(now which pile is that book in?) the title Virgin did not mean, a women who had not know a men in the biblical sence, it meant, an unattached woman. That would make Xena and I Virgins:-0
Correction: Post. Somewhere in the middle, I can't remember the number. It had mentioned that Ravens of Crows were kept at White Castle, in England(sounds like a hamburger joint),this was incorrect, it is White Chapel. We know that the Raven is associated with the Rook. We also know they keep Ravens at the Tower of London and White Chapel, a Chess board? Caw Caw, or is it, Ka Ka. The Egyptian name for the soul is Ka. Hmmmmm Remember the Wall of the Crow on the Giza plateaue. Hmmmmmm
Guys if someone asks you to be "King for a Day", Don't do it! Please! Xena and I and the other Goddesses would be very sad and lonely.
LOVE
G
May Laughter Always be with You.
Vickie Ramirez - 06:16pm May 8, 1999 MST (#774 of 783)
O Music! In your depths we deposit our hearts and souls. Thou hast taught us to see with our ears, and hear with our hearts.You called Xena? You were discussing the Muses... I adopted a new handled several weeks ago - the 4th Muse, Terpsichore, the Muse of Choral Songs and Dance. It is interesting that this came up. Muse sounds a lot like MUSic to me.
Regarding the references to the deaths of Princess Grace and Diana. What were the dates of their deaths. Was there anything significant about those particular dates?
Alice Haney - 06:42pm May 8, 1999 MST (#775 of 783)Hi everyone, wow you have all been busy while I was gone. But as usual to add my two cents, I must back everyone up.
Holmes and Xena (posts 744 and 742) The Hermes' staff, I believe is the Cadeusus, which is now known as the medical symbol, the winged T staff with intertwining snakes. I have read that in the original symbol, one snake was white and the other black to symbolize the positive and negative. This was a symbol of the kundalini, with the loops symbolizing the chakras.
Philip, you choose his Life Lesson Number, (April 11, 1951) 31/4. (8+9+9+5 = 31/4) I figured it but haven't yet sent it to him. Was this a coincidence or did you figure it up yourself?
Welcome De Lion..hey he is a 1951, too. Remember our years?
Don McLean - 07:32pm May 8, 1999 MST (#776 of 783)Hello Alice You have quite an eye for numbers! MUST be a coincidence - right? ;-)
Pi has been doing a little self examination lately and says that when he looks most closely into himself - say the first few hundred thousand integers or so - he finds that sooner or later all the prime numbers align in all their possible patterns. He does not understand "coincidence" and says it is probably some surmountable human foible that causes us to think in those terms. He finds this all very aMUSing and says that someday we'll get over it.
Don McLean - 07:35pm May 8, 1999 MST (#777 of 783)Vickie - Pi says he once knew a piano tuna, but the poor sole never got used to his scales. (badaboom!)
Alice Haney - 08:40pm May 8, 1999 MST (#778 of 783)Hi De Lion, I believe you are correct about the coincidences. Philip has shown himself to be quite psychic, in any case.
I see by your numbers you have this gift as well. I have some use of the 6th (intuition) but not as much as I would like, perhaps practice is the answer there. The 7th (ability to leave the body at will), I have no control whatsoever as yet.
Jan Newton - 10:15pm May 8, 1999 MST (#779 of 783)Greetings, Alice! Welcome home! Hope you will be with us for the full weekend! Yes, we have been humming along here, as you see! If you haven't already done so, by all means you should send deLion his numbers. He will find them most informative, as I, and I'm sure all of us did with the respective number readings you did for us!
Terpsichore, that is a very interesting point about the dates of death! I never before thought about it! Princess Di, I recall, died over the Labor Day weekend in '97. I will check out the exact dates and get back to everyone.
deLion, I have printed off the info from the website you posted about earlier and will read it! It occurred to me earlier tonight while I was printing off the info that perhaps The Game was created to divert the very horrible practice of king and/or substitute king sacrifice. If The Game had been played as originally intended, there would have been no need whatsoever to actually sacrifice a "king"! The energy flowing out of the play of The Game would have been sufficient to renew the seasonal flows! However, some people didn't get the "message" and most obviously still have not "gotten it" down 'til today!
Don McLean - 10:47pm May 8, 1999 MST (#780 of 783)Hello Alice!
While punning along on #777 (I just had to capture that number) your e-mail was probably processing through my modem. I thought someone had forwarded me the Bible! (LOL) Well, close enough! :-)
As with Phil, I do very much appreciate the effort and obvious care that went into these wonderful gifts. A thousand thanks! I have read a good portion of it already but will save the best part for the last! Quite a plot in there already.
As for my psychic abilities ...well they are uncontrolled at best. I am a little like Percival. I don't know what is happening until it has happened - and even then I've noticed that it can take a day, a month or a year to sort some things out. Some things seem to take much longer to push themselves up into the realm of conscious awaremess. Up until most recently, my record for lag time involved a span of 27 years. Now I consider that it may be more like several lifetimes. Given what I have come to appreciate in recent days, I think the Goddess motto should be:
"NO WISDOM BEFORE ITS TIME!"
Georgia - Pi says hi and will play Bucky Ball! We are looking around for the rules.
Jan - that (#779) could be IT! By George and William and Mary! What a neat analogy. Elegant! Befitting even!
Jan Newton - 05:53am May 9, 1999 MST (#781 of 783)Good morning, all! deLion, I like that motto! Has a similar ring to "we will sell no wine before its time", LOL! Twenty-seven years! Mon Dieu! There must be QUITE a story there! Do tell all, darling! And thank you for the compliment, puuuurrrrrr.....
Mark Borcherding - 07:49am May 9, 1999 MST (#782 of 783)
dare to dream upon your own starJan ref 779 I think you really hit on something about their limited thinking about the king and the energy of the seasons. If the Queen is "mother nature" then another way of saying it would be for the King to trust mother nature to protect him. After all mother nature "Queen" has the moves. Perhaps that is something that Chess teaches us that we may percieve ourselves to be "weak" as the King who seeminly has less power, but when we learn as King to empower ourself by trusting all pieces that we can then enjoy the dance of life upon the entire board (universe). Then perhaps it is less a game of conquest but more a game of how you and Georgia are playing it.
Jan Newton - 10:31am May 9, 1999 MST (#783 of 783)Yes, Mark, precisely! The Game was never one of conquest. One of the most important aspects of the "sacrificial king" rituals in the various cultures was the marriage of the king to the representative of the goddess! Their connection resulted in a consummation that would ensure the season's crops and fertility among the domestic animals and the tribe itself! The sacrificial death represented the waning of the season, and the "birth" of the new king represented the renewal of the season. It was, is, a never-ending cycle. The actual physical sacrifice of the king or a substitute should have been eliminated with the introduction of The Game; Gerhard Josten has hypothesized that it represents a marriage between "heaven" and "earth" - the very same ritual marriage between the representative of the goddess and the "king" - the earthly representative! Gerhard's surmise is based on evidence we have talked about here relating to Ishtar being a fertility goddess - and we have this new connection involving king sacrifice to support his hypothesis. Sadly, the entire point of The Game was missed. Because of the human sacrifice, over time the goddess fell into disrepute (although the goddess never demanded sacrifice, it was human interpretation and misunderstanding the cycles of nature that created such acts) and was eventually discarded in favor of the masculine god image who ruled through a king who NEVER died! Ha! Fat lot of good THAT did! Look what shape we're in today under the influence of the masculine god principle! A fine kettle of fish, Ollie!
Georgia Albert - 08:29am May 10, 1999 MST (#784 of 798)Sorry I missed the Chat, this antique computer I have (It's only 5 years old, Arrg!) would not allow me to visit. I was with you in spirit.
I have a correction: Many posts ago, I posted that Ravens were kept at White Castle(sounds like a hamburger joint), wrong, it is White Chapel. So, we have Ravens at the Tower of London and Ravens at White Chapel.Hmmmm
We, Xena and I, have choosen Friday 8-13-99 for our meeting in Las Vegas.
Friday got its name from the Tuetonic Goddess Frigdeag, and we also know that 13 is the number of the Goddess, I feel this is a fitting date for our Meeting. You can E-Mail me for details.
Philip, will you please do the stars for this date, if it is possible?
Mark, will you do the numbers for this date, please? The numbers for this date are really Cool.
Vickie, The Chess Herstory site is wonderful! The design you chose, truly shows one of your many talents off really well. I will be spending lots of time there. Thank You.
LOVE
G
May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.
Mark Borcherding - 09:14am May 10, 1999 MST (#785 of 798)
dare to dream upon your own starGeorgia,
Regarding 8-13-1999 the current mayan calendar cycle started on August 11,12, or 13th in 3113BC.
So this meeting will take place on the 5112 aniversary of this cycle. 5+1+1+2 = 9."Las Vegas" = 23 which of course mirrors the 32 or one half of the chess board.
8 + 1+3 + 1+9+9+9 = 40
8+8+8+8+8 = 40
So we have an 8 for each direction and the center. Notice the 40 has 4 directions and the 0 center point. The 4 also symbolizes fire,air,earth, and water. The 0 also in several posts here pertains to the Goddess. So with the 4 0 we have the Goddess energy in all 4 directions nad the Heart "center".
8 8 8 8 8 In the Mayan sacred tzolkin calendar kin 40 is called "1 Ahau" or "Yellow Magnetic Sun"
This "1 Ahau" appears on mayan Pacal Votan's tomb at Palenque as one of his 13 Clear Signs. This "1 Ahau" means "Purpose of Enlightenment".Now if we add our numbers for (date and location) 40 + 23 we get 63
Of course 63 = 6+3 = 9 the number of completion and perfection. Note
if you start at 0 zero then the last square on the Chess board would be 63.
6x3 = 18 = "Love" or also "Chess".
Jan Newton - 09:18am May 10, 1999 MST (#786 of 798)Good morning, all! If you can't make it on the 13th because of junket flights, etc., etc., I will be there most likely through the following Friday, 8/20, and, of course, Goddess Isis will be there, so we can hook up with one and all at a mutually convenient date, as we say in the trade! We hope you can all make it - L. V. will never be the same!
Georgia Albert - 10:53am May 10, 1999 MST (#787 of 798)A date has been choosen for our Meeting (With a little help from my friends, I like this Joe Cocker song).
Friday the 13th, 1999. At the Sahara Hotel and Casino at 8PM, in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Friday gets it's name from the Tuetonic Goddess Frigdeag, wife of Woden. Friday is also the day of Venus, fitting. 13 is the number of the Great Mother Goddess.
Mark, will you do the numbers for this date, please?
Philip, will you do the stars for this date, please?
I am interested to see what will happen.
LOVE
G
May Manna Always be with You.
Mark Borcherding - 11:25am May 10, 1999 MST (#788 of 798)
dare to dream upon your own starRef 787 Georgia and everyone see my post 785 for the numbers
that Georgia asked for concerning the 8-13-1999.In the Mayan calendar
Quiche maya daycount look what we have:
13 Imix -or- Red Cosmic DragonLongcount 12.19.6.8.1
8/13/1999"I endure in order to nuture
transcending being
I seal the input of birth
with the cosmic tone of presence
I am guided by the power of life force"
Jan Newton - 03:32pm May 10, 1999 MST (#789 of 798)Grin! Grin grin grin grin grin! Grin! I do believe Isis is somewhat discombobulated. That's all right! So am I!
LOL!
Mark, darling, thank you for running the numbers for us. By all measures it appears that August 13, 1999 at 8:00 p.m. at the Sahara in L.V. will be a momentous, stupendous, epic-making, myth-forming, earth shattering cataclysmic date that will go down in the all time greatest dates of goddess and male herstory! Be there and be "square"!
Georgia Albert - 07:24pm May 10, 1999 MST (#790 of 798)Now the post I wrote a couple of days ago pops up!
Thank you Mark for the numbers, they look real Nice.
Don, tell Pi I am digging through the soot to find the right Bucky Ball:-) I might be able to customize one for him. Then we will play.
LOVE
G
May Manna Always be with You.
Jan Newton - 07:46pm May 10, 1999 MST (#791 of 798)Mark, here are the dates of birth and death for the two princesses:
Princess Grace: 11/12/1929 - 9/14/1982
Princess Diana: 7/1/1961 - 8/31/1997
I confess that nothing of numerical significance is jumping out at me at the moment. Perhaps Holmes will have more luck.
Georgia Albert - 09:21pm May 10, 1999 MST (#792 of 798)Ref. 791
Diana and Grace may have been just 2 of many. Henry the VIII?....and the Silver screen Goddesses?...Hmmmmmmm
LOVE
G
May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.
Jan Newton - 04:48am May 11, 1999 MST (#793 of 798)Isis, interesting point about the silverscreen goddesses. Marilyn? Jeanne Harlow? Possibly substituted for the sacrificial "royalty" elsewhere?
Here's one - Mountbatten - he who got blown up by terrorists - one of Prince Charles' favorite relatives.
I think that Henry VIII croaked from old age and gout - he probably weighed about 400 pounds when he finally kicked the bucket, the old fart! He went in for sacrificial royalty in a big way - how many wives' heads did he chop off?
Mark Borcherding - 08:03am May 11, 1999 MST (#794 of 798)
dare to dream upon your own starBack in post 769 I promised a fun drawing exercise:
1. Using the 4 center squares of the Chessboard draw a circle in each of the 4 squares
where the center of the circle is the center of the square and the circles outside edge
just touches the square. You should have 4 points where they touch looking like this:
o a
o bo c
o d
2. Now connect the 2 top circles with point d to form a heart and the 2 bottom
circles with point a to form another upside-down heart. Notice how this looks
like a 4 Leaf Clover?3. Now do some exploring ... How does this relate to a pyramid?
One Heart = Above , One Heart = Below -or- "As Above ... So Below"
"Two hearts beat as one ..." Notice how the colors of the chess squares relate to these hearts.Note: I have heard that in solar systems with 2 or more Suns "stars"
that the lifeforms in those systems have 2 hearts.
Jan Newton - 11:01am May 11, 1999 MST (#795 of 798)Interesting, Holmes. I don't see a four-leaf clover, but I do see the two hearts; where they intersect they share a diamond. The bisected diamond would create two equilateral triangles. The entire Chessboard could be covered with a pattern of such hearts and diamonds. Cool! I wonder if that is where the suits for playing cards came from?
Mark Borcherding - 11:43am May 11, 1999 MST (#796 of 798)
dare to dream upon your own starJ a n ... yes you got it the whole chess board is covered with this pattern.
What does this pattern of "two hearts" look like if you make it more 3 dimensional?
Tube Torus ... This torus this is the shape of the energy fields around the Earth and probably everything.The two hearts also contains the following mayan symbol note the 4 O's are the center
points of our 4 circles or squares.
O * O
* * * ( mayan glyph L a m a t which relates to the planet V e n u s )
O * O
If we take the word Venus and mirror it we get "Sun Ev" -or- "Sun Eve" ... the Sun Goddess Venus is called the Morning Star ... how about the Eve-ning Sun?
Don McLean - 02:45pm May 11, 1999 MST (#797 of 798)"I've been everywhere - I've been everywhere
Crossed the deserts bare - I've breathed the mountain air
Travel - I've done my share - I've been everywhere!!!"
(...which could explain why I have SUCH a headache today. I'm sure its that cheap champagne they give out on Delta flights...)
Georgia - Pi thinks everyone is already playing Bucky Ball!!...lookit 'em go!
PI: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickjh/Pi.htm
BUCKY: http://www.bfi.org/index.html
Georgia - Your #792 totally anticipated my next move. Have a couple of interesting urls though.
SOME INFLUENTIAL WOMEN:
http://www.netsrq.com/~dbois/alphabet.html
HENRY VIII's OBSESSION:
http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=q&kl=XX&q=Anne+Boleyn
TOWER OF LONDON:
http://www.iion.com/cineworld/London/Custom/sightseeing/tower.html
EGYPTIAN ARCHITECTURE - White Chapel - one of the two I found on the net. Can't post the other - it is just too scary!!!
http://www.thais.it/architettura/egizia/schede/scm_00034_uk.htm
Somebody hand me an ice-pack!!! Tonight I will relax, watch the hockey game and maybe try a little "paint by numbers".
Mark Borcherding - 03:56pm May 11, 1999 MST (#798 of 798)
dare to dream upon your own starRef 797
From: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickjh/Pi.htm
Most people would say that a circle has no corners - but it is more accurate to say that it has an infinite number of corners
What would happen if you set a cube in motion spinning would that not
be the infinite corners? This accounts for our number 9 in the cube 8 corners
plus the 1 center. We see the 8 corners of the cube in the chessboard 8x8 = 64
Chess board squares come in pairs black/white each square has 4 corners and
thus 4+4 = 8 corners of a cube. But remember our center 1 + 4+4 = 144 recall
this number from the Bible 144,000 1+4+4+0+0+0 = 9.
Georgia Albert - 08:31pm May 11, 1999 MST (#799 of 809)DeLion, these are wonderful sites you posted, I added them to my bookmark, so I can easily reference them when ever I want. There is enough information on those sites to keep me busy for the next few months. Is this for grade? :-)
Wouldn't it be nice, if schools were as much fun as this.
LOVE
G
May Manna Always be with You.
Jan Newton - 09:27pm May 11, 1999 MST (#800 of 809)
Well, looks like the honors of being post #800 falls on moi, darlings! Holmes, "tube torus"! Shades of the pattern on the t.v. screen when that old chestnut "The Outer Limits" was on back in the '60's! I know exactly what you're talking about, LOL, simply visualized in 3-D!
On a somewhat wierder note, thought I'd pop in the name "Mountbatten" on the Yahoo search engine this evening just before beddy-bye time, and to my amazed and shocked eyes, came up - not with a webpage or info on the Earl of Mountbatten as I'd expected (looking for dates of birth and death), but with a page on the current Bonnie Prince William! Eek, and EEK again!
Try it yourselves! I typed in "Mountbatten" on the yahoo search engine, and up popped two pages, one of which was www.gilmer.net/royalty/william/. Sent shivers up and down my spine, especially after reading deLion's material referenced earlier on "Jeanne La pucelle and the Dying God".
One can't help but ask whether Mountbatten was the "sacrificial king" for the then as yet unborn future king, the current Prince William. But then, who was Diana sacrifice for? Prince Charles? Egad!
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