Lee Kyer - 06:23pm Jun 15, 1999 MST (#1001 of 1025)

Four-handed chess; wouldn't that be an interesting game. Sounds like fun.

 Jan,

"Enochian Chess" = 60  recall from earlier posts mayan glyph AHAU (sun) = 20
60 = 20+20+20

Look what happens when we add the 5th Goddess component to your lists:

"red black blue yellow" = 71 + "green" 31 = 102
"fire earth water air" = 95 + "heart" 25 = 120

102 + 120 = 222

Look at that connection: 20+20+20 and 222

Mark - Still absorbing your take on blue and yellow. I am green with envy over your facility with numbers :-) Now, 222 = 6, the number of a man...

Jan - Pi knows Enoch and John (007) Dee. Says he has placed him/herself at their disposal on a number of occasions. Claims they are part of a cool lineage - along with Newton, Caroll, Maxwell, Godel, Tesla, Reich, Einstien, Feynman, David Bohm, David Chalmers, Steven Hawking,...and the hits just keep on coming!

Looks like Charisma, Pi and the Hero Twins are setting up the old Enochan board and ready to give that four handed game a spin. I wonder what variation they will play? Personally, I don't think they are ready to concentrate, since all four are so totally excited at the prospect of divining the future from their game.

Lee - You bet! Four handed chess! Yummy! Social and fun - but perhaps more serious than we might at first suspect. It might be the future of the game - as well as its dim and distant past.

I guess that's just the way the old Fibronacci tumbles - on the chessboard, on the message board, in Dark Matter, in Las Vegas - and perhaps even in a few other forgotten places...

Ah! Pi has been in consort with Hypathia - who says the conquest of India as the mother of chess may be at hand. Fair Alexander will have his city rebuilt in spirit and with it, what was lost will come to light once again.

There is a mirror looking out upon the sea...atop octagonal walls... Alexander reaches out from the grave and prepares to castle. When he does, Hypathia will be whole again. When Hypathia is whole, then so shall it be for Alexander and the game of chess.

 Don, thanks for the compliment, I view numbers a crayons and just play with them
to see what they have to say.  Interesting about Hypathia and Alexander and the mirror
on octagonal walls. The pyramids when you use the phrase "As Above ... so Below" would
be octagons. Thus the capstones of the above and below would mirror each other.

"Alexander" = 39
"Hypathia" = 43 -- "Jesus Christ" = 43

Now using that Don mentioned on the numbers:

39+93 + 43+34 = 209

Kin 209 in the mayan Tzolkin is the enterance into the "Green Castle of Enchantment" note is is green the color of the Heart chakra (goddess energy) and this is the fifth (last) Castle. Each castle has 52 days and  52 x 5 = 260 which is the number of Kin in the mayan Tzolkin. 365 days = 260 kin = 105 the planet V e n u s cycle and 1+0+5 = 2+2+2 = 6

"V e n u s" + "E a r t h" = 43

"C h e s s" + "E a r t h" = 43
 

V	isualize	E	very
E	arth	A	ngel
N	ewborn	R	ising
U	niversal	T	o
S	pirit	H	eaven

I found this cool information about Diana in Llewellyn's 1990 Magickal Almanac by Charles Godfrey Leland.

"Diana was the first created before all creation; in her were all things; out of herself, the first darkness, she divided herself; into darkness and light she was divided. Lucifer, her brother and her son, herself and her other half, was the light.

"And when Diana saw the light was so beautiful, the light which was her other half, her brother Lucifer, she yearned for it with exceeding great desire. Wishing to receive the light again into her darkness, to swallow it up in rapture, in delight, she trembled with desire. This desire was the Dawn.

"But Lucifer, the light, fled from her, and would not yield to her wishes; he was the light which flies into the most distant parts of heaven, the mouse which flies before the cat.

"Then Diana went to the fathers of the Beginning, to the mothers, the spirits who were before the first spirit, and lamented unto them that she could not prevail with Lucifer. And they praised her for her courage; they told her that to rise she must fall; to become the chief of goddesses she must become a mortal.

"And in the ages, in the course of time, when the world was made, Diana went on Earth, as did Lucifer, who had fallen, and Diana taught magic, whence came witches and fairies and goblins--all that is like man yet not mortal.

" And it came thus that Diana took the form of a cat. Her brother had a cat whom he loved beyond all creatures, and it slept every night on his bed, a cat beautiful beyond all other creatures, a fairy: he did not know it.

"Diana prevailed with the cat to change forms with her; so she lay with her brother, and in the darkness assumed her own form, and so by Lucifer became the mother of Aradia. But when in the morning he found that he lay by his sister, and that light had been conquered by darkness, Lucifer was extrememly angry; but Diana sang to him a spell, a song of power, and he was silent, the song of the night which soothes to sleep; he could say nothing. So Diana with her wiles of Witchcraft so charmed him that he yielded to her love. This was the first fascination ; she hummed the song it was as the buzzing of bees, a spinningwheel spinning life. She had such passion for witchcraft, and became so powerful there in, that her greatness could no be hidden.

"And thus it came to pass one night, at the meeting of all the sorceresses and fairies, she declared that she would darken the heavens and turn all the stars into mice.

"All those who were present said: '"If thou canst do such a strange thing, having risen to such power, thou shalt be our queen.'

Diana went into the street; she took the bladder of an ox and a piece of witch-money, which has an edge like a knife--with such money witches cut the earth from men's foot-tracks--and she cut the earth, and with it and many mice she filled the bladder, and blew into the bladder till it burst.

"And there came a great marvel, for the earth which was in the bladder became the round heaven above, and for three days there was a great rain; the mice became stars or rain. And having made the heaven and the stars and the rain, Diana became Queen of the Witches; she was the cat who ruled the star-mice, the heaven and the rain."

Commentary

Here a reflection occurs which is perhaps the most remarkable which all this Witch Evangel suggests. In all other scriptures of all other races, it is the male, Jehovah, Buddha, or Brahma, who creates the universe; in Witch Sorcery it is the female who is the primitive principle. Whenever in history there is a period of radical intellectual rebellion against long-established conservatism, hierarchy, and the like, there is always an effort to regard Woman as the fully equal, which means the superior sex. Thus in the extraordinary war of conflicting elements, strange schools of sorcery, Neo-Platonism, Cabala, Heretic Christianity, Gnosticism, Persian Magism and Dualism, with the remains of old Greek and Egyptian theologies in the third and fourth centuries at Alexandria, and in the House of Light of Cairo in the ninth, the Equality of Women was a prominent doctrine. It was Sophia or Helena, the enfranchised, who was then the true Christ who was to save mankind.

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.

 Georgia ... nice post #1005 it brings to mind to changes that crystals undergo where they change
from a male to female form and continue this cycle of change switching back and forth.
So it is the flow between the male and female that make the cycles.

"Male" + "Female" = 37

37 being symbolic of Hydrogen the base harmonic of Matter. Our Sun is a Hydrogen Star

"Hydrogen Star" = 64
"Chess Goddess" = 46

There are 64 Black and White chessboard squares the Black being symbolic of
dark matter 37 and Light symbolized by 27 and 37+27=64 also notice that
27 + (6+4) = 37. Without the (white & black), (matter & light), (female & male)
we do not have the "One" chessboard.

"May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You. " = 165
165 = 64 + 37 + 64

Georgia - (#1006) - an edutaining tale with a great punch line! It does seem as though there is a fundamental spilt in the assumptions we have about creation. The feminine seems somehow more in harmony with the way of the world whereas the partriarchal impulse is one of conquest and subjugation. It has been the bane of the planet that so many have laboured for so long under the mistaken assumption that the earth exists for conquest alone. With the passing of materialist, reductivist and mechanistic predominance in our male dominated science, perhaps we can only hope for a brighter, more conjointly balanced future.

Unfortunately, those for whom certain vested interests are at stake appear to have all the howtizers. I think that this too is a grand illusion which the Earth herself may bring to light. She is the mousetrap par excellance and at some point it will become increasingly difficult to sustain the trivial politic of conflict and oppression that has crept around the globe for so many generations. I do hold the impression that a very old cycle is currently in the process of repeating itself.

Don ... I think that the Male is just as harmonious as Female. Perhaps a disease struck and infected the masculine energy from which we see the side effects of the "partriarchal" problems. What is interesting is that if you use the same energy as the disease then it just grows bigger. But we have a natural built in protection in that each of us has both male & female like a Chessboard and we can combine our energies to create from within. This ability allows us to create our own perception of reality.

If my analogy of the partriarchal disease is correct then why do you suppose the male energy would be targeted?

In Chess the Queen has the most moves and thus is well suited to protect the King and of course pawns reaching the other side are transformed into Queens.

Yes Mark - there is no question that the male of the species is essentially as harmonious within as the female. I suppose that where and when aggression and the will to dominate sprang into the entire question - at what historical point - can be explained in various ways, with answers that number as many as there are cosmologies. In any case, the antidote will always be tranformation of an interior kind.

You are correct in assuming that any outer directed attempt to correct the general imbalance would only enact a form of aggression that is fundamentally in error. Why add fuel to this fire? It is finite and can only sustain itself for a limited time before a natural erosion trips the scale. Hopefully, however, we will not have to endure many more swings of the pendulum before everything levels off of its own accord.

Mark, re post 1006, "Male and Female" may equal 37 and reflect their parent, Hydrogen, one of the fundamental building blocks of the universe (note in passing 3+7=10=1+0, the Alpha and the Omega), but until "Machismo" is effectively done away with, the unbalanced Patriarchs will continue to rule in this present system of things. How much more havoc will they wreak? Only time will tell. Unfortunately, counterbalancing the Machismo with an equally strident and militant "Feminism" isn't the answer; discord and disdain are not the answer; already there are whispers of counter-rebellion to this strand of "Feminism" in the hills and vales of journalism (the "Radicals", and all other sorts of Feminists, are painted with the broadest possible brush, just as, when one whispers nowadays in American "Racist", all are so painted); just a few days past I read two separate articles, in two very different sources, that declaimed along the lines of "boys in our society are no longer getting a fair shake". Ah, yes! Indeed! Mourn the passing of the dominant male society. (Can I hear a Xena 'Ha!'?) HA!

So, what is the answer? There will be no ultimate balance - no final righting of our path on to the best, most favored, most accurate, ULTIMATE road - until the Goddess has been accepted for her true place in the Creation and in this world. But, if we cannot even get more than a few of the overwhelming tide of chess historians (who are mostly male) to accept our premise and acknowledge, at the very least, that the Goddess had some small impact on The Game, there is no hope for the larger "scope of the world", in general.

I have become of the opinion that, although commencing around 2700 BCE or thereabouts, the "Gods" started to do battle with the "Goddesses" for supremacy, the particular battle wasn't lost until the ascendancy of Muslim Fundamentalism approximately 100 years or so after chess was first introduced into the Muslim (then mostly Arabian) culture. At that point, if we accept the traditional timeline of the spread of chess into Europe as accurate, the Fundamentalists stamped out the last vestiges of the Goddess from the game, eliminating the (obviously feminine) breasts from the piece we today know as the "Bishop", and over the next few generations of chessplayers (women would have now been banned from playing the game, therefore, all the players in the Muslim world would have been men), within less than 100 years, the Goddess's influence was forgotten! THIS is the legacy that was, thus, passed on to Europe.

In the foregoing post I have used the most conservative measure of the timeline spread of chess into Europe, and not my own favored timeline! Note, also, that I say the battle was lost; I do not concede the war.

Jan, I have a feeling that our Weave will be passed over and ignored, deliberately. It is the same old game, do not recognize it and acknowledge it and it will go away. I will give you even money, none of our research will be published in a Chess magazine or be brought up at any offical Chess gatherings. I have a feeling the MiV have most of the publishing companies and media distributers in pocket, just watch some of the history progams they put on cable and publications, to me they are all slanted to support the MiV version of history. How about his/herstory for a change and start telling the WHOLE story.

The truth shall set you free.

LOVE

G

May Manna Always be with You.

 Georgia and Jan ... I believe the sweeping of the Goddess under the rug effects
both males and females. Remember within we all have both male and female
thus all of us benefit from Goddess energy. Our weave is already working its magic
thru our hearts and helping usher in the "Age of Aquarius". Remember the power is within.
The Goddess teaches us to use our Child-hearts.

Georgia the following numeric exploration using 9 numerology is dedicated to you!
each line has a number and all word phrases on that line share the same numeric value:

37 = "angel manna"         "yin manna"         "peace manna"    "saturn manna"  "below manna"

40 = "chakra manna"       "holy manna"       "magic manna"    "female manna"    "nine manna"

41 = "heart manna"          "earth manna"     "foton manna"     "galaxy manna"

42 = "madonna manna"   "terra manna"      "crystal manna"

43 = "child manna"           "ishaya manna"   "horus manna"       "world manna"

44 = "goddess manna"    "crown manna"    "heaven manna"   "number manna"   "fonon manna"

45 = "light manna"            "white manna"     "fire manna"

47 = "green manna"        "arcturus manna"  "emerald manna"

53 = "rainbow manna"    "male female manna"   "spirit manna"  "lovesong manna"  "sphinx's manna"

"May Manna Always be with You." = 93
"Mark Alan Borcherding" = 93

Oh, Holmes! You are SUCH a romantic! In the best sense of the word, darling!

Yes, it is true that we are each comprised of "male" and "female" elements. However, I suggest that the greater majority of men in the world today have lost touch with their "feminine" aspect; be that as it may, that does not necessarily lead to "inbalance" per se; what leads to the type of imbalance we are now, and have experienced in the world on an increasingly noticeable scale since approximately 850 CE (give or take a hundred years), is the deliberate STAMPING OUT of every single feminine quality, the deliberate STAMPING OUT of everything that may even "suggest" a feminine quality - eek! - The Great Male God Forbid! - so that many, many, many of today's men don't have a clue when it comes to their own bipartite nature! The Western World, particularly our own good ol' USA, has exulted in the glorification of violence and gore and mayhem, as expressions of male machismo. Women are "'ho's" and words that I won't even bother to post here - but we've all heard them! THAT is why we are now where we are as a World.

I don't intend to get into a "war of the sexes" here, LOL! Merely to point out a few home truths. However, I have faith that balance shall yet, again, prevail. The last piece we know about who formerly represented the Goddess - the "Bishop" - was deprived of her breasts through horrible religious plastic surgery centuries ago; it may be that she has been "gone" for centuries now, but she has most certainly not been "forgotten". Shades of the Margolis novel "Gone But Not Forgotten", a suspense thriller that I suggest contains a deeper message than most readers may suspect.

A war of the sexes or a war of ideologies? It might be just a passing predilection on my part to exhume the forbidden, yet I sense that the only way to set the record straight is to do precisely what the Goddess Chess site is doing - to provide alternative views and place knowledge where it can be made available to the many. Georgia is right about the mainstream media though. Here in Canada for instance, we have a man by the name of Conrad Black - who owns about three quarters (maybe more) of all the press publications masquearding as newspapers in this country. He is a moneyed thug with noble pretensions, who would cut off his nose despite his face if it meant advacing his profile in Canadian culture and politics. You can see the "party line" as it is woven in almost all the editorial comment that graces the pages of his press. What a waste of ink! But the job does get done - as much by sins of omission as by comission. One cannot help but be resentful of the massive brainwash and the way this man extends his opinions through the work of his journalist hacks and flunkys. My sister and twenty five other local freelance journalists are presently at war with him - a class action suit that contends against his greedy handling of electronic copyright. This could be the most hated man in Canada. I hope that he and his kind get exactly what they deserve - and the way to make sure that they do reap their just rewards is to publish "the truth".

Even for the "thinking person", it is not easy to see behind the veneer of media manipulation much less detect its subtle influence on society as a whole. The only way to offset rampant distortions and wholesale lies is to publish, preach and point. Conspiricy theorists make hay while the sun shines. A transitory lot, I am not enamoured of their type either - the David Ickes and so forth. With the Goddess premise you have more and better legs to travel on and an entire history of disenfranchisement to glean support for this thesis. I view the entire issue as a VERY serious and potentially powerful statement - an indictment of all that has been destructively cultivated - inbred into the male psyche via the notion of peace and prosperity through militaristic might. No wonder it is the much despised and cowardly god (Aries) who presides over the battles and the spoils thereof.

Despite so many thousands of years of warfare, I would not even dignify such things as being afixed to genetic traits or a territorial imperative. These scientifically held opinions are mere apologetics which ultimately give to one and all the licence to kill. Whenever violence and alienation increase, Darwinian notions of hierarchy and natural selection, ethnic superiority, among so many other contributing factors, can be more clearly signaled as capricious, weak kneed, sleepwalkers capable of wisking us off to war at a moment's notice. As such, I submit that the his/herstory of chess must also be one of war and aggression as it is one of love and compassion. The light and the dark...

Don ... I sense that the coming Age where the Goddess is appreciated and has Equality with the special energy she has to contribute, this Age very well is the Armegeddon of the Old way. The Goddess teaches healing and her patience will eventually overcome any other warlike energies. That is the power of Love. We do not know the whole story yet so should not judge ourselves to harshly on our history. I have a feeling that Human's are at the core a very peace-loving bunch. After all they do carry the name of the Heartbeat of the Song of our Galactic Mother in the very name "HU Man". The HU refers to "Hunab Ku"  which is the mayan name for the harmonious heartbeat of our galaxy. Notice the HU of "Human" is the first two letters and the first/last (alpha/omega) of Hunab KU.

What does this H U stand for? Heart of Universe
What does M A N stand for? Matter that Angels are Navigating

"Human Heart" = 46 -- 64 (chessboard squares)
"Earth Human" = 46

We have 46 chromosomes so even our DNA carries the numbers and when using the mayan glyphs to decode 46 we get "Seeds of Change".

37 + 9 = 46

37 = hydrogen root harmonic of Matter, 9 = base harmonic of Light and when we put them together we get Human which combines the White and Black of the chessboard. The greatest act of Magic and Healing ever! The Goddess must be with Us.

Mark - yes, I hope that whatever transformation we anticipate comes down peacefully - although I can't help but think that once a critical mass is reached...

Art (Hilly Rose actually) had an interesting guest on last night who spoke eloquently about the martiarchal system of ancient Egypt. Steven Mailer and the Kinneman (sp?) Foundation is involved in research on "Keneshian"(sp?) Egypt. I tried to grab the url as it floated floated by during the interview (on three occasions!) and each time the delivery of the last few letters sounded garbled - unclear. I wonder if anyone managed to get hold of this location.

Anyway his premise holds promise! Basically, he contests the ancient Greek interpretation of Egyptian culture and shows that the dynasties emerged through a matralineal system whereby the queen held all power - even though the king sallied forth upon the pubic stage - prototype of the Bill and Hillary arrangement.

Royals wed today. Wonder how this will play out?

Jan, while in search mode I discovered a few historical sites (pun??!) that dealt with the Dorian invasions of approximately 1000 B.C. It appears as though the clash between iron and bronze ages shows Hercules (Herekles) in the middle of the fray along with a mysterious "Sea People" who were possibly of Danube origin. This unspecified tribe was responsible for the disruption of trade in the eastern Mediterranian as well as Crete. Their activities were also being monitored by an equally mysterious "Watchers by the Sea". Though small in number, or so it is alleged, they made a major impact militarily and seem responsible for the destruction and overthrow of many societies and cultures.

Thank you Mark for the Manna Post. Manna ties into this Weave in a very special way, as Mark already knows, and of course the MiV know also.

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.

deLion, before making comment re post 1017, I would need to review the materials at the sites you discovered. Can you forward the URL's? I will say this: I believe there is an overarching explanation for dispersion of The Game based, at least, in part, upon migratory patterns. And it does not coincide with the time line presented by traditional chess "HIStory".

Don, you have Conrad Black and we have William Randolf Hearst(yellow journalism was his specialty),even though he is dead, he trained his people well to follow in his foot steps. If you would like to know what Hearst and his MiV buddy Dupont did to the Library of Congress E-Mail me and I will send you the details.

Now that we all have the Web, we can all reach over people like Conrad and Hearst and discover that truths that they do not want us to know. Nuit has worked her magic.

Do all things with LOVE.

LOVE

G

May Manna Always be with You.

Georgia ... your post 1020 about the "web" made me think of the Indians who have
Grandmother Spiderwoman (weaves a web) and how she represents the Goddess energy.
She also connects us with Chess and Maya very significantly in number:

"Grandmother Spiderwoman" = 260 (26 numerology)

260 is the exact number of kin in the mayan Tzolkin. Very interesting. Recall in mayan number that 0 and 20 can be interchanged. Thus 260 = 2+6+20 = 28 and this is the number of days in the cycle of the mayan Moon. This connects to chess by the following numbers:

260 = 26 0 = 26 + 20 = 46 (chromosomes) and some mirror magick 46 to 64

64 = 28 + 8 + 28

Lets play the 20 to 0 switch again to change these 28 into 8.

8 + 8 + 8 = 888

In germatia numerology this number 888 represents Christ ... a Trinity of Infinity. Infinite father, Infinite mother, Infinite child.

G, I am sick to death of all those close-minded idiots who call themselves historians - whether it be of chess, the ancients, WWII, or whatever! "His"tory as they practice it is an art NOT based on the facts at all, but a matter of pure interpretation; it is most definitely NOT a science. It's been said that the winner has the right to give his own spin to the story; that, unfortunately, is what has happened with "his"tory. I am most particularly sick of the MiV; I have heard it said that if one tries to start an MiV on fire the MiV will not burn because he is a child of Satan. Hmmmmm, wonder if that's really true? I have this image of Xena strapping on this big ol' flamethrower...

When the Fundamentalists performed a double mastectomy on the chesty Bishop and tried to eliminate the goddess from The Game, they introduced one more element of disharmony into an already unbalanced, disharmonious world because of the prior banishment of the goddess. The Goddess Dis must be laughing her fanny off right now, lending her name to such obviously tongue-in-cheek words! Well, unless we all drop dead the Weave isn't going anywhere any time soon. I have had it "up to here" with MiV and the MiV wannabes; words of advice boys, you don't, I repeat, you DO NOT, want to get me angry. I am off on a new research trail - will report when I have some findings.

 I think what we want is both HIStory and HERstory to get OURstory. The mastectomy on the bishop is symbolic of the elimination of the Priestess hence no women can be a priest.  Why not? Obviously women must be equal spiritually and have much to offer otherwise they would not be here. Unfortunately, what I see is women being turned into what men have been herded into. Both men and women need to move beyond limitation of thought that restricts all of us. Each have much to offer and should do so in equality. Our Chess-Weave is a good example of how well this can work if we co-create
and work together.

I saw a chess game the other day made of sea creatures there were Dolphin pawns, Sea-horse knights, the Queen was a mermaid and the king was a large Dolphin. Interesting the Seahorse was the Knight and it is the male seahorse that gives birth.

I can see it now Xena's BBQ Palace with the house special "Flamethrower grilled MiV" served by a beautiful and wise Goddess.

Oh Mark, you make me laugh! Xena's BBQ Palace! Sounds like a Las Vegas type place to me! Post 1022 was one of those posts that mysteriously disappeared for awhile, only to reappear today! It was originally done right after post 1011 by Isis, except now it is totally out of sequence! I AM a fire-breathing dragon, am I not? LOL! But those MiV - stay out of my way, that's all I've got to say. Hmmmm, just noticed the interesting correlation - 1011 and 1022 - 11 and 22. Significant?

Thanks for the URL on the Coming of the Dorians, deLion. Printed out 18 pages worth of materials and will post my thoughts later on. Early suspicion is that this is part of the same group the Egyptians called the "Peoples of the Sea" who caused so much havoc before finally being pushed back by the Egyptians - would have to check the dates again to be absolutely certain - around 1200 BCE or thereabouts. They had migrated to Greece from the Caucausas area - my favorite cradle of civilization - between approximately 3000 - 2500 BCE and taken over there, and spread themselves out here, there and everywhere. All descendants of Japhteth. Son of Noah.

Ref. # 1022

Jan, I am sure there are ourstorians (her/historians), the only problem is, THE MiV, they will do all they can to stop the truth from coming out, and believe me, they have the BIG BUCKS $$$ and BIG GUNS to do it with. The MiV can sabotage a young ourtorians career with one word to a university president. Just remember they have been doing this for thousands of years, they are very good at it. They have the power to keep a person from working, with character assassination, look what they did to their MOTHER, THE MOTHER GODDESS.

LOVE

G

May The Hand of The Goddess Always be with You.

Sigh, Isis, I know you are right. Thing is, they always go after the ones who don't know how to fight back - or don't have the means to do so! Not that they'd ever come after me - I am no one, after all, not a powerful personage, not an ourstorian, fledgling or otherwise (much as I imagine myself to be one!) - but if they ever did, I'd slap their faces silly with so many law suits they wouldn't know what hit them! Intentional inflictional of emotional distress (a big $$$ maker these days); interference with contractual relations (re my working relationships); RICO code violations (that's another good one! - I'd name the Pope as a co-conspirator); and the good old stand-bys, slander and defamation! As a "private" personage my level of proof would be much lower than that of a "public personality".

Ahem. Sorry! Xenalawyer sometimes gets carried away. Gerhard Josten and I have embarked upon what promises to be a most entertaining and informative exercise - we are engaging in a dialogue involving the origins, structure and meaning of The Game. When complete, we shall post the whole. If interested, write me for more details.

 Georgia ... time maybe running out for the MiV and like the chessboard they
know how many squares are left and that they are moving into a corner called
2012AD. Seems the Goddess like any good mother knows well how to deal
with children. If you have heard of the Philidelphia Experiment or Montauk from
what I have heard they went forward in time and hit the barrier and cannot move
beyond it. I suspect this relates to the Mayan calendar 2012 end of cycle. The
holographic realm does not exist beyond that point in time which is symbolically the
edge of the chessboard. The Goddess probably already has "checkmate" of course
the MiV have not much to fear for when the Goddess wins she will give them a hug.

"Goddess Hug" = 46 64
 

Greetings, Mark. I have heard about the Philadelphia Experiment - even read a book about it years ago (and saw the movie on t.v. some time back) - but I don't recall their hitting any time barrier. Can you be more specific?

If that is the case, however, and you are right about 2012, then the MiV (and a lot of other types) will be getting quite desperate - although why they would continue to insist on playing their silly games when it's all going to come crashing down around them is beyond me - but then, Satan isn't about to give up the game either, according to Revelation. Interesting that you use the end of the chessboard to symbolize the "end of an age". In Part I of my Dialogue with Gerhard Josten, I used The Game itself to symbolize (in miniature) the Universe!

Jan, from what I have heard they haved traveled forward in time to a point where they could go no further same is true of the past. Sort of a bubble in time or a holographic feild. The one guy I forget his name right now but he was a survivor of Philadelphia experiment and was also involved in Montuak. It is beleived both were time travel experiments and both failed. They may have a connection back to Atlantis and synthetic Merkaba attempt that was patterned after the Mar's synthetic merkaba which failed. The Merkaba means MER=light KA=spirit BA=body and they are natural forms for life. Of course some Miv types are tempted to tamper with things especially to control others. In 2012 the limitations are lifted and I believe people operating from the heart and in harmony with Goddess energy will probably really enjoy themselves.

"End of an Age" and the beginning of a "New Age" and the new age might have a spherical chessboard and Bishops with Breasts. We might see the true potential of Humans both male and female sides. In Chess terms we all get promoted to Queens and can move anywhere. But remember the Queen always has her Knight who becomes a King.

Just finished reading a fantastic book - an oldie (1954) by Nikos Kazantzakis (Zorba the Greek, The Last Tempation of Christ) entitled "The Saviours of God". It is not so much a book as it is a prose poem and not so much a poem as it is an heroic attempt to crack the cosmic egg, so to speak. How successful was it? Well, it was quickly placed on the "Index" of forbidden things by the Vatican. Intensely spiritual, Kazantzakis offers profound insights throughout. One of the things that struck me towards the close was his premise that, "in the beginning", human spiritual insights were developed and nurtured within the palaces and mansions of the very well to do and the powerful. In other words, their power and authority came about as a result of superior insight and gifts were bestowed in honour of their capacity to unite and instruct humanity rather than divide and conquer.

Inevitably, whether through internal intrigue, hostile outside forces (such as the Dorians), or a combination of both, various corruptions of the original concept of hierarchy evolved - so that, in Kazantzakis' opinion, the last couple of millennia eramarked and age wherein the evolutionary task of spiritual ascent has been more or less handed over to educated slaves. Clearly, this conjures images of the chessboard with its succesive rows of royalty and serfs. Once again, it is only the knight - an odd amalgam of the royal and the common - a human and a horse - who can step forward in defense of the weaker serfs.

I note with the keenest interest Kazantzakis' insistance upon using comparisons between light and dark, as well as his consistant use of battlefield metaphors. Although he never once mentions the game of chess in any overt sense, both the game and the Goddess are implicit in the book which he himself considered his greatest work. The general premise is delightful in itself - for in it, mankind plays a role in his own as well as God's salvation. Dispensation and supplication be damned. The battle rages within. No wonder the Vatican resisted! The cover itself, a depiction of an eight-armed whorl or mandala, is enough of a tip off. I reccommend it to everyone posting on and reading though this discussion group and consider it to be one of the best kept literary secrets of all time.

 Don ... wow! that does sound interesting the cover of the book "The Saviours of God" alone I am sure has alot.  I will have to find it and give it a read. Thank you for the post. I just have to check out
the numbers : )

"The Saviours of God" = 78 --- 78 = 7+8 = 15 = 1+5 = 6
"Nikos Kazantzakis" = 63 --- 63 = 6+3 = 9

Interesting we have a 6 and 9 which are the same symbol just flipped 180 degrees. Like the two 90 degree flips of the Chess Knight's move in the L pattern. The 8 armed manadal of the cover is also connected to the word Chess. 1 center & 8 arms  is 18 "Chess" = 18 and also "Love" = 18 and the first letter of Love is our L the pattern of the move of the Knight.

The Goddess of the Knight : : N u i t

Greetings Georgia, RE POST 1020 I would be most interested in the material you are referring to. Please email me.

Thankyou DeLion for the info on the book. I will put it on my reading list.

DELion and Jan, RE POST 1019: The URLS that were referred to. Please post them or email them to me thanks.

Hi Vickie

Here are a few Urls that might be useful. Pi's collection of bookmarks is getting somewhat voluminous, however, he/she says that they are preferable to books in some ways - particularly since they do not burn as easily.

Indo European Languages (for perspective) http://chess96.com/Olympiad/indoeuro.htm

THE COLLAPSE OF MYCENAEAN PALATIAL CIVILIZATION AND THE COMING OF THE DORIANS http://www.indiana.edu/~classics/aegean/R28.html

Chess History, -1799 http://misc.traveller.com/chess/history/0-1799.html

Pi's word of the day is "TRANSUBSTANTIATION" Pi thinks that Nikos K. is well substantiated and considers naming a star after him - or maybe a constellation — "Zorba". Of course it would be a single star circled by a number of others that would appear to dance before the astronomer's telescope.

Thanks for the anaylsis Mark. 6's and 9's does a pretty good job of expressing Mr. K's masterpiece.

Greetings, darlings, on this lovely Friday evening! Yesterday I wrote to Gerhard, "In order to find the correct answers, one must first frame the correct questions". Came across this most interesting article that addresses just this point in the June 14, 1999 issue of Newsweek (www.newsweek.com), "From Both Sides Now", written by Sharon Begley.

"Out on the western plains, biologists were studying herds of mustangs, in which the reigning stallion was believed to have the sole right to procreate. Then a researcher got the bright idea of running DNA tests on the horses. As paternity tests often do, these proved embarrassing: fewer than one third of the herd's foals had been sired by the resident stallions. Instead, mares had snuck over to other herds, mating with males there. Blinded by the 'harem' metaphor of mustang social structure, researchers had not even looked for such female behavior."

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In her new book "Has Feminism Changed Science?", Penn State historian Londa Schiebinger answers with a definite yes. "Science is not value-neutral", she argues. "Getting the right answers - turning the crank - may be gender-free. But it is often in setting priorities about what will and what will not be known that gender has an impact."

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"That's the key: it is not that men and women do science differently, but that they choose different questions to pursue, says biologist Patricia Adair Gowaty of the University of Georgia. ... 'I'm not doing the science any differently, but I'm asking a question that has not been asked before.'"

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"... From the 1950s to the 1970s primatologists studied savanna baboons. This species is more aggressive, male-dominated and competitive than any other nonhuman primate. 'Most of these scientists were men', says primatologist Linda Fedigan of the University of Alberta. The species they chose, she says, reinforced the notion that male dominance and aggression are the norms of primate behavior, including ours, and that it is the males who bring social cohesion to the troop. When feminists and women entered the field, in the 1970s, they upended the stereotype of the passive, dependent female, and questioned the idea that male aggressions and alliances are the most powerful shapers of primate society. Instead, it turns out that elderly female baboons determine where the troop will forage each day, and a male's reproductive success depends less on his place in the dominance hierarchy than it does on his relationships with the troop's females. And when women began studying primates other than baboons, they found that females actively pursue males and have loads of extramarital affairs - apparently to get more males to provide and care for the babies. Now females are no longer considered peripheral to primate evolution."

Ahem, ahem! Pardon Xena while she clears her throat -- perhaps a "hard" lesson in science and history to also be applied to those traditionalists who think they know the origins of The Game!

Jan, the MiV must have missed a few biology classes. Get aload of this statement, "The lord is my shepard". Don't the MiV understand that WE ARE NOT SHEEP, WE ARE PRIMATES. Maybe I should sit down with the MiV and explain it to them,Biology 101, even better, I will have my 9 year old daughter explain it to them:-)

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.

 Jan and Georgia ... very interesting and not too surprising the inventive female spirit will
find a creative way to deal with an inbalance in behavior. Jan the horse info was fun because
the King Stallion lost out to the Knight male in the other hourse camp. There are always
many players to the game the King and Queen but all the others as well. I think having the
female type of thinking in science and anything is good. The more perspectives the better the
view of reality. Seems like Chess and the Goddess both teach this principle.

"The more perspectives the better the view of reality. Seems like Chess and the Goddess both teach this principle". You are right, Mark. Still, most of "man"kind don't yet get it. Oh well! I will keep plugging along on the goddess trail - perhaps someday I will uncover some definitive "proof" that Chess is, indeed, the Game of the Goddess that will knock the socks right off of the MiV and all the MiV wannabes, and all those staid stuffy so-called "chess" historians!

I have been trying to track down further information on the periodic banning of chess at various times in Arabia, however, no luck yet. It's worse than looking for a needle in a haystack since this information could be tucked in a history or a book almost anywhere - or perhaps, nowhere! Still, it was in Bill Walls' timeline that deLion sent to me, and he obviously got the information from somewhere! I have sent a few e-mails out to Islamic education sites but so far haven't received replies. I will keep looking. I feel very strongly that this is when the female element was banned from The Game (circa 7th century CE) - but I need to read the rationales behind the initial and later bannings of The Game before I can assert this as anything more than a "feeling".

Jan ref 1038 "before I can assert this as anything more than a "feeling". "

I once read by a female writer these words:

"If you want to know the truth of something.
How does it make you feel? Does it feel true?"

The power of the Goddess is "Feeling" a well connected intuition cannot be lied
to as the logical rational min fooled with false information. The power of the Goddess
is Heart and intuition. She just knows!

"Feelings" = 41

"Heart manna" = 41

"The Goddess is within dancing with each breath, each heartbeat."

Mark, I ALWAYS trust my intuitions - they are invariably correct! However, in the patriarchal-slanted realm of chess "his"tory, "feelings" that both lead to and represent beliefs don't count for a hill of beans! That is one of the issues Gerhard and I are discussing right now in our dialogue. Of course, it is conveniently ignored that "feelings" are just another word for "hypotheses" - which are the working questions around which research is performed! It is unfortunate that until the greater number of "man"kind get it, most of chess as it is played today will remain a male-angst, anal-retentive excuse for warfare!

We have discovered, from the Nag Hammadi writings, that the phrase "I am what I am" is attributed to Isis (a Mother Goddess). Knowing this I wondered what other writings, attributed to the Mother Goddess, had been plagiarized by the MiV. Robert Graves (The White Goddess) has shown that many ancient writings attributed to the Goddess were altered and plagiarized by the Miv.

I asked myself, what other ancient writings had the MiV tampered with?

From post 1035: "the elderly female baboons determine where the troop will forage each day"

From post 1036: "We are not sheep, we are primates..... The lord is my shepard.."

I pulled out a king james bible and took a close look at Psalm 23. Then I worked a little Graves magic and this is the result:

This version fits nature much better. Even money the 23rd Psalm belongs to the Goddess.

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.

Oooooooooh, Isis! All bets are off, LOL! Here's a good one, from when Adam first laid eyes on Eve - one can just imagine the scene. Poor lonely Adam, having just finished the tremendous and time-consuming task of reviewing and naming all of the animal-types, realizes that among all of the many different species he has seen and named, he has found no "mate" for himself. Every "kind" of the fauna have mates, but not he! So, "Causes to Become" (root for Jehovah or Yaweh) sets about creating a mate. And when Adam first scopes her out, we have the first instance of recorded poetry by mankind (Genesis 2:23-24): "This is now bone of my bone, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they become one flesh."

Except Cecil de Mille got it backwards! For many years science has known that all fetuses develop first as females, and only "later" diverge and grow into the male of the species. A conundrum that the "church" has never addressed - i.e., perhaps if we ignore it, it will go away! LOL! Well, this makes perfectly good sense if the so-called "order" of creation of "man"kind is reversed: man comes out of woman, not the other way around! Duhhhh, darlings! Therefore, it seems perfectly obvious that woman was created first, and Adam afterward; it was only when the patriarchal influence rose to the ascendant that the birth order (and the pronouns in the first poetry) was changed; however, the patriarchs could not change biology!

Truth will out! The first poetry should properly be ascribed to the first woman, "Eve" - who pined for a helpmeet after exercising tremendous creativity and energy in naming all of the fauna of the Earth: "...and HE shall be called man...". Another little scientific factoid: women in general tend to be "right-brained" - i.e., have a greater tendency toward creativity, abstract philosophical concepts, language skills (would have needed this skill, indeed, to name all the animals), and the so-called "people" skills! To steal a line from Isis, "manna for thought", indeed!

Jan ... Interesting about people starting off as female then becoming male. Crystals will change from one to the other female & male in cycles. At some point the crystal creates a family which is both male and female.

Most likely everyone's spirit form is nuetral or has both male and female. We see this in people especially artists who use both their male and female abilities to create with.

Who is the third player in Chess?

Okay, Mark, I give up! Who IS the third player in chess?

Pi begs the indulgence of Isis and Jan Xena in pointing out, as Mark has done, that the tenor of two recent posts results in only one side of the board being shown, thereby precluding the triune divinity even as it skirts the precipice of darkness and an abysmal falling away from the pleroma - the promise of redemption and the transubstantiation which accompanies all divinely fulfilled humanity - for this is sought and found in the melding of opposites and in no other way is God/ess's glory possible.

So then, let's not throw stones at eternal problems, rail against alleged inequalities or use either as a crutch for continued anger and despair. Polarities and injustices exist - pure and simple - and even what may be perceived as evil has its uses when it comes to divining the "truth " of any issue.

Here in my dragon's black heart, the endless nuit - I take you to a place where polite mannerisms and gentle stereotypes go down quietly to their death - where archons feast upon the substances of cagey, though inept dancers.

As all things truly infused with a genuine spiritual knowledge mirror the duplex and draw strength from either pole - it should be obvious by now that in honour of the grand unified role that must befall earthly represenatives of the Godhead, the bishop was and is neither king nor queen.

As the modern social graces would not permit the utterance, much less the acknowledgement of such an unseemly pagan reality - or as certain authors would skirt calling a spade a spade in order to avoid being buried under the stones hurled by indignant imposters, (or those with their own little secrets to hide) preferring to take refuge in genteel understatement to avoid the social and moral inconvenience of championing what to many represents a distastefuly heretical view of reality - so it becomes the lot of dragons to contend that "The Bishop was, is and ever will be a Hermaphrodite!"

To untie the knot - "Why patriarchy and not matriarchy?" (or vice versa) is an interesting undertaking in itself - underlining the prohibitive nature of any philosophical attempt to subsume the divine universe within the causality of either strictly masculine or feminine imperatives. Either way, the result is not only a stillborn issue, but, with the ascent of such hubris, these premises bear no more than the exfoliated branches of an implacable social contention, injustice, strife and an unholy spiritual divide.

Perhaps, we should look into the manifold nature of the whirlwind (as did Job) for our answers, lest we should find ourselves blown off course and confronting mythical mahem somewhere on the borders of two opposing worlds.

Two sides to every coin... Forthwith it has been stated - whether by apologetics or through indispassionate historical attempts to recount events which preciptated the fall of matriarchy - that the patiarchal succession took hold primarily because it was generally perceived that the ancient goddess gave rise to cultic excesses that were indeed ruthless and uneven handed when it came to the affairs of humankind - and most particularly of men. While a closer examination of the historical pagent and the incipient biases of partiarchal historians may reveal some lopsided attenuations, in fact, women may not have fared so well in the cultural hive either - what with only one queen bee and zero tolerance for a rival! There is more than one rule in nature, yet, it would appear as though women need beware women for other reasons...

The above mentioned posts intrinsically point towards a protective wall of willful segregation that women (and men) are wont to build in this day and age. Feminist politics of exclusion are therefore no different from the most extreme partriarchal exculsion of women from the affairs of men. Where such biases contend, (please not here!) the proccupation with winning ground, an argument - or ANYTHING!! - subverts the overall issue and brings into question the ability of either camp to deliver co-constructive mythologies.

Thus, we could say that in woman's wish to postulate a form of female supremecism, preserve and promote her genetic wholism, etc., this wall delineates only half the engine of creation. It is a trap to be avoided - and one which only woman can create in consort with other women.

Even Sophia was deluded to a certain extent and required more of creation than she alone could provide. Nonetheless, socially and biologicaly, it seems the mythic fate that woman will forever seek to devour the male and subsume him within a feminine totality, whereas the male, in light of such intent, seeks to preserve his ambivalence - dances in and out of harm's way as a reminder to the female that the genetic balance of male and female within the male is not hers to contend, question or posess.

While sterotypes abound and archetypes fail to justify the complexity of dynamic interactions between the sexes, for the most part, and for whatever reasons, the task has fallen upon the male of the species to attempt an uncoloured justice - which, in its own right, has given rise to as many monsters as miracles. Nonetheless, as women must take careful note - it is the role of the inspired male to advocate for the goddess. Anything less is easily dimissed as cheerleading. Graves, Templar Knights, Hermeticists et al. knew this and took appropriate action.

Were the male and female not appropriately represented in the Godhead or made manifest on earth, there would be no eros, no continuation and no chess. In effect, there is no bootstrap male or female biology and lest we forget, the male would appear most naturally suited to the task of mediation, having within his biological and psychical matrix the clues to material/maternal propogation as well as an incipient androgyny of spirit. In the higher order of the illuminated male spirit, the female exists within the male, even as men exist to balance things and to prevent nature from consuming itself.

Oh yes! We poor downtrodden, embittered and misguided "feminists" must rely upon men in "the role of inspired male" to stand up for us, and fight the good fight, all hale well and hardy ("what ho, me buggers! let's at 'em!"), for Goddesschess? Oh PULLLLLLEEEEEEEAAAASSSEEEE! Tell me, deLion, do you expect to be able to strike a deal with the MiV, or do you, perhaps, darling, have a chess historian or two up your sleeve who will write articles "sympathetic" to our cause celebre? If so, I am all applause! But let's get real. Your homily is all well and good - in a perfect world it would go over big time, to be sure. But we are far from that perfect world and unless and until you are daily thumped over the head by the reverberations of just such thinking as you are now backhandedly championing, I suggest you pay closer attention and discover what it is we're really talking about here instead of aiming your misguided arrows at the femmes at this site.

DeLion,

Did we hit a NERVE? The MiV in you is showing.

After reading your post I realized you have missed Biology Class also. Take notes now, we are not bees, praying mantis, tarancula, black widow spider, sheep, our any other animal that is not a primate. As for your homework tonight, I want you to study primatetology, may I suggest starting with Jane Goodall.

What do.."genuine Spiritual knowledge"...."grand unified role".. have to do with the bishop? Hermaphrodite? How did you come to this conclusion? Is there a URL or a book that I can reference?

....That the matriarchal succession that were ruthless and eneven.... Is there an URL or book that I can reference this information?

"In the higher order of the illuminated male spirit..." Your violet pettycoat is showing.

"men exist to balance things and to prevent nature from consuming itself.." delion, you should be concerned about nature consuming you.

By the way, the odds have moved on the Goddess's 23rd Psalm, they are now 3 to 1 .

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.

DeLion,

If you need to know what matriarchal societies were like, I would suggest you study these matriarchal societies: Ancient Khmet aka Egypt, Carthage, Mayans, Aztec, Algonquin Nation, Navajo nation and numerous others.

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.

I think most of the really advanced societies actually had a balance of female and male.
We look upon them with our eyes as matriarchal but balance is what they sought. I know
this especially of the Mayans. To us because we have so much what we call "male" energy
out of balance it is normal for us to look at these other cultures as Feminine. Truth is what they
had was a balance with Feminine energy. The Goddess and Priestess contributed equally and
wholly. But Men also benefit when allowed to express their Goddess energy within them.
Chess teaches this balance in its very name "Chess" = 18 and the word "Love" = 18

18 = 9 + 9 and recall 9 is the "number of perfection".

Perfection of Female + Perfection of Male = Love
             9         9             18

Notice that 18 = 1+ 8 = 9 thus we have two 9's becoming one.

Jan there is our 3rd player "The One"

Peace is the Manna of the Goddess and God in Unity
 

Did MY misguided arrow hit a nerve or two? Some nerve eh? Of course I MUST be MiV - if that's how you want to perceive moi! - but actually my colour is more an azure blue.

I note with some chagrin an immediate closing of ranks around this alleged traitor. You but have to say the word and I will, politely withdraw. There is enough warfare in the world. Perhaps this will be my parting shot...

Just because the ancient bishop/bishopress was portayed with "boobies" is no final proof of anything. The "hermaphrodite" was regarded as somewhat sacred in pagan times- an oracle and intermediary SYMBOL - a SIGN of divine androgeny - a prototypical BISHOP/BISHOPRESS if you will. If sharing the universe and its creation is unsatisfactory to some - or if all things must fall specifically into the hands of one sex - male or female - in order to gain legitamacy here or elsewhere - mediating male that I am, I cannot stand idly by without proposing a CONSTRUCTIVE ALTERNATIVE!!

For Chrissake, use your imaginations and step outside the box for the instant it takes to gain a dispassionate view of what your crusade for the goddess might otherwise signify if we are permitted the intellectual freedom to PLAY with this concept. Who knows what all else you might discover wiggling like worms outside the parameters of goddess fixity. Are you prepared for serendipitous discovery? Thus far, by the immediate resistance you have thrown up to the idea of an androgynous bishop, I would say that you are not.

As for requiring "experts" and bashing down the walls of the MiV to state a case - it is a fine and ready made excuse for failure. Scapegoats yes! We do need our scapegoats. I will not be one.

May I remind you that from the outset, the Godess chess folder did not require experts to put forth the basic premise that guides this discussion - which indeed does take a certain leap of faith or induction to accept in many regards. Then, if this is the guiding priniciple - why should "outside the box" conjecture suddenly be so frowned upon? There is more than one thread to pursue. If I diverge, I do so from the same intuitive impulse that guided the initial creation of this discussion, and for the same reasons - that is a love of knowledge, and the hope that with what little we have a thesis can be woven that reflects something truthful or at least lights the way to higher truths.

As for the "higher order of the illuminated male spirit" - well I just knew that phrase would draw attention - and, as I suspected, for all the wrong reasons. There is no "gnosis" without the symbolic Christ and Sophia sharing the inward stage. The dyad of this awakening in the male is, I presume, no different than what crystallizes in the female. (Do instruct me on this if the dynamic is any different for women. I hear whispsers that men are actually important to you in a certain spiritual regard.)

If you wish to interpret my words as posing some sort of masculine supremecy - then by all means, feel welcome - although this is not what I meant at all. I was speaking of a purely individual achievement that cannot be attained without a particularly evolved sense of balance - a la Leonardo's famous pic of the double man with outstreached arms.

As for "feminists" - a poor choice of words indeed - but what word can be used to demonstrate the closed room you are creating with the stubborn assumption of female monadic superiority? Claustrophobia au bout! I merely point out that within such a limited framework you are unwittingly trapped into re-creating and affirming nothing more than one side of the coin whenever you conferr exculsively among your female selves. Does this not seem a little fishy? Might there not be a missing piece to this puzzle? What of the coin when it stands on its edge? What of that same coin when it spins on its edge? Deal evenhandedly with each and every possibilty or suffer the intellectual and spiritual consequences.

As for biology - where it suits your purpose you are extemporizing freely. Do I not have the same right to show by analogy that there are no hard and fast rules in the animal kingdom? As for the suitabiity of these rules to the human condition, I have all kinds of reservations.

I am familiar with Jane Goodall's work. Like Alexander Pope, I prefer to consider a focus on humankind to be the proper study of humankind - and from thence on to the divinity that lies within - which is all that really matters - to me.

Biology may sprout legs and take a brisk walk around the chess board - a spiral one no less - but is is only part of the whole. Chess is nothing if it is not a grand metaphor for the spiritual and the insubstantial that infuses all things (and genders) with life, love, purpose and meaning. If I choose to view the Goddess as being but ONE ASPECT of this complex pagent, I do not think I choose unwisely. In the Grand Unified scheme of things there is plenty of room for Christ, Lucifer, Mary, Sophia, Isis etc etc. There is obviously room on the chess board as well.

As for the matriarhcal upheaval of ancient times - yes, the godess DEMETER was considered a somewhat bloodthirsty appirition in the eyes of some MALE historians. I recall this from studies in gender and the sociology of religion that I undertook at Concordia University some years ago. My professor, a woman, was quite candid in explaining the process that precipitated the upheaval. As for Urls, I'm sure those who seek will find. They do not preoccupy me at the moment. Should they? I am beginning to think so, given the romanticizing gospel I see developing - and the myopic view that gets rewarded here.

I am not saying that the world has not lost something of great value with the demise of the Goddess and the matriarchal system - just as the same can be said about the European colonization of North America or the British infliction of their culture upon the Scots, the Irish, The Welsh, the Cornish, the Zulu, the Indian and so forth. Now, what this amounts to is that these cultures were devastated and their oral transmissions and histories obliterated by white Euro supremecists to the degree that it is presently up to those who did the dirty deed to come clean and assist, at least in part, in the restoration of what was lost by whatever means. Their efforts lend legitamacy and strength to the difficult task of recovering primoridial cultures and the important links to a shattered past that lies under so much rubble and disinformation.

Recovery of valuables, making inroads into the unknown or the little known - the seemingly trivial - I would have made a good Templar, for this is my hard and fast rule for all "lost" things - whether matriarchal, partiarchal or utterly genderless. In order to participate in delion's forbidden archeology you have to be ready to drop preconception and paradigms of all kinds.

Far be it from me to bite the hand of the Goddess... but if my curiosity offends, or if I ask too many of the "wrong" questions, which result in my being branded an MiV - (and I am laughing real loud here) then it is not my little universe that shrinks under the weight of this wholesale politic of conspiracy or suffers in the throes of intellectual dishonesty. An independant free agent, I do my best to divest myself of an imbalanced perspective whenever I become aware of any creeping cancer and, as you see, I don't mind pointing it out to others when I so diagnose. It is bias and extremes that consume, and I will never permit myself to be devoured by my own or another's error, any more than I will allow myself to be painted into a corner with a colour I do not deserve.

Now - in the light of this recent exchange - considering my track record - I do find it quite telling that the first spark of divergent opinion has met with such incredible outrage. This is exactly the kind of heated reaction that the goddesses of yore were famous for - the flash temper - the passionate acts of retribution. Why do you think men feared for their lives? Why do you imagine that men should scratch their heads and wonder at women's "reason"? Why was Roman justice perceived as a liberating force - a breakthrough - at the time of its inception?

Anyway, I am through belabouring my point. I hope however, you can be as accommodating to this as well as other perspectives, and not see them as your mortal enemy. If anything, they are the purest representation of Sophia of which I am capable.

Every rose has its thorns and if they propose some inconvenience or opposition to easy pickings, there just might be a good reason for it. However, given what we have ongoing at this juncture, somehow, I doubt that you are as willing as you are capable of plucking opportunity from the frosty branch. Go on, surprise me. Dare to be all-inclusive. It hurts. I know. But how else do we arrive at anything of value?

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