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Mark Borcherding - 11:08am May 27, 1999 MST (#901 of 909)
dare to dream upon your own starGeorgia ref 899 Yes I have read about mayan "Tlaloc" and this literally means "path under the Earth" or "long cave". Tlaloc relates to the glyph "Cauac" which looks sort of like a cave with water dripping from above. Cauac resides in the constellation of Aquarius. The Cauac glyph is the19th glyph and last of the 20 mayan solar glyphs if you count from 0-19 rather than 1-20. In the City of the Gods Tlaloc reigned supreme being associated with rain in an agricultural society. The Frog is an ally of the Rain God(dess) thus relating to Tlaloc. The Maya word for Frog is "uo" and is the specific name of a Black Frog with a brite orange stripe down its back.The u in "uo" refers to the moon and thus the Frog is related to the Moon Goddess. Of course the Moon (feminine) relates to water (rain) and thus relates to Tlaloc. The Moon Goddess was in the
West which color is Blue (water)."Tlaloc" = 18
Well ... well ... theres our 18 again recall the other words that sum to 18
"Chess" , "Venus" , "Love"
Jan Newton - 10:57am May 28, 1999 MST (#902 of 909)Mark, does Tlaloc represent aspects of both the feminine and masculine qualities? After deLion posted more about the Black Madonna recently, I checked a little further and found a picture of a crowned Black Madonna holding an infant, nominally representing the Virgin Mary and Christ Child. The original Black Goddess, however, goes all the way back to neolithic times, and the site I found mentioned that the Goddess's shrine is often associated with a cave, well or mountain, and the unvaryingly dark or black skin represents her under earth or her fallow winter aspect. If you want to see a picture of a Black Madonna, go to http://jblstatue.com/pages/monserrat_black.html. There are many parallels between Tlaloc ("path under the earth" or "long cave"; tied to rain and agriculture; = fertility) and the Black Madonna. There also appears to be a connection between the uo, with its black body and orange stripe, and the Black Madonna, with her black skin and, in the picture at the site noted above, reddish-orange robes!
Mark Borcherding - 12:05pm May 28, 1999 MST (#903 of 909)
dare to dream upon your own starJan ref #902 excellent observation "Tlaloc" as everything has both male and female qualities. The Black Madonna is feminine but obviously has a male aspect of thought. The Mayans also for some reason focused on the "dark rift" in the Milky Way galaxy. There are actually both white and black spiral arms in the Milky Way galaxy. This also seems to relate to the 4 center Chess board squares. 2 black squares 2 White squares and 2 White Spiral Arms 2 Black Spiral Arms. Hmmmmm.... 2 & 2 is 22 an now recall Jan how you were looking at 55 in fibonnaci? Look at this:
22 = 2+2 = 4 -and- 22 / 4 = 5.5
22 written in Mayan dot/bar math symbols looks like this:
O
O O
Notice this looks like a pyramid and it also has 3 dots like the 3 pyramids
on the Giza plateau. And it also symbolizes the Holy Trinity. I was looking at a plot
of the Binary and Fibonnaci sequeneces on a polar diagram in Drunvalo's book
and I recall the Fibonnaci has 5 points and Binary 4 points and they share 3 points
in common those shared points are 0, 120, 360 degrees and notice 360 / 3 = 120.Another interpretation of the dots by mayan tone and glyphs:
O Tone = 1
O O Glyph = "Ik" or "White Wind"
Thus the 3 dots symbolizes "1 Ik" also called "White Magnetic Wind" the Mayan
Ik or Wind glyph carries the power of Spirit. So you may also say this that
"1 Ik" = "One Spirit" which also is refered to as "Great Spirit" or "God" or "Goddess" or "One" or simply "All". Notice what happens when you add the mirror:O O
O O O O
+ =
O O O O
O O
Don McLean - 02:34pm May 28, 1999 MST (#904 of 909)Well, if there was ever any doubt, after those last three posts - 901, 902 & 903 - Pi is now officially very pregnant - and very emotional!
Now, I hope noone will take offense, for although Peach Pi is a fine and fitting name, Pi prefers to call the newborn "Charisma" - after the horse which he/she admires so much. We know that it may take a little time to sort out this entire affair - (it may be triplets!) - but Pi will deliver - and perhaps may do so more quickly than expected if Georgia, Mark and Jan would care to elucidate further on the subject of the Great White Wind. Pi is utterly convinced that it is most central to the chess board - and just about everything else one can imagine. Any details pertaining to this subject - no matter how irrelevant seeming are of great comfort to Pi - and I must say that "somewhere out there" lurks a "little wolf" who would also be interested in this particular aspect of Mayan spiritual knowledge inasmuch as there seems to be a direct tie-in with the Lakota legend of "Umi". Boy is this dragon getting fat!
Georgia Albert - 11:59pm May 28, 1999 MST (#905 of 909)A beautifully inlaid 5,000 year-old backgammon board of Queen Shub-ad was found in her tomb during the excavation of the ancient city of Ur of the Chaldees. Backgammon, according to what I've read is a blood cousin to checkers. Checkers is played on a chess board,Hmmmmmm. Some of the objects found on the Byzantine ship wreck were backgammon pieces, Hmmmmmm. Could Queen Shub-ad have played Chess? I wonder what other objects are to be found in her tomb.
Here is some more info. on triangles: In astronomy an equilateral triangle represents a trine; having to do with the aspect of two heavenly bodies 120 degrees distant from each other. A Trine n. "the trinity". I found this information in the World Book Dictionary. In meteorology an equilateral triangle stands for sleet, and if the triangle is colored in it stands for hail. If I find more triangles I will let you know. Xena, you have me looking for triangles, I may need a magic compass very soon:-) And in physics a small equilateral triangle means increment.
LOVE
G
May Manna Always be with You.
Mark Borcherding - 07:50am May 29, 1999 MST (#906 of 909)
dare to dream upon your own starDon ref 904 - Great White Wind - the "wind" or in mayan called "ik"symbol
can be found on many mayan drawings. The symbol looks like this:+-------------+
| |
+---+ +---+
| |
+-----+Ik is considered a portal God(ess) and is often paired with another portal wind god
as a pair of messengers. The other messenger is Cimi which carries the power of Death. The seed must die to become a plant. Cimi and Ik are the messengers of the First Mother The whole story is a little long to type but if you are interested look at the book "The Hidden Maya" by Martin Brennan ISBN 1-879181-24-X page 86.Recall this image from my last post 903
O
O OO O
ONow if you add 3 more dots in the center area they would form a square (cube) which has 8 corners and 1 center. We have 2 fundamental geometeric forms that can both hold the other platonic solids perfectly they are the Sphere and Cube or in 2D the circle and square. If you place a sphere in a cube they meet at the 6 sides + 1 center (7) and if you place the cube inside the sphere they meet at 8 vertices + 1 center (9). Now lets look at these two numbers 7 & 9 in terms of a number/tone sequence as the Mayans use. Note the mayans use a 13 tone system that has 7 at the center symbolizing the "sphere in a cube" now if we change to a "cube in a sphere" we go from a 7 to a 9. Recall what the number 9 means? Also remember the mayans had a special affinity for this number 9
.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 Note that our 7 + 9 = 16
Don the Lakota legend of "Umi" UM I = (3+4)+9 = 16
"Umi" in reverse is "Imu" or I Mu realating to "Le Mu ria"
Georgia wrote "ancient city of Ur of the Chaldees." Ur realtes to "le mURia"
Georgia Albert - 01:55pm May 29, 1999 MST (#907 of 909)Ref.# 906
Mark, interesting, you invoked the Goddess Mu. Remember many posts ago, the story of Mu, she was from the Americas and escaped to Egypt, aka Kmet, for safety. According to the story she was the original Isis.
I was listening to Art Bell last night, and they were discussing some of the things we have covered in our Weave. I have been trying to find the name of the man Hilly Rose was interviewing during the first hour of the program. If anyone knows his name would you please post it here, Thank You. This man was at the conference held in Kmet aka Egypt. I have a feeling alot of what has been posted in this Weave made it to the conference.
LOVE
G
May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.
Don McLean - 06:39pm May 29, 1999 MST (#908 of 909)Mark - many thanks for further explaining the Mayan concept of the Great White Wind - among other important things. I believe the Mayan system is the prototype of the Lakota's concept. I wish I understood either system a bit more thoroughly.
Just to tag onto that explanation - I dug back into some recent correspondance with john little wolf on both the now defunct "God as Physicist" discussion and currently breathing "Animist" folder on the "Oh My God" thang just to demonstrate the correspondance.
BTW - "Umi" is a kind of nickmane for "Yumanni" - so the numbers you presented may look differently with that clarification. I should have been more succinct.
Here are some of the "Umi" postings from the Physics discussion - There is something more than an acedemic connection lurking in these winds...
Don McLean - 11:40pm Mar 4, 1999 MST (#100 of 131)
From John Little Wolf Dear Don,
It has been much time since I posted on Art Bells Board or read it, However I will look and see what awaits.
Umi, the youngest son of Tate the wind. He is the visage of the unborn spirit in all mankind and legend says he will appear in man at a given time when the stresses are high and the cry is hailed.
Umi will awaken in man and the wirlwinds effects will bring back the Four older brother's that stand at each direction.
They will then reawaken the sleeping Mother and we will all hear her voice.
At this time Pte San Wi will return. She has been preparing for the past decade for the time that the South Wind Okaga, her mate, awakens the heart of Umi in mankind. It is now time.
Topa Tate Tunkasila, the Four Winds Grandfather's, are about to hasten the awakening of our hearts, let us pray we hear their call. Umi is at the gate waiting for us to find him.
Some will say that these are only stories and myth. But, on a metaphysical level they are more real than this Dream we are living. The Ghost Dance worked and the children of the ancestors are returning in the eyes of the children of today.
That's you and me and all those that feel the call and have a heart to sing. We are all ONE...
From deep with in my heart sings...
Mitakuye Oyatsin Hetchetu yelo, HO...
peace and balance,
john little wolf: Don, The search for Umi is litteraly the search for the self. The name Umi comes directly from the word Yummani or Tornado.
He is the youngest brother of the Four winds, he is the fifth. He is the hidden aspect of the human spirit. He is housed within your soul. HE is You. He is all of us. The storries of Umi are the storries of man. In the ancient tounge UMI translates as I AM...
To find Umi you must find yourself. There is a story of Umi discorvering a reflection a the moon on a pond. He directly had a conversation with this reflection "Han Wi" and was refering to her as his lost mother.
"Little mother how did you get into the sky?" The answer was enigmatic, "Son of Man, you put me here." Umi then asked, "Little mother why did I put you there?" She said again, "To protect me from yourself." Umi asked again, "Little Mother why would you need protection from me?" She smiled in his heart and said, "Unborn Son of Man, it is you that will travel to find me again and all your answers will be revealed."
Don McLean: John, now, I can say that the land remembers even if we do not. Umi and I had our meeting in the northern wilderness outlying this area. (There was a little LSD involved - LOL!)
john little wolf: There is not much written about the younger brother Umi because traditionaly this is a walk that the seeker must take alone, with the little help of a few friends, to coin a song. :) We can only hope we all find him. Be strong my friend We Heyoka sometimes after being touched by the thunder beings often become enthrauled in the confusion of rebuilding the whole picture. And pasting the many faiths together into an understanding whole can be very frustrating at best, but this could be the neatest and most fascinating struggle of our lives. Cool eh? :)
And to the rest of you, I am only happy to bring the many storries that I know, not that it is much, to you in hopes opening eyes and hearts is the result. Whatever you call your savior, Christ, Buddha, Mohamed, Umi. I hope we all find the connections in our belief and the love that waits out there for us all... thanks.
Mitakuye oyatsin hetchetu yelo. HO. peace and balance, john
Well there you have it. Mark, Georgia, Jan This might help explain a few things ;) - but there is more... There is ALWAYS more. Pi and I are locked in a Fibronacci sequence of some puzzling proportions. New answers keep arriving. I merely reap the harvest. Right now (as ever) there is considerable Manna raining down all over this chessboard. I dare say - it IS both the chessboard and the pieces - something like the triune God being both physics and physicist. I will now "Shhhh"... A baby is sleeping...
Georgia Albert - 07:00pm May 29, 1999 MST (#909 of 909)Umi translates to I AM.. Isis's famous saying is I AM WHAT I AM, could this be a connection?
Spirt Cave Man, who was found in Nevada, dates back to about 5000 BCE, he was using manna.
Manna for thought.
LOVE
G
May Manna Always be with You.
Mark Borcherding - 08:15pm May 29, 1999 MST (#910 of 911)
dare to dream upon your own starDon ref #908 interesting the root harmonic is still the same 7.
"Yumanni" = 34 = 7
"Umi" = 16 = 7Interesting Yumanni is the 5th which would be the center of the medicine wheel.
north west center east south Georgia look at this connection between you and Don's posts:
"Manna" = 16 = 7 must be heart manna : )I like your relating Umi and I AM and connection to I S I S.
"I am what I am" = 44 now we get Jan's fibonnaci 55 again
by this 44 = 4+4 = 8 and 44 / 8 = 5.555 + 9 = 64 chess squares
Don McLean - 10:46am May 30, 1999 MST (#911 of 911)Mark & Georgia...
Verrry interesting... Manna, divination, pagan/primoridal rites, and the medicine wheel... Even as we live and breathe, Pi is introducing Charisma to the chess board.
Mark, your interpretation of Yumanni and its position on the medicine wheel is something which I find of SINGULARLY GREAT SIGNIFICANCE as it pertains to the overall purpose, portent, form and content of this discussion.
If we transpose your diagram (#910) onto the chess board, it seems obvious that there, smack dab in the center of the board - on a "hidden" square - resides a transcendental secret. If we view this "Yumanni Square" as being not a square at all, but the central axis of all the "lines" that converge at the middle of the board - then it is possible to make many clear analytical statements about the board and the game itself - and its place amid sacred and mystical systems of knowledge - rites de passage.
The central median...not only is it symbolic of a "Logos" within the chessboard's web - and the capacity of this web to instill personal self-reflection - but it also proposes a pivitol and tranformative point of departure for reflections of the divinity hidden within all of us. We could further state that it is a kind of vanishing point - the hidden hand - the prime mover and shaker and, if you will, the elusive though highly symbolic matrix of "dark (invisible) matter" - the hidden six of ten, or nine of thirteen dimensions which superstring interpretations of creation and the big bang propose. It is no less than that - and once you have this in hand there is no need for further search IMHO - only discernment and progressively refined interpretation.
Yumanni is the mirror - the bridge - the grail - the declaration of Isis and of the Christos - as well as all other "true" gods and goddesses inhabiting whatever pantheon we choose to invoke. It conceals a dynamism and a process which leads us on a Fibronacci search for ourselves. It is Spiral and elliptical and repeats with mathematically overlapping points of convergence even as we are spirited towards successively evolved appreciations of what it is to be correspondingly human and divine. Pi in the sky is forever having another baby. Who could ask for more?
Be on the lookout for Love. The archeological dig that has so recently brought us a lovely photo of ancient Persian chess pieces ...(and an accompanying attachment that was too large for me to open BTW - Jan can you try this again - maybe break it down into smaller chunks of Manna - or send encoded as M.S. Word "rich text")... anyway, I anticipate that the final outcome will reveal an ancient system of some initiatory process which may have descended through a elite cabal of "seekers" on through the many levels of social strata. This signifies that it may have been a learning device - a method of approaching both practical and ineffible mysteries which, though founded in ancient times, underscores the ongoing symphony of emenations conditional to the inspired nature of its human authorship. Although the game has suffered through the self-same post-deluge dislocation of primoridal traditions the world over - in a parallel fashion, the game endures to this day. Sadly, this is done amid a preponderance of militaristic interpretations and the tendency to value the pieces and their movement (visible matter - materialism) over the complex meaning (transcendance) of the board itself.
It is my considered opinion that chess is all about a much more complex perspective than the current mainstream would admit. To regain the original vantage - we must overcome the prejudice of the recent past. It is a task akin to Champollion's deciphering of the Rosetta Stone. Variously, we can "dig" the board or we can excavate the planet.
Forthwith, I suspect also that a finely tuned archeology should reveal nothing less than an attendant, though perhaps anonymous caste of chess Priests and Priestesses - developers who, though possibly faceless and nameless, were nevetheless responsible for a coherent system of successive cultural translations and refinements of an order which has similarly spirited the human psyche along an evolutionary genesis - an historical illusion of sorts - reflections of eternity which lie hidden in perpetuity. Draw a time line from the Temple at Luxor towards the Cathedral at Chartres and you get my drift.
In closing, I would sumbit that the "interior design" of such architectural symbols were not cobbled together by a gaggle of mead drinking, bricklaying serfs - though exceptions may be encountered. Pawn promotion is ALWAYS a possibilty and even unsentimental knights have known to be unhorsed by forces beyond our comprehension - St. Paul being but one example...
Furthermore, I believe that analogies between developments in sacred architecture can be drawn from the progress of chess down through the millennia. Though the walls of the houses may have undergone stylistic changes, throughout the ages, the "spirit" remains fundamental and immutable. So it is with chess and the chessboard.
Doralee Ferona - 07:35pm May 30, 1999 MST (#912 of 920)So has anyone been keeping track of these wonderful posts?
Vickie Ramirez - 08:12pm May 30, 1999 MST (#913 of 920)
O Music! In your depths we deposit our hearts and souls. Thou hast taught us to see with our ears, and hear with our hearts.Hi Everyone, I just ran across on interesting information that relates to our discussion a few posts back about ritual sacrifices as it relates to the game of chess.
Here is an excerpt from the article post on this website:
The marriage of Princess Diana to Charles, also in July, was timed and located in the same way as part of a ritual. St. Paul's Cathedral, where the marriage took place, is built on an ancient site of Goddess Diana worship at Ludgate Hill in the heart of the City of London - the ... epicentre at operational level. Diana also died in Paris on an ancient site of ritual sacrifice to the Goddess Diana, now known as the Pont d'Alma tunnel.
If you would like to read more about this this URL is
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/reading/wilder.html
Mark Borcherding - 08:12pm May 30, 1999 MST (#914 of 920)
dare to dream upon your own starDon ref 911 ... wow very neatly said. Yes there is the seemly hidden axis, point, and it appears on many levels as does the number of squares on the Chessboard look at how many different sizes of squares there are on the board depending upon how many of the smallest squares you include.
In the Mayan/Pleiadian cosmology the Human system has 5 chakras and the heart is
the transmutation or tranduce chakra that unifies All. Look at the word H E A R T
and then look at the name of our planet E A R T H
Crown Throat Heart Solar Plexus Root You could also draw it like this:
Throat
airCrown
waterHeart
loveRoot
earthSolar Plexus
fire"root throat crown solar plexus heart" = 149 = 1+4+9 = 14 = 1+4 = 5
"earth air water fire love" = 113 = 1+1+3 = 5
The Great Pyramid has 4 base points (East, North, West, South) medicine wheel
and 1 capstone thus 4+1 = 5 The capstone is the center and connects from the heart-core of Earth up thru the queen's chamber then to the king's chamber then up thru the top and out into the Heaven. Thus the union of the queen and king thru Love bridge Heaven and Earth.
Vickie Ramirez - 08:15pm May 30, 1999 MST (#915 of 920)
O Music! In your depths we deposit our hearts and souls. Thou hast taught us to see with our ears, and hear with our hearts.Hi Doralee, the answer to your question is YES! If you have not already heard from JanXena, I will send you email with more details.
Jan Newton - 05:47am May 31, 1999 MST (#916 of 920)Good morning, everyone!
Terpsichore, I will send Doralee an e-mail. I am working, working, working, Terpsy!
I will check out the information on Princess Diana. Very eery. Everyone has been so busy here, it will take me some time to work through the posts and make (I hope) intelligent contribution/comment. A bientot, darlings.
Mark Borcherding - 08:37am May 31, 1999 MST (#917 of 920)
dare to dream upon your own starI forgot who mentioned this before ... yesterday Mer and I were in Estes Park CO
and I saw a Chess set in a shop and instead of Knight(ess) is had a Dragon."Dragon" = 32 and two dragons ( yin , yang ) would = 64 (chess squares)
Note that 2 dragons 32 = 3+2 = 5 would also give us the 5 5 see the 5 in post 914
and 55 in Jan's posts."Dragon Knight" = 65 = 64 + 1 64=many + 1=whole
In the Mayan system there are solar glyphs for both Dragon and Night called "Imix"
and "Akbal". Dragon glyph carries the power of Birth and Night carries the power
of Abundance. So combined they give us power of Abundant Birth. Well that sounds
like some Goddess energy to me."Imix Akbal" = 37 = "Black Madonna"
Jan Newton - 08:51am May 31, 1999 MST (#918 of 920)Well, I read the information at the site Terpsichore gave for David Icke. Hmmmm... Don't think Sophie Rhys-Jones is a lookalike of Princess Diana, for one thing; for another, no verification given for the allegations that the cathedral where Diana was married and the tunnel in which she died were ancient sites of sacrifice to the goddess Diana. Unsubstantiated allegations aren't worth a hill of beans where I come from. Interesting, but I shall take a wait and see attitude. Of course, if Sophie isn't sacrificed sometime in August, then the lady Arizona can always say she and others of her ilk were successful in warding off the planned sacrifice through their combined spiritual energies. Convenient, n'est ce pas?
I'm not saying I don't think things like this don't happen - only that I'm highly sceptical that someone by the name of "Arizona" has any particular inside poop.
Jan Newton - 08:56am May 31, 1999 MST (#919 of 920)Mark, in light of what you said in your post 917, it would appear that Pi is definitely on the way to presenting us with triplets. Mark, could you do the "numbers" on Charisma for deLion? Also, we should start thinking about additional names for the other two soon to be borne babes. I had suggested Scylla and Charybdis -- too dark? I don't know - I think the three names together have a definite "ring" to 'em!
I will post later about an alternative version of chess that Gerhard invented and sent me information on. Most interesting.
Mark Borcherding - 11:04am May 31, 1999 MST (#920 of 920)
dare to dream upon your own starJan ref 919 here are your numbers requested and look at them I would
say jackpot! ... pot of Gold has been found!"Charisma" = 36 = 9
"Scylla" = 18 = 9
"Charybdis" = 44 = 8Now we have a Trinity and all three names sum to a 98
9+8 = 17 and the center number of the numbers from 1 to 17 is 9
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 Note what each of the color pairs sum to across the reflection point of 9
1 + 17 = 18 , 2 + 16 = 18 ... and so on all sum to 18 ... "Love" = 18
"Chess" = 18
Jan Newton - 04:47am Jun 1, 1999 MST (#921 of 926)Thank you, Mark. It will be interesting to see what Pi decides to do regarding names for the soon-to-be offspring. Do you suppose we'll receive gold-edged announcements with edges lovingly crimped by dragon teeth?
Georgia re your post 905, where did you find the information on Queen Shub-ad? Was it in the latest issue of Archaeology? Let me know and I will get my hands on a copy. The information you gave on triangles was interesting. Here's one that popped into my head this morning just as I was getting ready to post: the Eternal Triangle. Man, Woman, and ? - with ? being the eternal "monkey wrench" in the works. What a world we live in.
Mark, regarding your post 906, couldn't help but notice that the "Ik" symbol looks a whole lot like a cross - a Tau. What you posted about Ik and Cimi being paired and the importance of the passage from one form (phase) to another strikingly reminds me of what we were talking about a few weeks ago in connection with the original Hercules legend, king sacrifice and the purpose/meaning behind the rituals. Remember how he was bound to a tree as part of the sacrificial ritual? In some translations of the Bible, the word "cross" is not used, but the word "tree" is used as the more correct translation for the Greek work "stauros", which is what Christ was put to death on; meaning, literally, a pole, post, or stripped down tree trunk. Interesting how that concept keeps cropping up.
delion, in light of what you posted about Umi in 908, would recurring dreams over many years involving tornadoes reflect a continuing search for oneself, or perhaps a continual prod that one should start a search for oneself?
Mark Borcherding - 05:54am Jun 1, 1999 MST (#922 of 948)
dare to dream upon your own starJan ref 921 the Mayans and other indigenous peoples refer to the "World Tree".
Note what happens when you take the "IK" symbol in post 906 and have
4 IK symbols put together like this around the medicine wheel
IK Symbol
x x x x Note I have hi-lighted the tip of the IK symbol green and in
(A) below the 4 IK symbols point "outward" and in (B) they
point "inward". The green recall helps you see where the tip
of the IK symbol is pointing.
(A) Outward (B) Inward
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x xx x
Don McLean - 07:05am Jun 1, 1999 MST (#923 of 948)"I have often walked - on this street before...."
Mark - Pi says "Home is where the hearth is". Animus Mundi = Hearth and Soul? "Axis Mundi" - could this be found on the street where you live....?!
Beautiful names, Scylla and Charybdis. Resonant too! But, oh those mythical beasts had such terrible table manners! :-) Pi is reluctant to name the twins after them as well. The search must continue. We appreciate all efforts in this direction.
Pi (remember "National Velvet"?) and Charisma have certain equine traits, and are, for the time being, content to graze the chessboard and the blue grass of Kentucky. Maybe someday Pi will teach Charisma how to chew interesting geometric patterns in the English countryside.
The Mayan "Ah San Winik" - sounds very much like john little wolf's figure of "Pte San Wi". There is historical convergence between Mayan, and derivative Hopi and Lakota Dreamspell. Here is a quote from David Stuart's website of Mayan archeology, culture and legend.
"Mayan society has changed profoundly from the times of the ancient Maya. In ancient times, the kings and lords of the Maya were their conduits to the otherworld. They were the shamans of old. They had great power and responsibility in this role as a shaman-king. They could move within what the Maya considered the axis mundi - world axis - in states of trance to consult the gods and their ancestors. They could battle the forces of evil, death, disease, and drought. They were the shamans of old and they were kings who held power. They were the Maya elite."
" deLion, in light of what you posted about Umi in 908, would recurring dreams over many years involving tornadoes reflect a continuing search for oneself, or perhaps a continual prod that one should start a search for oneself?"
Jan, like Scylla and Charybdis, the tornado appears to be a wrathful compliment to the peaceful and playful deities - perhaps the whirrling "dark arms" in the midst of visible galactic light - the milky way - according to the Mayan vision. I would say that it is wise neither to fear nor disregard the wrathful deities. All is one.
Umi is consonant with self reflection and a triune emanation. To be absolutely sure what the tornado might signify, I would have to consult once again with john litte wolf. My feeling at this time is that the portent of the recurring tornado is symbolic of impending and inescapable change - irresistable forces that are beyond one's control. I think of Shiva - his dance - and the preliminarily destructive energy that is unleashed upon the world - laying everything waste in order to rebuild thorough the complimentary creative energy of Shakti - somewhat a marriage of heaven and hell. Shiva's act is similar to Christ's rebuilding of the body temple. After a symbolic three days the temple (knower) is transformed. This symbolic (though very real) process is often referred to as "metanoia" a pulling away from the past life of error as we learn to dance into the light. It is to me a highly important step in the evolution of transformed consciousness. Odd it is that Christ and Shiva are similarly referred to as "Lord of the Dance". Dreams are always a tricky matter though.
Jan, Pertaining to your trinitarian "monkey wrench" - of course the third would be the "child" - would it not? Here's a new (for me) take on the trinity that I just discovered last night while doing an Alta Vista search for "Imix". (BTW - the symbol fo Imix looks very similar to one of the Arabian chess characters. I think that might be bending things a litte though...)
Once again through David Stuart... In the Mayan lexicon, the BEHEADED (ah ha!) Father "spat" upon the grieving mother and the result was the birth of... "supernatural twins Hunahpu and Xbalanque. The Hero Twins defeated death and resurrected their father and uncle. It is this that provides hope for rebirth for the Maya. It is the trickery and cunning of the Hero twins that enables this to occur. It is the ballgame where the Hero Twins battle with death, decay, disease, and evil. They win in the outcome of the Popol Vuh. They conquer each of the lords of the underworld."
Hmmm.... Hunahpu and Xbalanque? Pi LIKES those names!!! But we'll hold up here before making anything official.
Mark Borcherding - 08:11am Jun 1, 1999 MST (#924 of 948)
dare to dream upon your own starDon ... ref 923
"Xbalanque" = 34 = 3+4 = 7
"Hunahpu" = 35 = 3+5 = 878 is the sum of the tones on Mayan Pacal Votan's tomb at Palenque.
7+8 = 15 and the 15th mayan solar glyph is "Men" or "Blue Eagle" and carries
the power of Vision. Blue is of the West which is the direction of transformation.
Thoth states that he has seen the Sun rise in the East and also rise in the West.
"Thoth" = 26 = 8 , this means the Sphinx can watch the Sun-rise in one age and
also watch Sun-set in another age.7 - the 7th mayan glyph is "Manik" or "Blue Hand" and related to planet Earth
8 - the 8th mayan glyph is "Lamat" or "Yellow Star" and relates to planet VenusInteresting here we have the Goddess Venus and Earth both represented.
Look what happens when we combine these names."Venus Earth" = 43
"Jesus Christ" = 43
Jan Newton - 11:01am Jun 1, 1999 MST (#925 of 948)Greetings, deLion. In the Eternal Triangle I'm familiar with, the third is either another man or woman who is the monkey wrench - a very complicating factor as in our society our mindset is geared toward the danse a deux, not the danse a trois. The stuff great tragedies are made of. In chess terms, it might be the White Knight moving into block the Black Queen just before she achieves her goal of mate with the White King; or perhaps the Black Madonna Knightess moving into block the White Queen from the Black King. Neither is a pretty scenario to contemplate.
Don McLean - 01:06pm Jun 1, 1999 MST (#926 of 948)Hi Jan
Well that is a complicated scenario! IMHO any three part problem is difficult to resolve given the number of variants. It is commonly said that, in purely interactive terms, three lacks stability as well. The combined interactions of Anthony, Caesar and Cleopatra serve up a classic example.
One oddity to be found on the chessboard arrives at the endgame. With only three pieces left on the board, unless the Queen has the backing of her royal liege, the opposite king can proove quite slippery. One little blunder and a stalemate arises. One big blunder and all that remains on the board are two kings. Whereas the solo king can never "lose his head" - only the battle - the Queen is indeed vulnerable to a very ignoble fate. I suppose it's not always what we wager in love and war - but how we wager it. Kosovo might be a good example of a major tactical blunder. All those good intentions gone wrong!
Georgia Albert - 07:20pm Jun 1, 1999 MST (#927 of 948)Ref. #921
Jan, the source of the information about Queen Shub-add is "The Book of Word Origins" by Wilfred Funk Litt. D. page 313. As for triangles, The symbol for Delta, the fourth letter of the Greek alphabet, is a triangle. I have read that the name and shape of Delta, a triangle, was chosen because of the location of the Giza plateau, in the Nile delta. Let's get out our maps and see. Yes, the giza plateau does extend into the delta forming the top of a triangle, where would the base be? Now as to the validity on this story, I am not sure. I thought it was interesting. I will search my books and see if I can get you the reference information about Delta.
LOVE
G
May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.
Jan Newton - 08:50pm Jun 1, 1999 MST (#928 of 948)Isis, thanks for the information. I see I need to get back to the main library!
deLion, the outcome of Kosovo remains very much to be seen. The most obvious isn't always the truth. As for the solo King who loses the battle but retains his head, I would argue retaining his head at that point is totally moot. I would rather be the Queen who loses all in the ultimate gamble.
Don McLean - 10:22pm Jun 1, 1999 MST (#929 of 948)Jan
As I see it, for the Queen to lose all in the endgame as I previously described it, would, in a conventional "chess-sense", signify a form of deliberated and for all intents and purposes, unnecessary self-sacrifice. Of course, we can play the game in whatever fashion we wish. Free will and all that.
Otherwise, the only way that a Queen could be lost would be through some quirky combination of board positioning and pawn promotion. Since the solo king is more likely to flee than fight in the face of such impending odds and since his opposing king is more likely to protect his pawn than abdicate the possibility of its promotion and ensuing checkmate, it is illogical - at best highly improbable - that your scenario could play itself out given the basic tenants of the game. In fact, chances are, that well before the pawn is even promoted, the solo king would have the good sense to resign.
As NATO ground troops converge in Macedonia and the bombs continue to pepper Belgrade, I suspect that Milosovic's reported willingness to discuss a treaty is his final bid to forestall the disgrace of total defeat and military occupation. His resignation may be his only possible means of preventing a shooting war from taking place upon his own territorial square. It is also a means of saving what little face he may have left in his own country. Nonetheless, though accused of war crimes, it remains to be seen how he can effectively be removed from leadership while negotiating a peace. It is unfortunate that the victory for NATO may, in a certain sense prove Phyrric - if it hasn't already. But even so, as far as Kosovo and real life go, I grant that neither of these things will ever play out according to our precise wishes, calculations or divinations. The chess board is a crossword puzzle by comparison.
Jan Newton - 05:01am Jun 2, 1999 MST (#930 of 948)deLion, where did the pawn come from? We were speaking, I thought, of two Kings and a Queen. And of course I would do something totally and absolutely illogical with the Queen - at least, it would appear to be totally and absolutely illogical from the conventional standpoint. That is what being a Xena is partly about, and that is how Goddesschess is played. Play is as much to the hidden meanings of The Game as to what is happening on the Board with the physical pieces.
Mark Borcherding - 05:32am Jun 2, 1999 MST (#931 of 948)
dare to dream upon your own starYesterday, I saw an American Indian chess set and the Rook was symbolized
as an Ear of Corn. Interesting, since we were talking about the Corn Goddess
or Corn God (mayan)."Corn" = 23
"Rook" = 23There are 4 Rooks on the board and each pair of Rooks = 46 (chromosomes)
these 4 Rooks can be viewed as 4 towers of the chessboard Castle. Note it
is the Rook that makes the "castle" move with the King."King" = 23
I then thought of writing 23 in mayan symbols and here is what it looks like:
O
O O OThe top dot is 20 and the lower 3 dots is 3 (20+3=23). Notice how this looks
like our "IK" glyph mentioned in post 922. The IK glyph is also called "White Wind".
IK glyph
"Bolon Ik" is a name of the Mayan Goddess who presides on the planet Uranus
spiritually guiding Pacal Votan on planet Earth. Bolon means 9 so "Bolon Ik" means
9 Ik or 9 Wind. The Ik glyph carries the "power of Spirit". So "Bolon Ik" may also
mean "Spirit of 9".
Don McLean - 06:27am Jun 2, 1999 MST (#932 of 948)Hi Jan
Just to clarify...the pawn is more or less a Queen in waiting. If two Kings and one pawn are all that is left for the endgame, that pawn could become the Queen and then...que sera sera.
Mark - interesting about the corn symbol. I downloaded not all, but a few "suspicious looking" Mayan glyphs - those that I thought might stand a fair chance of being cousins to the Arabian pieces. I'll pass these around to whoever wishes to have them, but a I mentioned earlier, this might be pushing the envelope a little too far. Eh - so what! Nothing ventured...
As for "hard evidence" (I think we have a good circumstantial case already) I am keeping my fingers crossed in the hope that Georgia may come up with more ancient artifacts. A good facsimile of a chess set 2000+ years old might confirm a thesis particularly favourable to the goddess assertion vis a vis origins of the game. I think that, like everyone else posting here, I would like to be able to look beyond conjecture.
Somewhere in my travels I came across an item that outlined how Buddhist iconography (as we know present depictions of the Buddah and other figures in the pantheon) only came into existence prior to Alexander the Great - which would mean somewhere around 350 B.C. I think. As with the Moslems, Buddhists were not fans of the graven image and refrained from assigning human attributes to their gods and goddesses right up to the moment that west met east. Identifying ancient pieces might propose a prohibitively difficult archeological assignment given this tiny factoid.
Jan Newton - 11:09am Jun 2, 1999 MST (#933 of 948)deLion, I would like to see the Mayan glyphs. My computer should be able to handle it - I think! Gerhard recently sent me some graphics depicting (among other things) what appears to be a chess game in progress from - I think - an Egyptian tomb. I will hunt it up and send it to you and anyone else who is interested.
Don McLean - 12:00pm Jun 2, 1999 MST (#934 of 948)Hi Jan
Yes, by all means send that graphic! I know for a fact that somewhere there exists an ancient Greek depiction of Achilles (I think) and some other heroic counterpart hunched over something very much resembling a chessboard. Egypt? Yay! The further back in time we can go the better...
Mark - Pi is totally head over heels with your numbers for the Mayan Hero twins. 43 + 43 = 14 = (5). As for me, for some reason (maybe because I am half of a set of twins) I like 'em too... even though I find the interpretive details are a bit elusive at this time.
Mark Borcherding - 03:57pm Jun 2, 1999 MST (#935 of 948)
dare to dream upon your own starDon regarding the Mayan Hero Twins and connections, this has alot so reread it
I spent a little while putting this together and really seems to have alot of connections."Xbalanque" = 34
"Hunahpu" = 35"Jesus Christ" = 43
34 = "Xbalanque" Xbalanque was the second born of the hero twins and is associated with the Sun
and also the number 9. In Mayan handsign the number 9 is indicated by pressing
the thumb and index (1st) finger together. This finger position also means "Sun" .
Interesting that in mayan the left hand (feminine) has the sound "HU" as in HUman.
Xbalanque is a personified form of the Sun god Kauil. The daysign that Kauil was
born on is "1 Ahau" a very revered day in the sacred calendar. This day relates to the
planet Venus "Morning Star" which is a term used to refer to Jesus Christ. This we
see in the numbers above for Xbalanque and Jesus Christ beingof each other.
Kauil is refered to a "Smoking Mirror".The hero twins also represent opposites:
Hunahpu Water Female Venus Serpent glyph
Xbalanque Fire Male Sun Jaguar glyphThe hero twins sacred mission is to recover vital force and infuse it into the
skull of their dead father and thus resurrect father as the "Corn God - Yum Caax".
The twins succeed by unifying their powers of Fire and Water (male & female).Above Hunahpu relates to Serpent glyph and Xbalanque to Jaguar glyph and these mayan glyphs
relate to the asteriod belt (planet). Serpent is the "female inhale" glyph and Jaguar is the "male exhale" glyph
for that planet some call "Maldek" = 19.In the mayan system Serpent is the 5th glyph and Jaguar is the 14th glyph.
In 9 numerology "Maldek" = 19 = ( 5 + 14 )In numerology where A=1 ... Z=26 then "Maldek" = 46 (chromosomes) and 46
64
64 is the number of Chessboard squares.In Mayan reality it is the duty of humanity to intervene and establish order when the gods get out
of control. The Hero Twins represent balance in nature. What happened to the 5th planet in our
solar system that blasted it apart into the asteroid belt?Do the Hero Twins have something to do with healing the asteriod belt? Notice that numerically their
names are 34 & 35 in number we see both have the number 3 which happens to be the orbit of Earth.
The 3 tone in mayan system is the "Tone of Service" ..... what is our service?
H E A R T E A R T H
Jan Newton - 05:25pm Jun 2, 1999 MST (#936 of 948)Holmes, you asked a question "What is our service?" I submit it is the healing of the Heart of the Earth. We won't ultimately be successful in looking outward until we have first healed all within. This is a fundamental truth on many levels.
Playing with numbers, Holmes, observe! What does one get when one adds the numbers for Hunahpu (35) and Xbalanque (34)? How about this combination: (3+3) and (5+4); 6+9 = 69! Zounds, Holmes! Where have we seen THAT number before? The year that those who were born in the Year The Earth Stood Still (1951) graduated from high school! And, of course, symbolic of so much more, cough cough.
Er, ahem. Yes, where were we? Oh yes, on a more prosaic note, we could of course, add the 6+9 together and come up with 15, or 1+5 = 6. On the other hand, we could take the more direct route and simply add the value for Xbalanque (34 = 3+4 = 7) and the value Hunahpu (35 = 3+5 = 8), thusly 7+8 = 15; and reduce the 15 to 6. Behold, the 6 appears again! Does not the 6 represent those things related to romance, and marriage, and setting up a home, and the having of children, and all things domestic and related thereto?
Georgia Albert - 06:56pm Jun 2, 1999 MST (#937 of 948)The World Chess Championships, which were delayed this past winter, will be held next month in Las Vegas. Caesars Palace will play host to the event, with 100 of the world's top players, competition will begin July 30th. Final play is set for August 22-28, with closing ceremonies to be held August 29.
So, if your are in Las Vegas for the Championship, you will be able to join us at the Sahara Hotel at 8PM, August 13th l999. The Goddess is working her magix.
LOVE
G
May the Magix of the Goddess Always be with You.
Don McLean - 07:36pm Jun 2, 1999 MST (#938 of 948)Mark - Boy, did I ever lay an egg in my last post!
Got my numbers a bit confused %-) it would seem. (LOL) Both you and Jan are so way ahead with the numerical and Mayan data! What with this and babysitting Pi's triplets, I'm just doing my coping best.
Our service...? Aren't we supposed to be the "stewards" of a big blue ball - or ?! I think I read that somewhere.
Georgia - Las Vegas for the Championship? Wouldn't miss it for the world! Um...by any chance would someone out there happen to have a "lazy susan" they don't need kicking around? If so, PLEASE bring it to Vegas. I know how we can put it to good use. Seriously!
Jan Newton - 08:57pm Jun 2, 1999 MST (#939 of 948)deLion, I just happen to have a "spare" Lazy Susan in the upper cabinet, swathed in tissue paper for just such a contingency. Methinks I know what's afoot! Here, here! Will be sure to pack it away 'mongst the luggage most tenderly.
You all realize, of course, darlings, that when Isis and her cohort in crimes known and unknown (hint: Xena!), settled on the middle of August for the first historic meeting of the Goddesschess/Chessgoddess convention, we had no idea, no idea a'tall, ahem, ahem, ahem, cough, cough.... er, where was I? Oh yes, we had no idea a'tall - didn't I just say that? Well, whatever. We had no idea at all about this most monumental event (the WORLD CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS!) occuring midst the reign of Isis and Xena in BUDDY LOVE'S TOWN!!!!! Can I hear a rousing round of "That Ol' Black Magic"? Yeah!
Er, as I was saying, schedules in the practice (of law, not witchcraft), as such, being what they are, the most logical open dates for Xena Lawyer Extraordinaire with Her Magic Compass, was the middle of August, the lull before the storms of the Autumn. But as has been the case from the very beginning of This Wonderful Supernatural Weave, the Goddesses are smiling benignly upon us and our endeavors. I was totally floored by Isis' post! But, then again, it makes perfect sense, darlings! Isis will be there. Xena will be there. deLion will be there. Will you be there? We most sincerely hope you all will be there to help us celebrate that most wonderful of games, CHESS - the ultimate representation of life, and hope, and love!
Mark Borcherding - 05:28am Jun 3, 1999 MST (#940 of 948)
dare to dream upon your own starJan and Don your idea of Service sounds right on target! Should I say
it hits the center bullseye. Yes Don you layed a cool Egg. Jan the 69 is
also as we observed before 6 rotated 180 degrees is 9. What happens
if you just push the 6 & 9 into one? sort of make an 8 would it not.
6+9=15 and 15 + 3 (Earth orbit) = 18 "Chess", "Love" both = 18
Notice we used 3, 6,9 or written another way 3, 3+3, 3+3+3
Hmmmm.... 9 is a trinity of a trinity.Regarding Aug 13th there is also a solar eclipse happening that day.
The mayan/plieadian daycount started Aug 13, 3113BC.
Don McLean - 01:12pm Jun 3, 1999 MST (#941 of 948)Mark - just trying to redeem myself vis a vis previously botched accounting... :-)
3113 + 1999 = 5112 = 9
Even so. I am not 100% certain this is accurate in the calendrical sense. Am I perhaps missing one year or is it safe to assume that 0 B.C. = 1 A.D.?
BTW, Tut's tomb contained a very "interesting" artifact...namely a game of senet 46 cm. long (18 in.) ebony, ivory, gold leaf, pigment... Senet was played on three parallel rows of 10 squares - 30 squares total or 10x3.
The game of senet was ancient even when Tut played it: pictures of senet boards can be seen in tombs from a thousand years before him. The game seems to have been rather like backgammon or cribbage; two players raced each other's pieces to a safe zone on one end of the board. The moves were sometimes determined by rolling knucklebones (the remote ancestors of today's dice); this set was equipped with casting sticks instead, which could be tossed to produce a numerical result, as in the I Ching. The sticks for this set are very beautiful , one pair carved with tiny fingernails, the other with fox heads like those on an old-style fur piece. The stone playing pieces may not belong to the set, however.
Will forward the graphic upon request. Coincidentally (oh yeah, right! gag! LOL!) my sister presented me with a brochure today - announcing that there's an Imax presentation on Egypt playing in our town. Of course I'll have to take it in...
Jan Newton - 04:25pm Jun 3, 1999 MST (#942 of 948)deLion, your calculation is correct - there is no "zero" year, the calendar goes from 1BCE to 1CE.
Please send me the senet graphic. Sounds similar to the "Hounds and Jackals" game played by Nefertiri (Anne Baxter) and the Pharaoh (forget his name) in "The Ten Commandments".
Seems 8/13/99 will be a significant date for several reasons. Does anyone have any ideas how to get passes for the Chess Championships from FIDE?
Mark Borcherding - 04:36pm Jun 3, 1999 MST (#943 of 948)
dare to dream upon your own starDon ref 941 ... very interesting 3113 + 1999 = 9
3+1+1+3 + 1+9+9+9 = 36 = 3+6 = 9
"Don McLean" = 36 (9 numerology)
"Senet" = 18 "Chess" = 18 "Love" = 18
Don looks like you have found something with "senet". 18 = 1+8 = 9
The mirror of 18 is 81 and look at what we find here:"Don McLean" = 81 (26 numerology)
Now I will connect this back to the Mayan Hero twins namely "Hunahpu" = 35
When we add the two numerology systems 9 and 26 from above 9 + 26 = 35
Don McLean - 09:14am Jun 4, 1999 MST (#944 of 948)"Take me out to the ball game..."
Mark - Now that I look back on it - I guess that was a "cool" egg after all - just not what I intended. We succeed in spite of ourselves sometimes.
Well...its been a couple of days and I'm still assimilating your #935 as well as the most recent. I am not sure which is the most resonant, although I can say that (81 - aces and eights!) sure looks alot like me and as a twin I'm very honoured to stand so close (36) to a famous pair.
The Mayan glpyhs have sent me on a South American safari, where I have had the good fortune to encounter the twins, their sacred ball game and a whole lot more. I believe that I also discovered a Mayan Eve standing at the base of a calabash tree discussing the prospect of rejuvenation with some talking fruit! :-) The Popul Vuh is something truly special. I had no idea up until most recently.
Have also ammassed all that I could on the game of senet. Will post some additional details when I have time. Yes, Jan - there is a "Nfer" square among the five special end squares. The fact that the board is actually composed of squares is also a promising indication. Though somewhat more of a gamble, the "throw sticks" immediately reminded me of Mah Jong "counters".
Don McLean - 09:19am Jun 4, 1999 MST (#945 of 948)Marc - I almost forgot... 3+3+3 = 9 - a trinity of trinities is highly stable if you consider that we are dealing with the square root of one number. 8x8 and the recurring number 64 also share this unique property.
Mark Borcherding - 10:44am Jun 4, 1999 MST (#946 of 948)
dare to dream upon your own starDon ... Is that a Mayan Ball Game? : )
Yes I am finding that the Mayan artwork is very complex and deals with both the left and right sides of the brain. They are very detailed if you being to understand how to read them on many levels. And example of the male/female (left,right) is this tone glyph combination written in traditional mayan way this is "4 Ahau"
4 Ahau
O
O
O O
O | O
|
ODaytone 4 is on the left side above (female) that will cross into the right side of the brain (female)
thus the <male logic/rational> is being processed by the feminine.Solar glyph Ahau is on the right side above (male) that will cross into the left side of the brain (male)
thus the <female artistic/irrational> is being processed by the masculine.
Mark Borcherding - 11:25am Jun 4, 1999 MST (#947 of 948)
dare to dream upon your own starHere is another little interesting number play that I think everyone will like:
999 + 1 + 999 = 1999 Note we have above 1999 going both forwards and backwards.
With a female red 999 and a male yellow 999 united thru the center 1.Recall 64 Chessboard squares 64=6+4=10=1+0 = 1
Also 6446 = 23+23 chromosomes
Georgia Albert - 12:52pm Jun 4, 1999 MST (#948 of 948)Ref.# 944
DeLion, the Mah Jong counters and the Senet sticks, being so similar, causes me to recall the similarities between the Yarrow devining sticks, used in ancient Ireland, and the I Ching sticks (which are also made of Yarrow) of China.
Mark, are there any Mayan games that used sticks, Yarrow maybe?
A Solar eclipse, WOW, where can it be viewed from?
1999 1+9+9+9 = 28 The number of squares on the outer perimeter of the Chess board is 28.
LOVE
G
May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.
Jan Newton - 08:54pm Jun 4, 1999 MST (#949 of 967)"Take me out to the ball game...." Yes, that beloved game of 3 strikes yer out! and 9 innings! If a hurler would throw a "perfect game", he might, as a possible scenario, throw 9 (innings) x 3 (strikes, yer outta here, sucka!) x 3 players per inning= 81; which, of course, reduces to 9. And, as Holmes would no doubt point out, 81 is the mirror of "18", which is "love", which is also "chess".
The Game is afoot, Holmes!
Don McLean - 01:11am Jun 5, 1999 MST (#950 of 967)Ah! Basemball has been bery, bery good to me...
Well, the immortals Joe D. and Marilyn M. are probably looking down upon the proceedings even as we run the bases on this chess diamond. What two finer games of skill and strategy have ever been invented?
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