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The Weave Posts 951- 1000

     

Mark Borcherding - 07:19am Jun 5, 1999 MST (#951 of 967)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Georgia ref post 948

I am not familiar with any cases when the Mayans used sticks in a game. However,
Lacross and American Indian ball games are believed to have evolved from the mayan
ball court game.

The Mayans had a solar glyph that sort of relates to stick called "Reed". Note this is a unit
of measurement in the Bible. The glyph "Reed" also called "Ben", "Skywalker", or "Acatl".

"Skywalker" = 35 = "Hunahpu" (Mayan Hero Twin)

Note that Reed / Skywalker is the 13th glyph of the 20 mayan solar glyphs.


Georgia Albert - 03:59pm Jun 5, 1999 MST (#952 of 967)

I have started reading the rules of Chess again. It has been a long time and many new things to learn. One thing that caught my attention was the moves of the Bishop/Bishopess, when the bishop is placed in the center of the board the number of possibe moves is 13, try it. When the Queen is placed in the center of the board she has 28 possible moves and when the King is placed in the center it has 8 possible moves. The Rook has 14 possible moves and the Knight/Knightess has 4 possible moves.

LOVE

G

May Manna Always be with You.


Georgia Albert - 05:59pm Jun 5, 1999 MST (#953 of 967)

Ref.#952

Oops! Correction: The Knight can move to 8 possible places from the center of the board, not 4.

Refering back many, many posts ago about Carthage, the root Car does refer to the Goddess Car, as for thage, the meaning is not clear, it could mean home or house, hage, or something else all together.

LOVE

G


Jan Newton - 06:37pm Jun 5, 1999 MST (#954 of 967)

"Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you...". Yeah, jilted joe left and has gone away to join his never in-his-heart divorced wife, Norma Jean. Read the Newsweek extracts from the book a bit ago and was struck that years after their tulmultuous marriage and divorce, Norma Jean called Joe when she was incarcerated in a mental institution and Joe came to the rescue, breathing fire and flames. "I'm here for my wife", he said. No one dared stop him. Out went Norma Jean and Joe.

Sometimes the King comes to the rescue of the Queen.


Mark Borcherding - 09:16pm Jun 5, 1999 MST (#955 of 967)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Georgia,

I notice this about your placing the pieces in the center and counting the number
of places that they may move to:
 
Queen 28
King 8
Knight 8
Bishop 13
Rook 14

The Bishop is the only one moving an Odd number.
The King and Knight have the same number 8.
The Queen's 28 is the same as the number of outside squares being 28

28 + 8 + 8 + 13 + 14 = 71  17

The 17th glyph is called "Caban" or "Red Earth"

Tone 1 + Glyph 17 = "O n e E a r t h" = 18 = "L o v e"


Don McLean - 10:12pm Jun 5, 1999 MST (#956 of 967)

Mark - just returning to your #946..

4 Ahau

"Daytone 4 is on the left side above (female) that will cross into the right side of the brain (female) thus the is being processed by the feminine.

Solar glyph Ahau is on the right side above (male) that will cross into the left side of the brain (male) thus the is being processed by the masculine."

This more than hints at a form of Mayan "psychology" - a tranformative notion. Does this information propose a "particular" case ie. is there a counter or opposite rule, or is this more or less a standard Mayan means of looking at the human psyche in general? It appears also to echo an important passage found in the Gospel of St. Thomas.

By the way - the word "cannon" translates as "reed" and was derived from a system of measurement used in Biblical times - perhaps by the Egyptians if I am not mistaken.

The Ten Commandments - wasn't it Anne Baxter with Yul Brenner as the pharoah?

The king was in the counting house counting all his money The queen was in the parlour eating bread and honey The maid was in the ??? hanging up the clothes When along came a blackbird and snipped off her nose.

More rooks and rocs - inside the castle walls.


Jan Newton - 05:03am Jun 6, 1999 MST (#957 of 967)

Four and Twenty Blackbirds Baked In a Pie...the minute I saw the words I could hear the tune!

Yul Brenner was Pharaoh later in the movie but there was an older actor who played his predecessor, the guy Moses built the city for - I think he was called Seti in the film.

Information on the reed from Bonnie Gaunt's Book "Stonehenge and the Great Pyramid": a reed equals 10.56 feet; the unit of measure was given to Ezekiel by God in his vision of the divine temple; Ezekiel 40:5 defines the measure as "a measuring reed of six great cubits long, by the cubit and a hand breadth". Gaunt says this "great cubit" plus the "moderate cubit" (the hand breadth) equals 21.12 British inches or 1.76 feet. Six great cubits make the reed of 10.56 feet or 126.72 inches.


Mark Borcherding - 07:06am Jun 6, 1999 MST (#958 of 967)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Don ... yes I believe the male/female mirrors as wells as the life/death mirror was in everything
the Mayans did. We still see it in Mexico today with the skeletons adroned with flowers symbolically
showing life springing from death. "4 Ahau" is also the daytone 4 and glyph Ahau (sun) when the
end of the Mayan cycle on Dec 21, 2012. Notice how this connects to Jans post " 21.12 British inches"
21.12 = 21st of Dec.

"Four and Twenty Blackbirds Baked In a Pie" there are Four and Twenty Elders
mentioned in the Bible's Revelations. Measuring Reed being 6 cubits and I recall in Bonnies
or another book a cubit of 18 inches and 6 x 18 = 108 the number of beads on a prayer
string. Here is relation with Jan's caculations 126.72 = 108 + 18.72.

Four and Twenty is 4 & 20  the 20th mayan glyph is Ahau so this again is "4 Ahau"

360 + (20+20+20) = 420    note that a trinity of 20's was added in the Bible's Revelations
                                           there is written a trinity of "Holy, holy, holy"
 
                                           ( 9 numerology) "Holy" = 24    (4+20)
 
                                           (26 numerology) "Holy" = 60   (20+20+20)

The colors Violet and Green symbolize the Crown Head chakra and Center Heart chakra uniting.


Mark Borcherding - 11:34am Jun 6, 1999 MST (#959 of 967)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Here is some info on fibonnaci and golden mean that you all might be interested in.
Notice the numbers mentioned in the writing as you read they have come up in our
posts on Chess.
 
C hildren
H ear
E arth
S inging
S tarsong
CLICK HERE FOR LINK
 

"The Golden Mean Spiral" = 90


Georgia Albert - 08:20pm Jun 6, 1999 MST (#960 of 967)

The Grand Cross / Solar Eclipse

August 11th 1999 7:09 EDT, Washington D.C

The Grand Cross is a powerful configuration of planets, in the shape of a cross, it activates the heart of the four fixed signs of the zodiac. I know very little about astrology but, I have a feeling the astrologers are having a good time with the placement of the planets and the solar eclipse to boot.

What I thought was Very interesting was the path of the eclipse. It begins at Washington D.C. and passes through England, France, central Europe and down to India where the eclipse ends.

Ref. #955 Mark I forgot the Pawn, when placed in the center of the board it only has one move.

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Godess Always be with You.


Jan Newton - 04:32am Jun 7, 1999 MST (#961 of 967)

Did a little scouting around last night for the history behind the nursery rhyme "Sing a Song of Sixpence" and found out some interesting facts. A site I found here http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/3041/sixpence.html, connects the rhyme to Henry VIII and his habit of confiscating properties - whether of the Catholic church (most likely in this case) or of disfavored nobles, with the deeds to the confiscated properties being presented to him as a gift inside a pie; in this case, the "four and twenty blackbirds" would represented the displaced monks! The rhyme about "Little Jack Horner" has apparently the same origins.

The geocities site contains the words to the Sixpence rhyme. For a slighly different version of the wording, see http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/lit/othertales/TwilightStories/chap38.html.


Georgia Albert - 10:57am Jun 7, 1999 MST (#962 of 967)

In ancient Egypt, the new year began in August with the return of Sirius, the Dog Star, brightest of all the stars. Its reappearance was a signal to people who lived along the Nile River. Sirius always returned just before the river rose, and so announced the coming of flood waters. The Egyptians then opened the gates of canals that irrigated their fields.

Priests, who were the calendar keepers, sighted the first rising of the Dog Star from their temples. In one temple, at the end of an aisle lined by tall columns, was the statue of a goddess (Isis?).A big jewel hung from her forehead. The statue was placed so that light from the returning Dog Star would fall upon the gem and make it gleam. Each August when the priests saw the jewel shine for the first time, they would march from the temple and announce the begining of a new year.

I found this information in the 1955 edition of Astronomy by Golden Press.

The Dog days of August, the hottest time of the year, gets it name from the Dog Star Sirius, also known as the Scorcher.

It looks like the New Year will be brought in with lots of fanfair this year. There will be a solar eclipse and the grand cross, all happpening in August. Not to forget our Meeting in August.

I was reading in The White Goddess by Graves, that the trinity of the Goddess was associated with the colors, white, red and black, sometimes blue. I tried to fit this trinity into Chess. If the bishops are looked at as goddesses we have a white goddess moving on only the white square, and we have a black goddess moving on only the black squares, that would make the Queen red. Hmmmmmm

I also picked up on the red, white, and blue goddess trinity. Could there be a tie between the American flag and the French flag? I believe these colors, red, white, and blue, were a deliberate choice for these flags. What are your thoughts?

LOVE

G

May Manna Always Be With You.


Mark Borcherding - 12:31pm Jun 7, 1999 MST (#963 of 967)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Georgia,

The Mayans watched Sirius as well and the 3 Stones in the mayan creation stories
refer to the 3 stars on the belt of Orion. Also interesting that the 10th Mayan solar
glyph is called "Oc" or "White Dog". The Dog glyph relates to the planet Mercury
(Thoth,Horus) and the Dog glyph carries the "power of Heart". It is the first exhale
glyph from our Sun's breath out. Nice knowing the very first thing our "Star" breaths out
into the galaxy is "power of Heart" = "Love" = 18

I think you have a neat idea with the "Trinity" of Red, White and Blue look at where
these are on the medicine wheel.

North
West Center East
South

"Red" = 18
"White" = 29
"Blue" = 13

Red + White + Blue = 18 + 29 + 13 = 60

In Mayan the 20th glyph is the Sun "Ahau" and thus with a Trinity:
Ahau glyph + Ahau glyph + Ahau glyph = 20 + 20 + 20 = 60

Kin 60 "8  Ahau" was when mayan Pacal Votan was born. He died on Kin 58 "6 Etznab"

If you use Black instead of Blue for the West "direction of Transformation": "Black" =11 thus:
Red + White + Black = 18 + 29 + 11 = 58

Pacal Votan's spirit guide is Bolon Ik also called "White Solar Wind" seems to relate
to the "White Goddess".


Georgia Albert - 04:01pm Jun 7, 1999 MST (#964 of 967)

Mark, your graphic of the medicine wheel shows, the above is the same as below, Very Nice.

LOVE

G


Jan Newton - 04:57am Jun 8, 1999 MST (#965 of 967)

I found several interesting connecting threads to subjects we have recently discussed here while doing some research on the eternal triangle. First, I have to note that one site I ran across was entirely devoted to the eternal triangle of Popeye, Olive Oyl and Bluto! I located the following through a site I found while following the trail of Guinevere, part of another famous triangle: Arthur, Guinevere and Lancelot (or Mordred, per some Celtic versions of the legend). There is a ton of great material here, http://www.oberlin/edu/~arester/arthur.html, written by Aaron Rester in May, 1996.

1. He links the Celtic Lugh (Welsh Lleu) to Arthur, both of whom are incarnations of a sun god "which probably stem(s) from a hypothetical Indo-European root somehow linked to agriculture". In "The White Goddess", Graves discusses Lleu (Lugh) extensively. Rester notes a connection between Arthur's father, Uther Pendragon, to Bran, son of the Welsh sea god, Llyr; Graves traces Bran all the way back to her original goddess form (whose name escapes me at the moment) from, I believe, Greece -- Isis, did you keep any notes on this?

2. In an examination of numerous myths and legends, he traces out the recurring theme of an annual battle between two men for the possession of a woman, who represents the right to rulership over the land; when one loses the woman, he loses the right to rule; quite literally in some cases, the kingdom falls apart while the bereft king seeks to regain his lost queen. This is very reminiscent of the origins of the Hercules/king sacrifice, done originally twice a year, than annually -- the kingship was tied to his marriage to the priestess, who represented the land.

3. There are two separate strands tying into the seasonal notion of the abduction/battle sequences in the various myths and legends. One strand focuses on the beginning of May - the first of May was the date of the festival to Beltaine (Belana in her original form - originally a goddess she was transformed, when the goddess fell out of favor, into a male). Rester cites the following characters from "Cwlhwch and Olwen": Gwyn ap Nudd (originally linked with war and death), and the battle he wages with Gwythyr ap Greidawl ("Victor, son of Scorcher") over Creiddylad, daughter of Llud (the Welsh Nuada). Gywn and Gwythyr are destined to "fight forever each May-calends (the first of May) till the day of doom". He also cites a very early version of the tale of Trystan and Isoldt - which decided the feud over Isoldt that one would have her while the leaves were on the trees, and the other when they were bare (the one who made this choice lost the woman forever since there are some trees that never lose their leaves).

A second separate strand is connected to Arthur and to Lugh, and to August 1 (possible tie-in to Isis' most recent post about Sirius and the Egyptians?), the date the Celtic festival of Lugnasad is held to mark the end of summer. Lugnasad is an assembly (nasad) or festival to commemorate a death - the waning of summer. I speculate that perhaps originally the death that was commemorated was an actual one - the ritual sacrifice of the king!

More later - found another fascinating chess tale in these materials.


Mark Borcherding - 05:27am Jun 8, 1999 MST (#966 of 967)
dare to dream upon your own star

Georgia ... how do you like this one?
Notice the words Earth and Heart

O
 
A O
 
R H E

O
T
O


Jan Newton - 04:17pm Jun 8, 1999 MST (#967 of 967)

Mark, I think No. 966 should become the pennant of the Goddesschess Society.

A chess story, from Rester's materials, taken from "The Wooing of Etain", dating back at least to the ninth century (800's CE). Etain was the wife of Mider, one of the Tuatha de Danaan, and was stolen from him by Angus Og, another of the Tuatha de Danaan. She was turned into a fly by a rival, accidentally swallowed by a woman, and reborn as a human, the most beautiful woman in Ireland, with no memory of her former life. She married a mortal king, Eochaid. Mider comes to Eochaid's court to reclaim her, and when she refuses to go with him, he challenges Eochaid to a chess match, with the stakes being that the winner gets to choose his prize. Eochaid wins the first game, and orders Mider and his folk to build a road through Ireland. During the construction, Eochaid notices the method of the Tuatha de Danaan of yoking their oxen, and emulates it, thus earning the name "Airem", or "Plowman", as he is the first mortal to do this. (Rester cites sources that tie this title to Arthur and to Lug). A year later, Eochaid and Mider play again, but this time Mider wins and names Etain as his prize. Eochaid raises an army and lays seige to the sidh (fairy mound) where Mider lives, eventually forcing him to give Etain back.

I think what I find most fascinating about this myth, which is reliably dated back to at least the 9th century, are the concrete references to chess. My recollection of "accepted (acceptable) chess history" is that chess did not arrive in the British Isles until, I believe, the 11th century, which leaves us with a discrepancy of 200 years if one accepts the "accepted" chronology. Of more import regarding the chess chronology, is the fact that this story appears to be an early version of the Arthur/Guinivere/Mordred legend, which dates from the 6th century -- meaning that if the references were carried over from the earliest versions of the Arthurian legend, chess would have been in England with the Celts and the Angles and the Saxons before - following the "accepted" calendar, it even made its way to Arabia by way of Persia!

Of course, those who follow the "accepted" chronology would say that any references to chess in Celtic legends are patent nonsense. Interesting, isn't it, that this is the second chess reference arising out of the land of the Celts and the Tuatha de Danaan. The first was talked about many many posts ago when I described the games Lugh played and won in order to gain entrance into the castle at Tara. Those "People of the Goddess Danu" - such pesky creatures, invading other peoples' countries, bringing their goddesses and sacrificial rites with them, bringing chess from -- ahhhh, now that's another story!


Georgia Albert - 07:14pm Jun 8, 1999 MST (#968 of 995)

Ref.#965

Jan, in your post you mention Victor, son of Scorcher. Back in post 962 I posted about Sirius, the Dog Star aka The Scorcher. I thought this was an interesting and possible tie with ancient Egypt. I would love to get into the basement of the Cairo Museum and look around. Do you think I have a shot at it? :-)

LOVE

G


Jan Newton - 04:28am Jun 9, 1999 MST (#969 of 995)

Well, this is interesting. I did a post in response to Georgia's 968, and it has disappeared into the ether. I don't want to have to redo it and so I will wait to see if it shows up in a few hours, or a few days.

A few final thoughts about Rester's materials. He states that "the struggle between two men over a woman is, of course, a motif found in folklore and myth in just about every human culture". He cites the story of the Trojan War as an example. Query: anyone familiar with other ancient "eternal triangles"? In his conclusion, he states "Presumably, for a people who lived as close to the earth as the Celts did, the alternation of summer and winter was the ultimate manifestation of the battle between light and dark, and the triangles we have been discussion are one such form of expresion. The summer (Lugh/Arthur, with his allies of heat and fire) vies with winter and darkness (the captor/lover) for the right to Sovereignty, and to the land itself."


Mark Borcherding - 05:24am Jun 9, 1999 MST (#970 of 995)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Jan ref 967 ... well thank you ...

"Earth"    = 25 = "Heart"
"Chess" = 18     18 + (2+5) = 25

Interesting your connections with historical investigations and Chess. For some reason
the Arthur/Guinivere/Mordred legend seems to stick out to me. Perhaps you will discover
more on it. Here is my quick thoughts:

There are a couple other words that come to mind: Merlyn, Excaliber, Lady of the Lake

"Merlyn" = 33
"Excaliber" = 43

"Jesus Christ" = 43
"Lady of the Lake" = 53

Notice that 33 + 10 = 43 and 43 + 10 = 53 , the 10th Mayan glyph is OC also known
as White Dog - relating to  Sirius, the Dog Star?  The mayans have glyphs for Dog&Star
called OC and LAMAT.   OC relates to Mercury (Thoth,Hermes) and LAMAT relates to planet
Venus (Isis,Danu). Since my spirit name "Foton Fonon" = 53 I guess I am guided by "Lady of the Lake"
and 53 = 5+3 = 8 ... the 8th Mayan glyph is LAMAT.

(DOG + STAR)  = (OC + LAMAT) = (10 + 8) = 18 = "LOVE"

"CHESS" also = 18

"Georgia Jan Mark" = 130 (26 numerology)
Kin 130 in the sacred Mayan Tzolkin is "13 OC" or "White Cosmic DOG"


Jan Newton - 05:07pm Jun 9, 1999 MST (#971 of 995)

Mark, can you send a copy of the 966 graphic to Terpsichore?

I have run the numbers of Arthur, Mordred, Guinivere, and Lancelot (there are various spellings of her name; I used the one posted here).

Arthur = 25 (7);

Mordred = 41 (5);

Guinivere = 55 = 10 - look - the Alpha & Omega!

Lancelot = 28 = 10 - the Alpha & Omega again!

According to Rester's materials, Lancelot is a later Norman French introduction into the eternal triangle legend of Arthur and Guinivere. He postulates that when the Tuatha de Danaan fled England for Normandy during some of the Saxon invasions, there was a split in the threads of the legends between those Danaans who stayed behind and those who returned to the European mainland, not to return until the Norman invasion in 1066 CE. The Danaans who became the French Normans, with their emphasis on chilvary and "courtly love", would have preferred a handsome and self-sacrificing Lancelot to the darkly handsome and frankly darkly and sinister tones of Guinivere's relationship with Mordred - in some versions of the legend Mordred is Arthur's own son! Eek! So, the numbers are very interesting.

Mark, are there any Mayan legends that you are aware of involving an eternal triangle? Inquiring minds want to know!


Mark Borcherding - 05:55am Jun 10, 1999 MST (#972 of 995)
dare to dream upon your own star

Jan ... there are several legends in Mayan system that involve 3 the one I have mentioned the Two Hero Twins and their father Corn God. There are the 3 Stones which symbolize birth of solar system and maybe the galaxy alot of people believe these 3 stones are the 3 stars in the belt of Orion constellation.
There is also a 3 related in their drawings with person, water-lily, and a catfish. The water-lily is the 1st mayan glyph IMIX or Dragon and carries power of Birth. In one of the Hero Twins stories they are killed and resurrect as catfish.

"Imix" = 28
"Dragon" = 32

Note the solar glyph "Imix" relates to the planet "Neptune" = 32

This is interesting because Imix relates to the 28 day cycle which is the cycle of the Moon (Goddess). 32 relates to 1/2 of the Chessboard. When we add 28+32=60 and 60 and there is only one mayan glyph where if you have 3 of them equals 60 that glyph is AHAU (20) note there are 20 mayan solar glyphs in their system and 13 tones so each day has a tone&glyph. Thus the AHAU "Sun" glyph symbolically
represents the whole solar system.

The name for our sun is "Kinich Ahau" = 49 and it is said our Sun will sing the lost chord the "magic fifth". What color is in the fifth position of the medicine wheel? What chakra does this color represent? What planet has orbit 3 ?


Don McLean - 08:24am Jun 10, 1999 MST (#973 of 995)

Looking for the Dark Isle...

Have been checking through some archeological sites pertaining to centers of Godess culture and worship on Malta and Crete. Have also focused on the Western Isles of Scotland. Island culture of any kind may hold a few clues due to the insularity of these respective places. Santorini as well as the Northern Greek Archepelago are also some prospective hot spots although I would not discount Madagascar.

The odd thing about Maltese archeological findings is the proliferation of ancient art and architecture dating back some 6000 years - temples to the Goddess which bear more than passing resemblance to Stonehenge, and artifacts that have a decidedly Celtic flavour to them. Spirals abound both in Maltese and Minoan art. It is important to understand that in Minoan culture (possibly Maltese as well) art assumed a decidedly spiritual or religious context.

Noteworthy as well, was the mention of the sudden dismantling of peaceable Goddess worship at around 3,500 B.C. This appears to be a watershed date. Archeologists do more than speculate that the fate of the Goddess culture could not withstand the onslaught of more warlike conventions which arose on mainland Europe during that period. There may have been a significant diaspora which, presumably took flight to more remote places such as Ireland and Scotland. This might explain the migration of myths. For instance, on one Celtic site, I came across a derivative legend that was undoubtedly a recasting of the Perseus / Medusa tale.

It is said that his/herstory reveals only what time itself does not destroy. In keeping with this theme, I recently came across a shard (one tiny little shard!) of the Gallilean glass maker's craft - circa 1 A.D. It was, in fact, a Persian "gaming piece". One of only a very few that have been found to date. That is to say that the Goddess game of chess could be hiding in archeological media that would have some difficulty surviving the ravages of time. Wood, glass, leather and other seemingly insignificant items could harbour a secret that may resist the penchant for "hard evidence".

Also, the symbol of the Maltese Cross conjures notions of Templar influence. I'll keep digging. After all, that's how the Templar's got their start. The origins of this order are quite unusual. Apparently the original group of seven knights were not warriors in the usual sense. From what I gather, they were actually our first archelologists and chose Jerusalem as their favoured location. It has been speculated that beneath certain prominent buildings of that Crusades era city, there existed a vast quantity of rare Egyptian as well as early Hebrew artifacts which served as "templates" for future Templar architectural undertakings, such as the palatial St. Michael, situated somewhere along on the coast of France .

Their history is very rich, and shows greater allegiance to the Black Madonna than it does to any nationalistic creed. In fact, it can be said with some accuracy that they composed the first "multi-national" corporation known to man. I would esteem that the Templars, with their notions of piety and chivilry (or a group similar to them) had a direct hand in the development of the chessboard at some point in the game. They were definitely enamoured of the checkerboard floor designs for their castles and churches and no doubt had the mystical/mythical/spiritual wherewithall to transform a form of "logos" into symbolic representation of all sizes and shapes.

Did any one catch Linda Morton Howe (?) on Art's show last night. Verrry interesting. Crop circles in Illinois have just appeared in the shape of Kaballistic symbols. (more Templar - templates) This is apparently a repeat performance. Last year a minorah was cut into crops at approximately the same location. What is Hermes and/or the Goddess up to? I won't go into what a little Dutch boy saw taking place in his back yard a couple of nights ago...but it would appear as though "someone" is roving about dropping hints all over the place.


Mark Borcherding - 09:39am Jun 10, 1999 MST (#974 of 995)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Don ... I think your are right on track with the migration of the belief systems that included the importance of the Goddess. Too bad the problem followed them. The 3500 BC date is interesting in that the current Mayan calendar cycle runs from 3113BC to 2012AD. The Mayans recorded much on pottery because is was circular and represented cycles in a more realistic way than a painting. So I second your thought that many artifacts which our "modern" scientists may overlook their importance.


Interesting that the Templars associated with the "Black Madonna" and in Catholics Mary is always "White". It has also be percieved the Templars were trying to merge the Black and White just as on the Chessboard. Perhaps this is why they were so persecuted. Maybe they were "healers" and as most of the healers in Europe were persecuted as witches by the Church and others.

"Templars" = 32 -- so if they were both black + white we would have 32 + 32 = 64

32 = 3+2 = 5 -- the 5th chakra or 5th position of medicine wheel "Center"

"Templars" + "5th" = 37 = "Black Madonna"

The word "Cross" = 20 , recall this number in the last few posts. Hmmm...

C R O S S
C H E S S

This is interesting notice the letters different between Cross and Chess form the word "HERO" recall we have been talking about the mayan Hero twins and their father the Corn God also the Sun God (Ahau) which is 20th glyph.


Corn is Yellow and Green and is symbolized in the South (yellow) and the Center (green)of the mayan madala or medicine wheel.

"Earth Cross" = 45
"Heart Cross" = 45 -- 4 + 5 = 9 the number of perfection or completion

Notice that South yellow is the 4th direction and the Center green is the 5th.


Georgia Albert - 06:33pm Jun 10, 1999 MST (#975 of 995)

DeLion, funny how things happen. I was listening to Linda Howe on the Art Bell show last night and reading a book about the Cabala, when my ears perked up and the next thing I knew, they were talking about the crop circle in the shape of The Tree of Life. On the very page I had just read was a picture of The Tree of Life, I was looking directly at it, I all most fell off the bed. Now you mention the crop circles and the Cabala on the Weave. Cool. Goddess magix at work.

LOVE

G


Doralee Ferona - 08:56pm Jun 10, 1999 MST (#976 of 995)
"The Hum"

Hello All,

Just dropped in to let you know that I am still following the conversation. I am still interested in all the posts. I just don't have anything to add!


Mark Borcherding - 05:41am Jun 11, 1999 MST (#977 of 995)
dare to dream upon your own star

Georgia's message on Kabala triggered me to think of the "cosmic tree" and then I thought of doing numerology on the words for the last kin of the Mayan calendar "4 Ahau" or in word:

(9 numerology) "Four Ahau" = 37 = "Black Madonna"

(26 numerology) "Four Ahau" = 91

the sum of the 13 Mayan tones 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13 = 91

On a personal note this makes a strong connection to me since my father was
born in the year 19 37 on "4 Ahau". 

These numbers 37 and 91 seem to be connecting matter symbolized by the base
harmonic hydrogen (37) and all of the music made by the 13 tones (91).

Now how does our Chess number 64 fit into the picture?

64 + 27 = 91
37 + 27 = 64

Looks like 27 is a "key" number. This number 27 is symbolic of Light.

9+9+9 = 27 -- 999 "Trinity of Light"

27 = 2+7 = 9 -- or in Mayan glyphs --IK 2 + Man'IK 7= Muluc 9

        IK is the solar glyph for planet Uranus
Man'IK is the solar glyph for planet Earth
Muluc is the Moon glyph for planet Mercury (Thoth, Horus)

Here is what 27 looks like in mayan dot-bar math symbols:

         O

     O     O
     =====


Jan Newton - 10:13am Jun 11, 1999 MST (#978 of 995)

Mark, what date will the last kin (4 Ahau) fall on in 2012?


Mark Borcherding - 10:45am Jun 11, 1999 MST (#979 of 995)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Jan using the Quiche Maya daycount "4 Ahau" will be December 21, 2012 AD.
Written in mayan daycount style Dec 12, 2012 is 13.0.0.0.0

The maya daycount has 5 numbers going from left to right they are:

     Baktun     .       Katun       .       Tun       .       Vinal      .      Kin
144,000 days      7,200 days         360 days          20 days        1 day
 


Don McLean - 10:57am Jun 11, 1999 MST (#980 of 995)

Hi Jan

I hope you don't mind my repro of this - but it's a real can of spinach that I think is worthy of sharing...

From Jan: **** "Here is some information for you on Albion, from Graves' "The White Goddess" (p. 67):  The fifty Danaids appear in early British history.  John Milton in his Early Britain scoffs ponderously at the legend preserved by Nennius that Britain derives its earliest name, Albion, by which it was known to Pliny, from Albina ('the White Goddess'), the eldest of the Danaids.  The name Albina, a form of which was also given to the River Elbe (Albis in Latin); and which accounts for the Germanic words elven, an elf-woman, alb, elf and alpdrucken, the nightmare or incubus, is connected with the Greek word alphos, meaning "dull-white leprosy [fn]' (Latin albus), alphiton, 'pearl-barley', and Alphito, 'the White Goddess', who in Classical times had degenerated into a nursery bugbear but who seems originally to have been the Danaan Barley-goddess of Argos. 

Sir james Frazer regards her as 'either Demeter or her double, Persephone'.  The word 'Argos' itself means 'shimmering white', and is the conventional adjective to describe white priestly vestments.  It also means 'quick as a flash.' That we are justified in connecting the hundred-armed men with the White Goddess of Argos is proved by the myth of Io, the same goddess, nurse to the infant Dionysus, who was guarded by Argus Panoptes ('all-eyes'), the hundred-eyed monster, probably represented as a white dog; Argo was the name of Odysseus's famous dog.  Io was the white cow aspect of the Goddess as Barley-goddess. She was also worshipped as a white mare, Leucippe, and as a white sow, Choere or Phorcis, whose more polite title was Marpessa, 'the snatcher'.   FN:  The White Hill, or Tower Hill, at London preserves Albina's memory, the Keep built in 1078 by Bishop Gundulf being still called the White Tower.  Herman Melville in his Moby Dick devotes an eloquent chapter to a consideration of the contradictory emotions aroused by the word 'white' - the grace, splendour and purity of milk-white steeds, white sacrificial bulls, snowy bridal veils and white priestly vestments, as opposed to the nameless horror aroused by albinos, lepers, visitants in white hoods and so forth - and records that the blood of American visitors to Tower Hill is far more readily chilled by 'This is the White Towre', than by 'This is the Bloody Tower'.  Moby Dick was an albino whale.

Jan - I must say that after reading your information on Graves' interpretation of Albion, I am quite convinced that force of nature which gives rise to so many shape shifting identities is none other than our Lakota friend, Yummani. I believe also that my encounter with this pearly white entity was an encounter with the same spirit that would, "quick as a flash", spin "many armed" (spiral) geometric shapes in the "barley", create fairy rings and fairy legends, or cast herself in the sheparding role as a "white dog" while "snatching" up the unwary soul. As for John Milton - I think the poem "On His Blindness" is self-explanatory.

We see in Milton, Chaucer and others, progressive stages of a cultural attempt to distance the Christianity of the day from irrational the immaterial and the irrelevant. They were the Hamilton Bergers of their time. Odd that a man by the name of Perry MASON would serve him up on a bun each T.V. week back in the '60's...

In any case, once the Templar's recognized the significance of their Goddess, they may have attempted to cloak her in a more sombre aspect - a la Black Madonna. It was also during this period leading up to and following the Crusades that the Queen on the chessboard acquired her considerable power - was it not? My assumption here is that the Queen's acquisition of greater prominence on the chessboard was a deliberate attempt by the Templar's (or ?- Godess sympathizers) to promote the Goddess to more appropriate heights and to make this symbolic act public - more widespread in popular consciousness through the medium (media) of chess. It was a way of conveying a purposeful message. How they came about this knowledge is anyone's guess - although the strands of Essene and Gnostic doctrines could have been just as easily hidden in ancient Jerusalem, the Egytpian pyramids, or the library at Alexandria.

The White Goddess and the Black Madonna may have, in the Templar lexicon, symbolized the opposing forces inherent in the creative whole. In effect they were one and the same. With this notion comes a whole ship load of metaphysical and transformative concepts - options that are quite evident on the white and black chess squares of the board itself. In effect, the white squares are, in my opinion, the manifest and the material - the visible light which emanates - or is visible - only through contrast with the darkness. On the chessboard, this void can be viewed as synonymous with the concept of "Dark Matter" - the "invisible" bulk of the cosmos that has come down to us in recent physics. The dark square may also propose a "hidden dimension" a "dark isle" that is of no specific geographic location - but once again serves as metaphor for something entirely more profound and all pervasive - that being the unseen, the immaterial and the now very relevant 4th dimension - the topos and locus of the Gods...of Quantum Math and Consciousness - the meta-level towards which we strive for the attainment of a fulfilled eXperience and self-knowledge.

It is not too difficult to trace the Templar's spiritualist disposition to Gnostc roots - and thence to Jung.

"Jungian Psychology, to some, offers a dualistic structure to the human experience: the animus and the anima, the persona and the shadow. Likewise, Gnostic thought to some is equally dualistic in its theo-psychological expositions. Both Jung and the Gnostics taught in metaphor, recognizing that human beings learn first and foremost through metaphor and allegory."

Unfortunately, the Trinity as it appears in various forms of Christian dogma makes it difficult to break the simple binary code for, in showing the OUTCOME of dialectic in the "third" it thereby renders the individual's role in arriving at this mystical third confused and inoperative by portraying it as a deja vu - a fait accompli - a moot point - a thing to be beheld by faith alone! As such, the importantly experiental and tranformative praxis, whereby dualism/duality seeks to fuse in some successive stage of mutual encounter (a yin-yang Fibronacci quest of the first order - a Godelian search for the grail of self) is hidden behind the veneer of doctrine. Whether deliberate or otherwise, this amounts to a clever sleight of hand in the sense that it shows the outcome and thereby diffuses the need for the individual to attempt a personal search. Thus, it also has everything to do with the opposition the Templar's and Gnostics proposed in their positing of a "certainty" over "faith" and their desire for active participation in the divine mysteries of redemption and salvation as opposed to peaceful acquiescence in the threatening face of churchly dogma and dispensation. The seemingly innocent and secular game of chess as it evolved throughout the Dark and Middle Ages was a bequethal of sorts, one that sought to expose the fraud of church-state collusion by offering two royal regiments as symbolic evidence that even those whose elevated status (bishops included) placed them well beyond the common law could not escape the binding weave of the board, the rules of the game and the transformative power of the Goddess concealed therein. This furthmore underlines the Gnostic notion that the thone of incremental (spiralling) wisdom (Sophia) is inextricable from the fixed thone of redemption in the body of Christ and the Unity which gives rise to both. Each is both.

Now, in gathering up the shards of facts and fragments that point to something that grows increasingly obvious in our time, it seems fitting that we turn not to the first, second, third or fourth estates for our answers - but to the fifth. The power of information casts its winged shadow upon the board of life and creates the conditions for a transformative assembly of renewed vigour and meaning. It is this notion of "in-form-a-tion" in all its self-transcendant glory that makes chess, the goddess and the heart as central to our purpose as the healing winds which spiral outward from the center of medicine wheel, the galaxy and the universe. Such things cannot remain long hidden.

We talk of 3 D chess - for that is the outer extent of all we know and can conceive in a practical and material sense. However, evidence continues to mount that the real game is being played out on a higher plane. We may find that a greater number of dimensions exist beyond the fourth - and yet - it is this fourth that, for all intents and purposes, hides while we seek. It is through this fourth that emenations, revelations and messages must pass in order to gain our attention. It is because of the fourth's proximity to the third that we anticipate and at times hear, see and feel the echoed stirrings in our hearts. As inseparable from creation as we are, it should not be otherwise. Even as we may look upon the work of elves, and the messages they plant in fields of barley as being no less than the work of a God/Goddess who delights in placing symbolic pieces where we may find them - so the game of heart and soul and consciousness unfolds upon a demonstrative planet. The more we seek for a dispassionate view and the closer we come to attaining it - the more such things will become increasingly evident and unavoidable.


Mark Borcherding - 11:35am Jun 11, 1999 MST (#981 of 995)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Don ... thanks for all that info it was well connected and here is my thoughts as to the White and the Black:

BLACK WHITE
Receive Give
Accept All Radiate All
Absorb Reflect

But we for some reason really connect to the "Trinity" so if we have BLACK and WHITE what is 3rd?

The first thing that popped into my head is "RAINBOW"
Well I can't resist "Rainbow" = 37 -- "Black Madonna"

Interesting! ... we have 7 chakra colors that create a Human Rainbow between Black and White.

  ROOT SPLEEN PLEXUS HEART THROAT 3RDEYE CROWN  

Now since energy flows both ways "Receiving" and "Giving" which can also be called (Yin and Yang) or
(Female and Male) or (Inhale and Exhale).  Then our Human chakra system forms a  "rainbow Bridge"
between Space/black and Light/white. Notice that our Bridge is the center and the center of our center
is "Heart". No wonder we love to color with crayons, looking at rainbows, and falling in Love.

"The Heart color Green rhymes with Queen"


Don McLean - 12:44pm Jun 11, 1999 MST (#982 of 995)

Hi Mark

I always enjoy your ability to apply concise analogies to my clutter. These things really do have a mathematical simplicity to them.

As for the "missing" third - yes, I have heard it spoken of as a rainbow bridge. As to why it is difficult to approach on an intellectual level (without running into an essay) my assumption is that the "third" embodies both the process and the product of a transformative reality that takes place on a higher footing. My eXperience with it has been that "Sophia" emerges afterward and if we so desire, we can walk with her along successive cycles of discernment. Quite an eternal bridge actually.


Jan Newton - 05:20pm Jun 11, 1999 MST (#983 of 995)

deLion, I will address your post after I have had a chance to frame a cogent reply.

Mark, I note with pleasure (I had a feeling the date of 4 Ahau would be significant), December 21 is the date of the Winter Solstice and also encompasses the start of the ancient celebration of Saturnalia. Who better to preside over such auspicious occasions than the Black Madonna, nominally the "Virgin Mary" but in reality a most ancient representation of the Mother Goddess.


Ron Adams - 11:37pm Jun 11, 1999 MST (#984 of 995)
"I'm the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life."

Hi Gang, guess who? Mark I like your post, Ref: #980. My partner Eric was just talking tonight about including black and white in the rainbow, to show unity. I am back.


Mark Borcherding - 08:35am Jun 12, 1999 MST (#985 of 995)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Ron ... welcome back!!!
I know the people living in the civilizations in the time wormhole you entered will really
miss you. But it is our gain : )   Neat you like the Black & White and the Rainbow
I just sent you an email and it also talks of this of course inspired by your email to me.
I think everyone here would enjoy this ... so here it is:

Ron,

I think your email was great with many wonderful points!!!

        Budda .... MIND
        Christ ... LOVE
        Muhhamed . WILL

As Crowley said "Do wilt that Will ... is the Whole of the Law"

I thought of using your idea to explore several chakra systems
and see how well it fits with the three messengers and their
teachings as well as your kinich ahau observation. Notice how ALL
these systems relate to each other. Also note that "LOVE" is always
in the center.

1. Mayan 5 chakra/holon system

        Crown .......... love
        Throat.......... MIND
        Heart........... LOVE
        Solar Plexus.... WILL
        Root(sex) ...... love

2. Standard 7 chakra system

        Crown .......... love
        3rd Eye ........ will
        Throat ......... MIND
        Heart .......... LOVE
        Solar Plexus ... WILL
        Spleen ......... mind
        Sex ............ love

3. 9 chakra system where we add the "As Above ... So Below"

        WHITE .......... mind (WHITE,Yang,Male,Sun,Exhale,Radiate-All,ABOVE)
        Crown .......... love
        3rd Eye ........ will
        Throat ......... MIND
        Heart .......... LOVE
        Solar Plexus ... WILL
        Spleen ......... mind
        Sex ............ love
        BLACK .......... will (BLACK,Yin,Female,Moon,Inhale,Accept-All,BELOW)

I notice that WILL is by 3rd Eye, Solar Plexus and Black. Black
is the "So Below" and look at the characteristics beside Black like Female and Moon and acceptance of All. This seems to fit very well with all you have said Ron. Interesting that we see in every chakra system that "LOVE" bridges the "MIND" and the "WILL". This makes sense for LOVE assists the MIND so that the WILL is in Balance with All.

We see the 9 chakra system that the "Human Rainbow Chakra" forms the bridge of many colors between the WHITE & BLACK "Above & Below". Each and every Human is a "Rainbow Angel" that is capable of:

"Radiating to All the Acceptance of All" -and- "Accepting from All the Radiance of All"


Don McLean - 09:53am Jun 12, 1999 MST (#986 of 995)

Mark

Just looking at your rainbow graph and wondering where I'd seen something like that before... As I recall, the "Bardo" is depicted in successive, perhaps prismatic colourization. At end of the spectrum we have flawless white whereas the other is blackest black - so black that it shines reflectively.

The Bardo has much to do with the afterlife and so, I would assume, a viable connection exists between the chakras and the Tibetian concept of the Bardo plane. Just a random thought.


Jan Newton - 09:47pm Jun 12, 1999 MST (#987 of 995)

Greetings, Ron! Welcome back, darling! To both you and Mark, while not taking the time to do research on this, I believe "black" represents "no color" (in the words of our astronomers, a 'black hole', which would suck in all light); and "white" represents all colors, i.e., all colors are inherent within 'white'. While Black and White may seem "opposites" of the color spectrum, within the context of the Great Monad (Circle), "black" and "white" harmoniously blend together in that area known, poetically, as "The Dark Isle" - just imagine a color circle and you have all of creation right in front of you!


Don McLean - 11:29pm Jun 12, 1999 MST (#988 of 995)

Some interesting colour phenomenon on Linda Moulton Howe's site:

http://earthfiles.com/earth038.html

The 06/09/99 article about the Dutch boy's crop circle sighting is an entertaining clue to sidhe cyphers. Multi-media from the fourth dimension. Light and sound also figure into the message - as does a fair quantity of love.


Don McLean - 11:58pm Jun 12, 1999 MST (#989 of 995)

Jan, Mark and Ron,

Stubborn fellow that I am, I must stand firm on the non-colour black. Black is typically thought of as being the shade that absorbs - and yet it can also be perceived as a reflective surface. White may be thoroughly reflective, although it's ability to absorb is questionable IMHO.

Black denotes the presence of all colours - white the absence. Although symbolically appropriate in the sense of denoting a dialectical principle, I sense there is something fishy about using general colour theory to access the depths of the human psyche. There seems to be something "additive" hidden in the shiny black. Maybe we need a special theory of colour reletivity to get us over that connundrum? Jung's theory of the "Shadow" may provide a clue.


Mark Borcherding - 07:37am Jun 13, 1999 MST (#990 of 995)
dare to dream upon your own star

Well perhaps our Chess board holds an answer about black and white. Notice it is made out of squares and the board itself is a square. This brings to mind 90 degree angle. How does white and black relate in 90 degrees?

How about 180 degrees since we have 2 items and 2 x 90 = 180.

If Light was traveling 180 degrees away perhaps it would look black and light traveling toward you would look white.

Well might as well go for the circle 4x90 = 360

One thing that pops into my head is that our Milky Way galaxy has 4 spiral arms 2 White and 2 Black. 2x90 + 2x90 = 360

"Milky Way galaxy" = 63 -- also called our Galactic Mother "Galactic Mother" = 63

Notice that 63 is mirrored in our 360 degrees of the circle and that 6+3 = 9 = 3+6+0   if we start counting at 0 zero then there are 63 squares on the Chessboard a connection between Chess and the
Galactic Goddess?


Don McLean - 01:05pm Jun 13, 1999 MST (#991 of 995)

Dark Isle - Black Madonna - Bardos Kosas Chakras and Nadis?

'Dark Matter' -- The Physical Basis for Mysticism" ©Deno Kazanis, Ph.D., 1997

The entire essay (one of my favourite) can be found at:

http://www.enemies.com/index2.html

Here are a few excerpts.

Although the concepts of subtle matters and subtle bodies have been dismissed and ignored by scientists, mystics have persisted in this knowledge. Against this background we now have the recent scientific discovery of "dark matter" in the universe.

"Dark matter" is not a rare or insignificant ingredient, but makes up at least 90% of the mass in the universe.

Quantum mechanics showed that not only do we see objectsbecause of electrical charge (and not because of the properties of mass) but we can hold and feel objects because of the properties of charge (and not because of the properties of mass).

Presently, scientists with highly sophisticated instruments have explored distant galaxies, and have discovered and verified the existence of "dark matter". The detection of "dark matter" has to be made indirectly, through the observation of its gravitational effect. Because it has mass, "dark matter" can exert a gravitational pull on visible matter. So, looking into outer space with our most sophisticated instruments we can observe gravitational influences on distant stars, gas clouds, nebulae, galaxies and other celestial phenomena, but we cannot see the matter which produces the influences. As was stated in a Smithsonian review article, "Today, we understand that what we normally think of as the 'galaxy' -- the pinwheel of stars -- is in fact only a part of the entire structure. It is surrounded by, and immersed in, a globe of unseen dark matter that makes up at least 90 percent of its mass. The real story of the Universe, it seems, is in its dark matter.

"Dark matter" at this time can refer to any matter which is not readily detectable by ordinary astronomical observation, yet can produce a gravitational interaction. As mentioned, there are two broad categories for the explanation of "dark matter". It can be burnt out stars -- white dwarfs or black holes, or, more relevant to this paper, it can be matter which is not composed of electrically charged particles. This simple property makes this matter invisible to our normal vision, and also would give "dark matter" the ability to interpenetrate with visible matter, i.e., it could pass right through visible matter. Although the existence of uncharged particles is not new, the discovery of "dark matter" seems different from what is known to date in that it makes up at least 90% of the universe, and is apparently stable. This huge mass of stable matter possibly void of charged particles presents a universe very different from that envisioned by scientists just a few years ago, and suggests something very new (or perhaps very old). The property of "interpenetrability" of this type of "dark matter" with visible matter strikes a cord with the subtle matter of the mystical traditions."

The chess board and the Milky Way - the light and the dark of all things bright and beautiful - all visible forms of matter - appear to be set upon the dusky tableau of dark matter. But even this anaolgy is simplistic. Like so many jewels in a crown, perhaps the allegorical crown of the Black Madonna - or - like so many mystical islands in a vaster stream, the phenomenal world appears to hang suspended - interacting with dark matter to produce the complexities of form and emptiness we approach with mystical, mathematical and symbolic intelligence...


Jan Newton - 02:49pm Jun 13, 1999 MST (#992 of 995)

Yes, deLion, yes! The Game represents so many facets of what is both seen and unseen; I do believe it is currently beyond our limited human scope to totally comprehend what The Game encompasses! We stand on our collective tippy toes and reach with all of our might skyward, straining, trying to touch with the last microns of our fingernails the truth that resides just beyond our vision, just beyond that last micron of the longest fingernail, in "the heavens".

Most frustrating!

But to reach - to stretch ever upward - is a goal, in and of itself! To be Aware, perhaps, is the most important aspect of The Game.

In "9" numerology, "black" equals 11, or 1+1; a 2. "White" equals 27, or 2+7; a 9. Black represents the "Dyad", the first creative aspect of the Monad; "white" represents the "Monad"; the "9", that which is completion and perfection; from which all creativity springs forth. Black is a creation of white; indeed, without Black, White would have no ultimate, true meaning! In other words, the existence of one, without the other, is meaningless. We must therefore conclude that to impart meaning, one must have a symbiosis of black and white.

It is the same within and without the universe. What may seem "chaos" must always give rise to "order" and "harmony"; and the opposites are forever linked together.

I heard a commentator on the radio this morning say that Russia's moving 300 troups into Kosovo was a "knight's move", jumping over the NATO positions! The Game, in all of its myriad, countless and unfathomable levels, continues.


Georgia Albert - 05:24pm Jun 13, 1999 MST (#993 of 995)

Ron, your have returned, our brave mariner, what wonders have you brought with you? I am happy you have returned safely.

Ref. #987

Jan, your idea of a circluar rainbow is correct. If one was to view a rainbow from an airplane it would appear as a circle. When one views a rainbow from the ground one is only seeing a portion of the rainbow.

LOVE

G

May Manna Always be with You.


Don McLean - 07:18pm Jun 13, 1999 MST (#994 of 995)

Mark, You mentioned that:

"If Light was traveling 180 degrees away perhaps it would look black and light traveling toward you would look white."

Interesting concept that reminds me of "doppler shift" - except that according to physics, the light would be blue when retreating or red when approaching. Hmmm... I wonder if we can find chess pieces or boards of red and blue?


Mark Borcherding - 05:01am Jun 14, 1999 MST (#995 of 995)
dare to dream upon your own star

Don, perhaps the red and blue shift occurs at a slightly different angle than 90 degrees
or a multiple of 90. Also, we need to consider the whole spectrum not just what is visible
to the human eye.  Lets see what number tells us about red & blue:

"Red" = 18
"Blue" = 13

Notice when we put them together symbolically indicating shifting forwards and backwards
at the same time 18+13 = 31   we get a mirror 31 of  13="blue". We also see "red" = 18 = "chess".
These colors symbolize the "Sex/root" chakra and the "throat" chakra. Notice that actually all the
lower chakras are reddish and the upper chakras are blueish and in the center from which the
ABOVE and BELOW are connected is the Green Heart chakra. Green is also considered the center
of the medicine wheel by the Mayans.

"Green" = 31

"Red" + "Blue" = 31


Don McLean - 09:14pm Jun 14, 1999 MST (#996 of 1025)

Mark

Red is a passionate colour...highly appropriate when it comes to chess. Just wondering what happens numerologically when blue and yellow are combined to arrive at green. What kind of interplay results?


Mark Borcherding - 05:26am Jun 15, 1999 MST (#997 of 1025)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Don,  hmmmm... blue and yellow .. the solar plexus chakra is yellow and the throat chakra
is blue and between is the green heart chakra leading us to the Goddess. Let us see what Don's
seed will grow into:

"Blue" = 13
"Yellow" = 29

"Blue" + "Yellow" = 42

In mayan numeric symbol 42 is written like this:

O   O                  the 2 upper dots are 20 + 20 = 40

O   O                  the 2 lower dots are   1 + n  1 =  2

There is a mayan glyph which has these 4 dots arranged in the glyph symbol
just like the dots for 42 and guess what planet this glyph symbolizes?
Give you a clue "Goddess of Love".
 
O | O
--+--
O | O

Lamat glyph - related to planet Venus and its partner glyph is Chuen Lamat is also called yellow "Star" and Chuen is called blue "Monkey".

"Star" = 13
"Monkey" = 29

"Star" + "Monkey" = 42 and "Blue" + "Yellow" = 42

The Star is the 8th glyph and the Monkey is the 13th glyph. The Star and Monkey glyphs represent the planet Venus and carry the powers of Art and Magic.

H-uman E-arth ART MAGIC

"Green" = 31
"Love" = 18
"Heart Magic" = 49 = "Green" + "Love"

The yellow Star glyph is also called "The Shield of Arcturus" and the Arcturians are mentioned by American Physic Edgar Cayce as being the masters of Love.

"Arcturus" = 31

Notice in number the words Arcturus 31 and Star 13 are mirrors of each other. Also when combined Arcturus & Star 31&13 they form 3113 which is the start year of the mayan calendar 3113BC.


Mark Borcherding - 11:07am Jun 15, 1999 MST (#998 of 1025)
dare to dream upon your own star

 Ref last post.

"Arcturus" = 31
"Star" = 13

"Arcturus" + "Star" = 44

"Feldsparq" = 44

A clue for you all ... Feldsparq returned recently


Mark Borcherding - 11:16am Jun 15, 1999 MST (#999 of 1025)
dare to dream upon your own star


"Chess Goddess" = 46

46 mirrored is 64
 


Jan Newton - 06:02pm Jun 15, 1999 MST (#1000 of 1025)

"Goddesschess" would be 46, as well! "I love it when a plan comes together", to quote my main man from "The A-Team"! Alluding to some of the earlier posts:

I have today purchased a book on Enochian Chess and one on the Enochian magic system. Won't have time to read them right now, unfortunately, but I would like to point out that Enochian Chess is a four-handed game and its primary colors are red (fire), black (earth), blue (water) and yellow (air). There are your colors, Holmes and deLion. Combine these and see what you come up with!

It is interesting that Enochian Chess combines many levels into one game; it can be played as a pure four-handed chess game; it can also be used for divinatory and magical purposes - up to many levels depending, as I am given to understand from my very brief perusals of the subject matter - upon the level of "adeptness" of the players. There are four different boards; the board one uses depends upon the "questions" one wishes to have answered. There are four sets of pieces, totalling 36 in all, thus a bit different from "goddess"chess. However, there is a corresponding similarity in the levels of play in these game cousins, inasmuch as there are multiple seen and "unseen" aspects to each of these versions of The Game. Enochian Chess would, from what I imperfectly thus far understand, take The Game to different levels by way of actually manipulating the Dark Matter that composes the greater portion of our known universe.


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