Mark Borcherding - 08:40am Jun 29, 1999 MST (#1051 of 1058)
dare to dream upon your own star

Don ... I thank you for your contributions, I understand your message and it is one of joining of no supremacy but cooperation and respect for All both the Female (Goddess) and Male (God) that is within us All. When we combine these energies within ourselves then we become the "hermaphrodite" of Alchemy. We then posses an internal balance a harmony. What better way to respect the female and male then to acknowledge and let flower both within our own Hearts and Souls. Any form of supremacy simply creates a seperation within and does not honor the beauty of both the female and male in Unity.

Thank you Mark

You DO understand dragons very well... Even dragons know that they did not create the rules...but are, in spite of all longings, indicted to follow them to the letter in order to arrive at an appreciation of themselves so to speak. It looks like a big gamble at first, but the Hermetic ABCs read like an IOU to the great croupier in the sky.

Triva time?

Which major country is ruled by matriarchal law?

The answer tomarrow. If you get it right, you will get a surprise.

LOVE

G

May Manna Always be with You.

G, how about the good ol' USA, courtesy of the constitution they lifted lock, stock and barrell from the Algonquin Indians - no fair, I know - I cheated since you previously discussed this with me.

deLion, we are not taking strident feminists pot-shots at favorite male targets but have attempted to bring to the attention of whoever reads us - in somewhat dramatic fashion at times - that there is a feminine perspective on things too long taken for granted as being exclusive the domain of the male god. This does not exclude balance - it is done to make a point. I neither want - nor need - anyone, man or woman, to fight my battles for me; but if you want to be my friend and cover my backside with your Claymore, I will gladly accept the assistance. I would render the same to you - to anyone here. If I have offended you with my words, or dear Mark, I apologize - it was never my intention to do so. Now, please, may we all move on?

Jan ... I would bet they got alot of good ideas from Indians.

"America" = 32
"USA" = 5

It is interesting the we do see matriarchal flow in the game of Chess in the form of the power of the Queen being passed to other pawns when they manage to get to the other side. Even more interesting is that the purpose of the Queen and other pieces is to protect the King. Just as a mother protects her child.

"Pawn" = 18

There are more pawns on the board than any other piece 8+8 = 16 pawns so there is a pawn for every non-pawn. The pawns are sort of like little pieces ... like children. Yet there is only one move in which a player can move two pieces at the same time "Castling" why?

Mark, I believe tradtional chess history states that castling was invented to protect the king as well as to speed up The Game, because it brought the rooks more into play. Under rules that originally applied when The Game came to Europe, it could and would sometimes take days to play a game. The piece that became the "Queen" could originally move only one square at a time, on the diagonal, and was therefore not even as "powerful" as a pawn, who can move both straight forward and on a diagonal in order to "take" a piece; under some versions of the rules he who became a she could move two squares the first move, and in yet other variations could, under some circumstances, jump over a piece. There was originally no female "Queen"; "he" only gradually metamorphosized into a "she" in Europe in the late midieval to early middle ages. It was not until sometime in the 1400's in Italy that what we recognize today as the "rules" of The Game were synthesized and quickly popularized because they greatly decreased playing time. I believe, although I would have to double check this, that castling was part of this rules revolution, along with the greatly increased power of the Queen who had by this point been transformed into a female.

Yes Jan everyone is entitled to fight their own battles but from where I stand the battlefield is pitched and uneven. Some of the geometry appears less than forthcoming and so I leave it up to St. Jude to help this discussion arrive at the balance I personally require to be of any meaningful assistance.

Really, it is getting a little too cramped perched endlessly on the lip of the same square and I do have to move or suffer the effects of atrophy - unfurl these wings, get some air...get born.

There's a great big old checkerboard sky out there with so many options. This tiny board may mirror them with a certain symbolic accuracy - but symbols are such slippery things. It is easy to be enticed by them and to mistake them for an entirely different order of reality. So, herein I have no problem declaring a stalemate as I withdraw my charges, enfold them back into myself and like a little whrilling bead, faster than the speed of thought, make my return to yon castle in the wild blue yonder. See you on the other side of the board.

Pi

Jan,

You win, Yes, it is America. The U.S. Constitution was model from the Iroquoi(Jan I had mixed up the Algonquin and the Iroquoi) 6 Nations Constitution. As of August 18th 1920 when womans suggerage(womans right to vote) was added to the U.S. constitution, the final piece to the 6 Nation Constitution fell in place.

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.

Gerhard Josten asked me to post the following for him, and I do so in its entirety:

Jananna, You should be very well prepared............... Chess from the gods or against them? It will be a hard fight! Would you acting for me dare to post this article for your with-believers? Just a question! Gerd

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Jan Newton: I'll have to brush up on my ancient history; my recollection is that ancient Sumer was the successor in interest so to speak to the original city/state of Babylon that arose after the Great Flood. if that's the case, then the present game you're investigating, Georgia, could have been passed down from the game played in Babylon and might go all the way back to the origin of the "mysteries". ----------------

Gerhard Josten 1993

On the Genesis of chess (excerpt)

In my opinion chess is a product of human being´s liberation from gods in connection with the process of self-determination. The Old Sumerian culture has been examined on behalf of other ancient advanced civilizations. In 2350 B.C. this empire collapsed in a way never seen before, after a cultural and state-unity had developed in Mesopotamia for the first time since 3000 B.C.

This deep-rooted change caused a cultural shock, as the Sumerian gods, who manifested themselves in the stars and planets and determined all human fates, had failed in the opinion of the Sumerians. The famous Gigamesh-epos, dating from this period of time, therefore represents a hero, who denies the power of gods and determines his own fate: Gilgamesh. He turned away from the separation between heaven and earth. The Mesopotamian revolutions were not restricted to literature, but also influenced all ancient spiritual values. Thus about 2350 B.C. a new game was created as a document of the unification of heaven and earth and also of the human right of self-determination.

The inventor of this game initially united the pieces of heaven and earth. The heavenly pieces were the same which the priests once had used as images of the planets and simultaneously of the gods, playing the astrological oracle. On the contrary the earthly pieces came from a race-game. Therefore they looked uniform and ran forward. The inventor united the houses of heaven and earth on a board with 64 squares, so that the base lines represented the old divine houses of heaven. One could have called this game "Heaven and Earth". The unification of heavenly and earthly houses and pieces has to be seen as the original reason, why this game has always been accompanied with badges of wedding, fertility or even eroticism in its further history as chess.

While the unification of heaven and earth was realized in the equipment of the game, the self-determination can be found in the aim of the game. Its inventor first condemned the dice, which must do as the gods had wanted, and replaced him by human understanding. The intelligent decisions of the players were directed towards the aim of promoting the earthly pieces by transporting them to the heavenly squares of the opponent. The most successful promoter was the winner, because he was evidently more self-determined or godlike than his opponent.

A lot of old legends ascribe the invention of chess to divine influence. This may be right in parts if we acknowledge the theory outlined above, which requires the existence of the still fictive Mesopotamian promotion-game "Heaven and Earth". During the first 3000 years of its existence it developed, extended, survived and created the king´s piece. But all the events after the day of its birth as a promotion-game seem to be so unimportant in comparison with the invention itself, that already "Heaven and Earth" ought to be called chess.

I think that chess is about 4500 years old, but no more than one third of ist history has been researched so far. Archaeological discoveries of boards and different pieces in Mesopotamia seem to prove this age. As these archaeological discoveries are not sufficient, we need further literary knowledge. I am of the opinion, that the investigation of the entire genesis of chess has only just begun.

You can find detailed information in my papers, written in German, "Urschach aus Uruk?" and "Schach ist Himmel und Erde", which I am happy to hold at your disposal.

Ref.# 1058

I must thank you all for your patience, all through the hundreds of my posts, I am dyslexic and it shows up especially when I am tired or rushed. In my last post 1058 it is really apparent. Correction: It is Sufferage not suggerage. I don't think I should apply for a job as a proof reader;-)

More on the subject of the U.S. Constitution; We are not the only ones that know the U.S Constitution is matriarchal law, the MiV know it also. What is the track record of the MiV with matriarchal societies? Lets concider the matriarchal civilizations that came across the MiV, Khemetians aka Egyptians, Aztecs, Mayans, Carthaginians, Cathers, Celtics, Hawaiians, ancient Lybians...... How many can you come up with?

You will never look at world politics the same again.

Could the MiV have already attacked the United States of America? Hint: They are very patient and very clever.

More on this later.

Remember: The Law is Written on The Hand of The Goddess.

The people who control the Spice of Life control the people of the world.

LOVE

G

May The Hand of The Goddess Always be with You.

Georgia to add to your list Atlantis, Phillipines, American Indians, Druids.

From what I have heard Human civilization was like a 12 year girl at the time of Atlantis notice I did say girl. The reason is they were processing information primarily by intuition rather than logic. An event occured which is what you would call the entry of the MiV. The MiV were sort of the opposite and operated primarily thru logic. Well needless to say hard for them to understand each other very well. They were like white and black squares on a Chessboard. The opposites!!! However, we may see the beauty of each just by looking at the night sky. A blackness with little whiteish lights that co-exist. Back to the story ... these two had their communication problems and were trying to get along but then an event occured which shattered the already difficult relationship. A comet or asteriod was detected coming at Earth. The logicals wanted to destroy it before it hit Earth. The inutitives wanted to let things be an occur naturally. A vote was taken and the intuitives "let things be" won the vote. Well the object did hit Earth and is buried on the east coast of the USA (there is a website with info forget its address right now). It hit and as luck would have most of the people killed were the logicals. Of course Atlantis was also destroyed. The remaining logicals were understandably upset with the intuitives for they took almost all of the casualties that would have been prevented with their plan. So they said we have had it! We do not want anything to do with you intuitives. We divorce you! ... We are now trying to heal from this an many things in our past. We will make it. But we need the Goddess energy of Intuition and the energy of Logic to be as One.

The Goddess and God are both within the Great Spirit

Mark, that is a very touching telling of the destruction of Atlantis saga. Without logic and rationality I doubt we could function very long as people, nations, or a world! The MiV are at the extreme end of the logic/rationality scale - they are a breed apart and have goals and motives contrary to the dreamed of greater goal of reunification of the intuitives and the logicals. One may choose not to believe, but there is an epic battle being waged on levels we cannot even begin to fathom, and we are all of us a part of it - some unwilling draftees; our fate as a race depends upon the outcome. Chess is the perfect representation of the unification of the feminine and masculine archetypes and principles, and teaches us how the longed-for reunification is possible.

Jan ... I am glad you liked the story. Recall the One. The other 3rd player. There are 64 Human Codons relating in our DNA like the 64 squares on the Chessboard. Thus each person symbolically is a chessboard with all the black and white squares. Also with all the archtypes of each piece. But there is a 65th square hidden also symbolized by the 65th unused stick in the I-Ching. This 65 is hidden is right in front of us ... also in us. The 65th square or 3rd player is the One. The wholeness of the entire chessboard operating in harmony. This is the reason that either the male or female trying to be superior will not work for that battle will cause fighting between (Men &Women) (Patriarchies& Matriarchies) (Goddess God) but it will also be fought (Inside Outside) each person.

It is interesting that Chess has evolved and changed just as DNA will evolve and change. We already have 3 new sets of children with 4 new DNA codons turned on which has been proven with DNA testing. Currently most people have 20 codons active if I recall correclty so these children have 24 active codons. There are now several million of these children on Earth. Look for a book called "The Indigo Children". Recall the Knight always moves 4 squares or codons.

The Manna of 4 4 4

Now where was I, the MiV, patient and clever.

Tactics of war; When an aggressor takes over a civilization what are the first places they destroy? The Libraries(The Library at Alexandria, for one),and the schools are the first on the list.

Did you know that the Library of Congress has millions and millions of books desintigrating, falling apart, and there seems to be know way of saving them. I see this as an attack on the U.S. of America.

Who are the culprits in this attack, who else, the MiV. Remember that on August 18, 1920 woman got the right to vote, that made the Constitution matriarchal, that is when the MiV started their attack. In the early twenties the Vatican got into the Library of Congress, the first step, then, with the help of MiV's, William Randolph Hearst and Pierre Depont, they with their power of press and the Vatican backing ,made hemp illegal, based on heresay and and anicdotal stories, not on sound scientific evidence. I must explain that hemp makes the finest paper in the world, wood pulp the worst, the MiV knew that it would be like placing a time bomb, in the Library, if our nations paper was made of wood pulp, and they succeeded. One must also realize that the Constitution is written on Hemp. The founding Fathers knew that Hemp would last through the centuries, that is just one of the reasons they chose it. I will tell you more about Hemp another time.

There is more to follow.

LOVE

G

May the Hemp Always be with You.

Georgia,

Yes the loss of the Library at Alexandria was great and probably we would all
benefit from the knowledge it held. Hemp from what I understand is very good
for clothes, rope, and many many things. Lets see what number has to tell us:

"Hemp" = 24 -or- 8+8+8 in gemtria numerology Christ is 888

"Alexandria" = 44
"Goddess Manna" = 44

Georgia looks like you struck Gold! .................. "Gold Hemp" = 44
 
 

At long last I have moved on to the "Pentad" and have worked my way through the Fibonnaci sequence. I don't remember if I posted previously about the Pentad - if I did it was close to 200 posts or so ago and I haven't gone back to look! But, just in case, I will merely summarize here. Schneider states that the Pentad "represents a new level of cosmic design, the introduction of life itself". The Five is represented as the fifth Platonic volume known to philosophers as the Quintessence ("fifth being") of nature, encompassing and infusing the four elements - solids, liquids, gases, and electronic fire, with the life they cannot create by themselves alone. "Pentagonal symmetry is the supreme symbol of life". Thus, the five pointed star's symbolism is familiar to us in numerous national flags (including our own here in the USA; Schneider says this is a deep archetypal symbol common to everyone and is a powerful icon, else why would so many countries with conflicting ideologies each claim the same symbol as their own?; and states that "vexillologists tell us that the appearance of star-spangled flags continues a ritual dating back millennia, when flags were seen as magical symbols of power and invulnerability";), in commercials ("You can trust your car to the man who wears the star, the big bright Texaco star...") and commercial logos (Proctor & Gamble; Chrysler, etc.), in our terminology (movie star, superstar, starstruck; - stardom conveys a deep-seated association with excellence and brilliance). From ancient times this star has been a magical symbol for warding off evil in Babylon, Egypt, Greece, India, China, Africa, the Americas, and elsewhere.

Gerhard Josten provided me with graphics sometime ago relating to the goddess Ishtar/Inanna and her symbol, the star; however, I counted the points of the stars in the graphics and they were eight-pointed stars, not pentagrams. (Gerhard has associated Inanna with Chess.) So, here are a couple of questions: (1) is there a goddess(es) and/or god(s) associated with the pentagram? (2) are there any pentagrams implicit, or explicit, in The Game?

 Jan,

If you look at a square on the Chess board there are four corners or "points"
but then there is the hidden "5th point" which is the center of the square. This is
a little more obvious in the pyramid where the capstone is not so hidden. If we put
2 chessboard squares a black and white together then we would have 8 corners
(theres your 8) but of course when the black and white merge and become One
then we are left back with the 5. Symbolically, this means the Goddess energy
must be in the 5.

"Pentagram" = 41

So number appears to confirm the 4 and the 1 becoming a 5.
The Human body  is pentagonal:
4 arms/legs and 1 head.
4 senses of the Head (see,smell,hear,taste) and 1 sense of the whole body (touch)
4 fingers and 1 thumb.

"Chess" = 18 = 1+8 = 9 -or- 1 + 4 + 4

We could say 4 black points and 4 white points become 1
So if we add the 1 to both 4's then we have two pentagrams or 10.

Holmes! Fess up now and admit you’ve read Schneider’s book! Otherwise, you’ve once again demonstrated why you are our resident genius.

One of the symbols Schneider points to as representing the Pentad is the Roman numeral V, deriving from the shape of the space between the open thumb and fingers (your allusion to 4 fingers and 1 thumb). He also states “the Roman numeral for ten, the leter X, is actually two V’s.” Duh, well, of course, now since he pointed it out it is perfectly clear to moi! Knocknock/ Who’s There? Question: How many kicks to the head does it take for Xena to learn her lesson? Answer: As many as it takes…

Another symbol and famous representation of the concept of Pentad is Michaelangelo’s Man Within Circle, nicely shown at http://home.earthlink.net/~dakster/symbols.htm, click on “Da Vinci” under “The Pentagram” section; see also a representation at http://intranet.ca/~magicworks/knights/sigil.html. You also alluded to this symbolism in post 1067. One has only to “square the circle” to see the relationship of Pentad to the square, squares, and to the Chessboard as a whole. As a symbol of “spirit infusing life”, it is only fitting that it be incorporated into the Board.

One of the many images Schneider invokes while explaining the power of the Pentad is that of Gary Cooper as the Sheriff from “High Noon” (“Do not forsake me, oh my darling…”), with a silver Pentad engraved with “Sheriff” plastered over his left “breast” (see page 100, lower left hand corner if you don’t believe me!). As this just happens to be one of my favorite movies of all time, and since I have been madly in love with the dear departed Messr. Cooper since childhood, this image evoked the most powerful chords and connections in moi.

In attempting to uncover possible connections of the Pentad to The Goddess/God/Game, I have encountered many fascinating websites which discuss the ancientness of the Pentad and the origins of its associations with “evil” and “devil”. More on this in subsequent posts. Other than Schneider’s noting that Pythagoreans “wrote the name of the goddess Hygeia around its points”, I have thus far discovered no connection to a specific God or Goddess. However, there is a definite connection to the representation of the Monad (“All That Is”), because traditionally the Pentad is drawn within the Circle representing the Monad. The Monad, being “All That Is” encompasses all archetypical representations of the creative powers of all gods and goddesses, represents “Spirit”, as Schneider asserts and as I have found affirmed in numerous websites, including the “dakster” site noted above, http://www.mysticflame.com/CyberWitch/fire.html; www.silvermoon.net/catala/aboutwicca/pentagram.htm; and http://www.psychictech.com/evil/pentagram_inverted.htm.

P.S. How many pentagons can be found in the "Tree of Life" shown at http:/home.earthlink.net/~dakster/symbols.htm?

Jan, I found this information in "Masonic, Hermetic, Qabbalistic & Rosicrucian Symbolical Philosophy" by Manly D. Hall:

The pentab__5__ is the union of an odd and even number (3 and 2). among the Greeks, the pentagram was a sacred symbol of light, health, and vitality. It also symbolized the fifth element__Ether__because it is free from the disturbances of the four lower elements. It is called quilibrium, because it divides the perfect number 10 into two equal parts.

The pentad is symbolic of Nature, for, when multiplied by itself it returns into itself, just as grains of wheat, starting in the form of seed, pass through Nature's processes and reproduce the seed of the wheat as the ultimate form of their own growth. Other numbers multiplied by themselves produce other numbers, but only 5 and 6 multiplied by themselves represent and retain their original number as the last figure in their products.

The pentad represents all the superior and inferior beings It is sometimes referred to as the hierophant, or the priest of the Mysteries, because of its connection with the spiritual ethers, by means of which mystic development is attained. Keywords of the pentad are reconciliation, alternation, marriage, immortality, cordiality, providence, and sound. Among the deities who partook of the nature of the pentad were Pallas, Nemesis, Bubastia(Bast), Venus, Androgynia, Cytherea, and the messengers of Jupiter.

The tetrad (the elements) plus the monad equals the pentad. The Pythagoreans taught that the elements of earth, fire, air, and water were permeated by a substance called ether__the basis of vitality and life. Therefore, they chose the five-pointed star, or pentagram, as the symbol of vitality, health, and interpenetration.

It was customary for the philosophers to conceal the element of earth under the symbol of a dragon, and many of the heroes of antiquity were told to go forth and slay the dragon. Hence, they drove their sword (the monad) into the body of the dragon(the tetrad). This resulted in the formation of the pentad, a symbol of the victory of the spritual nature over the material nature.

I hope I didn't do too much creative typing:-)

G, that is interesting about the four elements being called the "dragon" and the monad being the "sword". I didn't find that information in what I dug up. That might explain at least one of the graphics I found at www.mysticflame.com/CyberWitch/fire.html of a rather shapely nekked lady riding a dragon. The pentagram has a long history - two sites I discovered date its first use back to circa 3500 BCE (symbol found on Mesopotamian potsherds) where it was used by rulers as a symbol of their power over the four corners of the world. Interestingly, this bit of information came from two separate sites devoted to the Knights Templar. The pentagram was used by the Hebrews as a symbol for Truth and the Pentateuch, and was sometimes called the Seal of Solomon. (The Templar site at http://intranet.ca/~magicworks/knights/sigil.html disputes this, stating that the Star of David or the double triangle is the true Seal of Solomon). The city of Jerusalem used the pentagram as its seal - see www.thornr.demon.co.uk/kchrist/pent.html for a look at the seal - the author of that site also speculates as to whether the Templars might have adopted the pentagram as a symbol of their order because of it's connection to the Temple of Solomon. The ancient greeks called the Pentagram the pentalpha because it was formed from five "letter A's".

The golden mean is incorporated into the arms and angles of the Pentagram. The Pythagoreans apparently ascribed secret power to the symbol and used it as a sign of recognition amongst themselves.

Apparently the Pentagram first became associated with "evil" in the 14th century when the Church and the King of France decided to discredit and destroy the Templars by accusing the order, among other things, of worshipping an idol called Baphomet (more on this later). I did find one site that stated the Crusaders associated the upside down Pentagram (with the "top" pointed downward)with the devil. However, this doesn't seem to make much sense, unless these were very late Crusaders because it is generally agreed the Pentagram was used by early christians to signify the five wounds of Christ and that famous old Pagan called the first Holy Roman Emperor, Constantine, incorporated the Pentagram as part of his seal.

One site I found associates the Pentagram with goddess worship and states that the symbol may have been derived from "her sacred five petaled apple blossoms and seeds". This same site associates the five points to the five stages of life - birth, puberty, marriage, rest from labors and death, along with the four ancient elements surmounted by Spirit (http://members.tripod.com/~Kathiego/Pentacle_explanation.html). I found this interesting because Schneider incorporated several illustrations of fruit, including an apple, in his book and states: "look at the bottom of any familiar fruit to see the pentagonal remnant of its five-petaled flower. The flower of every edible fruit has five petals.... Before you eat an apple or pear, cut it in half at its equator to see the star pattern in which its seeds, the holders of life itself, are arranged."

 Jan ref 1068 have not read Schneider’s book but I probably should. The Roman V could also symbolize a tetrahedron which has 4 vertices and 1 center there is our 5 of the pentagram. Yes I think the Churches did try to turn the pentagram into an "evil" symbol just as they burned "healers" for being witches. Fear and intimidation has been their game and unfortunarely it has been somewhat successful in covering up Goddess energy.

Recall our fibonacci sequence: { 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 ..... }
Georgia's 2 and 3 are here leading to 5

The ether could also be called prana or manna.

The sword going into the tetrad is like a "prana tube" being opened in a person which is what the "Flower of Life" meditation does. It connects the Sun tetrahedron "above" with the Earth "tetrahedron" below in the body thru a tubeway.

The angles of the pentagram are 72 degrees and 5 x 72 = 360 degrees of circle
In what is called the Great White Brotherhood (no racial or sexual meaning implied)
there are 72 orders.

72 = 7+2 = 9

360 = 3+6+0 = 9

"Love"=18  = 1+8 = 9

Hi, I thought I'd peek in here. Crowley's magickal initials were V.V.V.V.V. I am also thinking of the recent gay pride event, where we flew the Rainbow Colors in our flag representing Unity through Diversity. I must say this site is a gold-mine. I hope that someone has down-loaded all of these discussions. There is definitely more than one piece of work here. Enochian chess is the cornerstone of Western Magick and lots of work on the discovery and exploring of the Astral Planes has been written about by Edward Kelly and John Dee. See you.

 Ron ... I reworded your phrase a little as I felt by doing so that I could give as a gift to You:

"Magick of Unity of Diversity is Love" = 388 (26 numerology)

For those of you who do not know 388 is harmonically related to Ron's Clear Light work. A beautiful Rainbow can be seen in very clear light because all of the colors harmoniously become One.

Crowley's magickal initials were V.V.V.V.V.

The V = 5 in Roman numerals          5 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 5 = 25
In Ron's 388 numerology (V =12) so V   V    V    V    V = 60

Thus combined 5 + 12 = 17             and all combined = 85

Kin 60 was the day mayan Pacal Votan was born he died on a Mirror day so we mirror the 85 into 58 and it was on kin 58 that he died. On Pacal's tomb lid a person is sitting inside a Skywalker symbol of Prophecy and is looking up into the Green Cosmic Tree called "Yax Che" listening to the cosmic song in the heartbeat of the Galactic Mother.

The color of the human Heart chakra is green like the green of the cosmic tree.

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Here is an interesting bit of history: Schneider says that periodically the consttruction of the pentagon was kept secret by various societies "who recognized its predominance in nature and its potent effect on human nature. They studied the Pentad's principles in geometry and nature, and its physchological effect, deeply enough to see in its application a knowledge that could be misused. Around 500 BC the pentagram star was the sign used by advanced members of th e Pythagorean society to recognize one another, and one thousand years later it was a guarded teaching tool only taught orally, not written about, by the crafts guilds who infused its symbolism into the design of Gothic cathedrals. It wasn't until 1509 when the monk Fra Luca Pacioli, inventor of double-entry bookkeeping and the mathematics teacher of Leonardo da Vinci, published De Divina Proportione, that the method of its construction and unique geometric properties was revealed to artists and philosophers in public". Wonder what the odds would be that one of the groups that knew the secrets of the Pentad were the Templars.

Jan in sacred geometry the pentagram forms the icosahedron and dodecahedron and these are believed in alchemy to be related to prana and ether from which everything is made.

"pentagram" = 41 ..... 4+1=5

Look back at post #1074 there are 4 colors repeated and 1 color in the center. Thus two pentagrams with a common  center form those words. The mandal colors Red-east, White-north, Blue-west, Yellow-south,  Green-heart center.

The 5th direction is the center the heart and I bet there is a Goddess in there waiting for us with plenty of manna and a big smile to go along with it. She just inspired me with this:

"Earth Goddess" = 53
"Goddess Heart" = 53

My spirit name given to me: "Foton Fonon" = 53

"Foton" = 25 = "Heart"
"Fonon" = 28 = "Goddess"

53 = 5 + 3 = 8 - or in word - Earth Goddess = Heart center + Orbit Earth = Orbit Uranus

53 = 17+ 1 + 17 + 1 + 17

Recall "Love" = 18 = (1 + 17) you will find 4 18's in the ( 17+ 1 + 17 + 1 + 17 )
and 4 x 18 = 72 which is the number of degrees in the angles of the pentagram.

Here's a little bit of math trivia I discovered the other day while on the trail of the Pentad: 5 and 6 are the only numbers that, when multiplied by themselves, result in a number that ends in itself! (5x5 = 25; 6x6 = 36!)

Mark, have you seen the pattern in the numbers that has been emerging in yours and G's posts? 2, 3, 5, 8 - all tied in to your reference to the Fibonnaci sequence; G started it off with post 1070 by mentioning the 2 and 3; you picked it up in 1072 with the tie-in to Fibonnaci, continued with your references to 58 in 1074, and in 1076 calculated the numerological value of Pentagram. Of course it equals 5! But it never occurred to me to sit down and figure it out! The 5 equals a 5, duh, Jan! Next thing you know, we'll be talking about Ricardo's 13 again - that's next in the sequence! Oh, BTW, I wasn't kidding when I asked how many pentagons are in the tree of life figure I posted about in 1069. I found 3, but I suspect there may be more. It shows the different chakra positions and their numerical equivalents, and traces all sorts of lines among the various numbers - most interesting. Almost reminds one of the range of moves various chess pieces may make on the chessboard.

Jan the 5 & 6 mulitply is cool and we notice in geometry
        these numbers 5 & 6  notice G's 2 & 3 again here

2D
square        = 4 vertices + 1 center = 5

pentagram = 5 vertices + 1 center = 6

3D
cube = 8 vertices + 1 center = 9

icosaedron = 12 vertices + 1 center =13
dodecahedron = 20 vertices + 1 center = 21
rhombic triacontahedron = 32 vertices + 1 center = 33

That rhombic is interesting just found out about it. Several things pop out at me. 32 + 32 = 64 chess squares or DNA codons. The 33 can be found in the Mayan 13 tones + 20 glyphs (13 +20 = 33)

Here is website with info on these geometries

Nice work, Jan and Mark. Thanks for the gifts. Crowley channels in the Book of the Law that the number for the Goddess is "56" or "Six and Fifty", and in fact he goes on to write "I am Nuit, an my word is six and fifty. Divide, add, multiply and understand."

50 divided by 6 = 8.33

50 + 6 = 56

50 x 6 = 300

I wonder what information anyone can come up with to help us understand?

Ron I will play a little here with Crowley's 5 & 6:

5 + 6 = 11:11 = 6 + 5

11:11 is what alot of people see on their clocks

56 + 65 = 121 and kin 121 is the entry kin into the Mayan 7th mystic column in the Mayan Tzolkin.

(5 x 6) + (6 x 5) = 60 in Mayan this would be 3 AHAUs or Sun glyphs 20+20+20

56 = 20 + 8 + 8 + 20

28 days is the cycle of the Moon formed from Sun + Star glyphs

65 = 20 + 20 + 20 + 5 we added the 5th central color of Green Heart of Child

But here is something relating to Chess
1 + 64 = 65 the Alpha DNA Codon + Omega DNA Codon = 65

6+5 = 11 and 5+6=11 the 11th Mayan glyph is Chuen carry power of Magick (Crowley)

5+6 + 6+5 = 22

Kin 22 in the Mayan Tzolkin is the Goddess Bolon Ik also known as White Solar Wind she carries the power of Spirit and is the guide to mayan Pacal Votan. Bolon means 9.

In the Dreamstar I recorded which is a harmonic overtone of the mayan system there is a glyph 22 and it is the Mirror glyph that carries power of Endlessness. On the Dreamstar stargate board glyph 22 relates to planet Uranus which is the home of Bolon Ik.

I guess you could say the Goddess of Bolon Ik is a special relation of mine and everyone.

Here is an addition to my last post #1080 about 5&6

The first and last day of the cycle according to the Mayan traditional count is "4-AHAU" occuring August 11, 3114bc and December 21, 2012ad and in the Dreamstar I recorded "4-AHAU" is kin 344 and not far away is "9-IK" also known as the White Goddess Bolon Ik and her kin number is 400 ( 20 x 20 ) and if we add Crowley's Magick of 56 we get this in Dreamstar harmonics:

                  4-AHAU      MAGICK       BOLON IK
                  kin 344    +     56       =     kin 400

Bolon Ik is the spirit guide to Pacal Votan who was born on "8-Ahau" and this is kin 25 in the Dreamstar - which has 17 tones x 25 glyphs for 425 kin. Look what happens when they get together : )

                 Pacal Votan           Bolon Ik
                 8-Ahau                    9-Ik
                   kin 25           +      kin 400      =    kin 425

Kin 425 is the Omega Kin in the Dreamstar known as  17-IMIX , 17-Dragon , Red Never-ending Dragon It has the tone 17 of Never-ending Love and the Dragon glyph power of Birth combined to create:

Birth in Never-ending Love

OOOoooooohhh! WOW! I knew there was something about the number 56. My significant other had a dream the other night. He was in this hotel and had created a diversion getting the attention of one of the maids who called out CODE 56! CODE 56!

BTW you all might be interested in this chess site

OOOOooooh Vickie, you unvailed a beautiful creation for all of us to share, Thank You.

How's your Latin? Manna translates to hand of woman, or Hand of the Goddess.

Now, look at a cannabis leaf. Do you see the Hand of the Goddess?

According to Harvard Medical School Cannabis is NOT toxic and Not addictive. Cannabis produces more protien per square acre then soy beans. Food for the masses.

If you want to hunt for some more MiV's, start with the people who backed the R&D (research and development) of the genetic engineered virus, custom made to kill off cannabis(kill off the Goddess, ring a bell). Art Bell devoted alot of air time trying to stop the release of this virus into the enviroment, Art is a good person. Thank You Art.

LOVE

G

May the Hand of The Goddess Always be with You.

And a goddess-filled wonderful evening to you all! Picking up where Isis left off re the "hand" of the perpetual goddess/god manifesting itself (inherently) in all living things, I refer you to Schneider's book at pps. 101, 108-9, and 118 (that's all I've read -- thus far!). The "leaf" is a "hand"; XENA EXERCISE: pump your arm (either arm) up into the air, hand fully extended! and reaching for the stars; this represents the "outstretched nature" of the human spirit (not to be confused with an "immortal soul"). More to follow...later.

The Pentagram's metamorphosis into a symbol of evil, from p. 99 of Schneider's book: "When the star is inverted it's called a Drudenfuss (German for 'witch's foot') and appears in magical ritual and witchcraft. It has been associaed with devils and demons since the rebel Egyptian god Set resisted spritual aspiration to become the adversary of his brother Osiris and nephew Horus. Set had many attributes associated with the modern image of a devil: horns, coarse red hair, hooves, a tail. He and his hordes resist truth, order, justice [and the American Way? LOL!] and righteousness. His forty-two attributes are actually symbols of the down-reaching elements of our own psyche that must be purified. The Egyptian 'underworld,' the duat, whose hieroglyph is a circle surrounded by a five-pointed star within a circle, is the mythical nighttime place where the 'perishable' stars go when they sink below the horizon at dusk. The duat recalls our own spiritual sleep from which we can awaken. The Egyptian star glyph without the circle signified either a nighttime star, a door, or a teaching, an intriguing combination of ideas in one glyph. The sun's inevitable birth into dawn and daylight (symbolizing our own spiritual arising) is resisted in the duat by hideous adveraries (illusions within us). In ancient Greece, the star was associated with Pan ('All'), who also had horns, red hair, hooves, and a tail, representing the lustful fertility of nature, which induces panic and pandemonium ('all the demons') in prim people. Later in Western culture Pan's sexuality became the great temptation of the modern devil and the star was inverted to imply the reverse of, and resistance to, its positive qualities of excellence and goodness."

Reminder:

We will be having a meeting at the Sahara Hotel in Las Vegas Nevada, August 13th, l999, 8 PM. For further information please E-Mail me or Jan for details. Remember more the merrier.

LOVE

G

May Manna Always be with You.

So...what happened to that great cow site?

(Been away for awhile!)

Lou

Hi Everyone: Interesting how this Goddess thing, Horus, Pan, and 56 all keeps going back to Crowley. Most people would say Crowley was the last person to be reviving Goddess Worship, but I think he did open the door.
I posted the New Goddess Chess site on my 388 Clear Light Calendar page. Why not replace the question mark with an exclaimation point. Really! You go girl.

Greetings, Ron.

I meant to post this on Friday and got sidetracked. 6/50 = 0.12. Hmmmmm, 0, 1, 2...

Don't know jack squat about Crowley but I have been given to believe that a lot of people have mighty negative feelings about him! Wonder why...

 Ron I agree Crowley obviously understood the value of the Goddess, however, he also understood
balance and being true to yourself. Look at cards ATU 5, 7, 21 and notice the positions of the four
beasts of Revelation especially look at the Eagle and Men and note in Mayan Men is the Eagle glyph.
This Eagle glyph has power of Vision, its color is Blue thus has energy of transformation and Magick.
In the 17:25 Dreamstar I recorded this Men glyph is glyph number 18. The words "Love"
and "Chess" = 18.

Lets see what number has to tell us about Crowley:

"Aliester Crowley" = 73  and 73 is the mirror of 37 = "Black Madonna"

18 + 37 + 18 = 73

In the Dreamstar the 17th tone is the "Tone of Never-ending Love" added to the 56 Magick is:

17 + 56 = 73

I seem to have determined a major spiritual guide behind my Dreamstar work was a Mayan Warrior
Priestess named Nine Monkey or "Bolon Chuen" and it is the Monkey glyph that carries the power of Magick. Nine Monkey was a ruler and sat on the Jaguar throne. It was written when she returned that the "morning star" would also return. The very heart center of the Dreamstar tzolkin I recorded is tone 9 and glyph 13 which is "Nine Monkey" she has returned and the morning Star of Christ is
preparing for birth in our skys as prophesized by St John in The Revelation.

"Nine Monkey" = 53
"Foton Fonon" = 53 (spirit name gifted to me)

(5+3) x (5+3) = 8x8 = 64 chessboard squares

6+4 = 10 and glyph 10 in the Dreamstar is "Green Joy" its symbol is the Cross

In my last post I mentioned the Mayan Priestess Nine Monkey and this reminded me of an email I received a while back about a Mayan leader and she was named Temple Doors. I did an internet search on "Temple Doors" and found a Crowley connection

website link: http://www.civilization.ca/membrs/civiliz/egypt/egca15e.html#page

"The Great Sphinx at Giza, near Cairo, is probably the most famous sculpture in the world. With a lion’s body and a human head, it represents Ra-Horakhty, a form of the powerful sun god, and is the incarnation of royal power and the protector of the temple doors."

"Nine Monkey" = 53
"Temple's doors" = 53
"Foton Fonon" = 53
"Ra-Horakhty" = 53

The Great Aten The God and Disk of the Sun
 
  

Vickie,

Jan suggested that I gather together graphics relating to the Weave and work with you to put them all together.

I like this idea very much, in fact, I thought it would be great for any of us, Weavers, to gather graphics and send them to Vickie or Jan, that way we all can contribute to the Weave. So, if any of you come apon good graphics please share them with us.

Bon Nuit

LOVE

G

May the Hand of the Goddess Always be with You.

Georgia,

Perhaps Vickie or Jan can lets us know what graphics they are looking for that way we can keep an eye out for what is needed. I think they did a really neat job on the Chess website. Much thanks to All of their hard work!

May the Song of the Galactic Mother be in Your Heart

Hi everyone, Great idea! Things we could use... Anything chess. GRAPHICS! Chess pieces, related artifacts or anything you think is relevant. It will make things a lot more interesting. Oh I AM having fun. {{Getting out my Crayons...}}

Greetings, darlings!

Between commercials during "XENA WARRIOR PRINCESS" (LOL!)- well, she IS my namesake, afterall! Here's the beginning of an extract from a most interesting article by Pavlov (Pavlev) Bidev circa 1947 (not published until 1951 in the December '51-January '52 Volume of "MAIL CHESS, Beograd", under title of "New Investigations about Chess Origin[s] (sic)". More later!

Ahem! XENA! (Aaaaaayyyyyyyeeeeeeiiiiiiaahhhh!) is over (for the nonce) and I am once again {more or less) back to myself: sedate, calm, "seditty" [oooooohhhh, going way back to the early '70's for the definition of THAT term!], etc. etc. etc.

To continue with Bidev's article: Also published (per author) in the "1979 British Chess Magazine".

Bidev exchanged "words" with HJRMurray! To quote: "It has been read by H.J.R.Murray who rejected my explanation of the elemental symbolism of chess pieces with the following phrase: 'Having an adequate reason of Indian evidence/Bana/, I am not disposed to propound an alternative factor, bearing in mind "Occam's Razor"'. The last has said: "Essentia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem." (I will leave my private opinions about Murray out of this discussion; he is the "god" of "chess history", after all! - to steal a term from a friend, "YIKES"!). [Note: I leave translations of "foreign quotes" strictly to the discretion of our fair readers].

Does "relative antiquity" lend credence to a homme, no matter how much heretofore respected by "chess historians", in light of present-day discoveries and view-points? I leave my dear readers to decide that question for themselves (never say that JanXena does not learn her lessons -(relatively speaking...)

The circa 1947(?) article by Bidev starts out by proposing the following premise: That the actual meaning of "chaturanga" -- as opposed to the literal meaning (that being "four limbed; four-armed; four-membered", and relating thus to the Indian Army) -- actually relates to the most fundamental ancient elements of (1) earth (2) water (3) air (wind) (4) fire, and (5) "ether" and therefore, does not, in fact, represent a "militaristic game" at all, but is something much more fundamental and all-encompassing of the universal (macrocosm) and human (microcosm) condition!!!!! (I ask our readers to recall to mind all related posts on the PENTAD and TETRAD, as well as those posts commenting on the ancients' view of the four elements [plus the ever-present life-giving force of the Monad]); Bidev's premise is thus that The Game does not, in fact, represent a "militaristic game" at all, but is something much more fundamental and all-encompassing of the universal (macrocosm) and human (microcosm) condition!!!!!

Egad!!!!

Have I whet your appetites, hmmmmm???

Enough for tonight...

Good morning, all! I see I did a "repeat" line in that last post - eek! By the way, I got the Bidev article from Gerhard Josten. Extracting more info: Bidev asserted that chess as created and played by the Hindus was a bi-level game and its true nature could only be appreciated by those initiated into the secret mysteries of its "hidden side". On the surface, it appears to be a war game comprised of various elements of the Indian army - elepants, horses, chariots, and foot-soldiers, together with the King and Minister or Vizier. In reality, the adept appreciated the following symbolism: ratha (chariot) = earth (prthivi), ashwa (horse) = water (apas), hastin (elephant) = wind or air (vayu), mantrin (wise man-vizier) = fire (agni), rajan (king) = ether (akasha). [Note how this symbolism is incorporated into the Pentagram we've recently been discussing]. What's more, Bidev said that the actual moves of the various pieces incorporate symbolism as well. I will post about that later.

 Jan,

Monad  = 1
Tretrad = 4
Pentad = 5

1+4+5 = 10 which is the 1 & 0 or the 1 & 9 notice thru the 1 Monad we now have
the 0 thru 9 and notice the 4 & 5 are in the center between 0 and 9.

0

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

The center 4 + 5 = 9 and the ends 0 + 9 = 9 and likewise each pair of the same color
will sum to 9 the number of completion and we could also draw it this way:

	1				8
2	4	0		7	5	9
	3				6

Then they maybe combined into a Monad of Nine squares and note
that each square reduces to a 9 and 5x9=45 the 4&5 of the Tetrad&Pentad

	1 8
2 7	4 5	0 9
	3 6

Mark, I will have some numbers for you to look at as I post my way through Bidev's article. Right now, I want to offer the following quote from p. 80:

"Chess has two faces: the egsoteric one, which is available only to the outside world and profane science, and the esoteric one, which can be understood by the (sic) dedicated to the secret science of the Indians. There are two possible interpretations of the chess game: the first one is the traditional and popular explanation that chess is a nice martial game and nothing else; it has become the communis opinio of the whole human race and of the highest representatives of science. It is difficult to correct the errors. Goethe once said that the greatest enemies of new truths were the old errors. I am now in the position of the man who with a granule of sand hits at a granitic rock. Nevertheless, I think the truth is on my side and the moment of triumph shall come. The new interpretation that I give is the true face of chess game, the clue of its secret of many centuries. The boyish tale tht chess is a martial game represents but the false face of chess game, its backside."

Er, perhaps Mr. Bidev wasn't aware of the colloquial meaning for the term "backside". LOL! More later.

Mark Borcherding - 06:10am Jul 16, 1999 MST (#1100 of 1107)
dare to dream upon your own star

Jan ... you did give me a number page 80. Using the fibonacci sequence numbers only:

80 = 55 + 13 + 5 + 3 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 0

Using the binary sequence numbers only we see:

80 = 64 + 16

Hmmm.. interesting 64 is chessboard square count and 80 = (8x8) + (8+8) using the binary numbers.

Notice 5+5=10 and 6+4=10 also 55 + 9 = 64

If we combine the binary and fibonacci then we get 80 + 80 = 160 and it is kin 160 in the mayan tzolkin that is called "4 Ahau" or "Four Flower" that ends this cycle of time on Dec 21, 2012 and also began it on Aug 11, 3014bc.

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